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A New Jersey public school teacher is in hot water after writing anti-gay comments on her personal Facebook page. Viki Knox, who teaches special education classes at Union High School, wrote that “homosexuality is a perverted spirit that has existed from the beginning of creation” and that it “breeds like cancer.” She also posted – and criticized – a photo of a school display that recognizes October as Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender History month.

Knox’s Facebook page has been removed, but reports say that subsequent posts defend her views and refer to God and Christianity. And although she claims to have friends and loved ones who are gay, she believes  the way they live goes “against the nature and character of God.” Oh, and that high school is “not the setting to promote, encourage, support and foster homosexuality,” according to the New York Times.

This is just plain sad. Look, people are entitled to their own point of view and certainly to their own religious beliefs. But when you’re a teacher and in a position of authority, you should be acting as a role model. Posting homophobic remarks on your Facebook page – or any public forum, for that matter – is wrong. It’s actually despicable, and I’d be horrified to know that my own child’s teacher felt this way (whether it was made public or not).

The really sad part is that Knox and her remarks are protected by the First Amendment. Bust Edward Barocas, legal director of the American Civil Liberties Union in New Jersey, explained in a statement, “Because her postings raised questions about her conduct within the school, the school district can and should investigate whether she is performing her job in accordance with the school policies and the state’s Law Against Discrimination.”

We can only hope that Knox, 49, is dismissed from the school immediately. There is no excuse for such behavior, not ever and especially not now, when bullying is at an all-time high. In fact, a former member of the Union Township Committee questioned her ability to enforce the state’s tough new anti-bulling law. “Teachers are the forefront of that, enforcing that,” John Paragano, a lawyer, told the New York Times. “My concern is that if this teacher has these feelings, is she going to call out the bullying of a gay, lesbian and transgender person?”

I couldn’t agree more. Hate and intolerance have no place in a classroom, and this woman has no right to teach. Period.

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42 Comments

  1. Mia

    October 14, 2011 at 12:59 pm

    I hate it when people call someone “homophobic” just because they don’t agree with homosexuality. Right up there with “bigot.”

    As for your comment, “The really sad part is that Knox and her remarks are protected by the First Amendment.” ..Yes, it must really suck knowing that people can have beliefs that differ from yours and still be protected.

    That’s what I “love” about this country.. everyone wants free speech, unless it differs from what they believe in. You only have free speech if you agree with the majority. God forbid we have minds and thoughts of our own, and may heaven save your soul if you dare to talk about them in front of people and risk being called a bigot or homophobe.

    • Lex

      October 14, 2011 at 3:08 pm

      She is entitled to say whatever she wants. She is not entitled to keep her job after spewing hate speech in public.

      PS: Mia, when your beliefs cause you to hate people because of who they love, then yes, you are a bigot.

    • Lauren

      October 14, 2011 at 3:41 pm

      If I “don’t agree with” Jewish people, I’m anti-semetic. If I “don’t agree with” black people, I’m racist. That’s how it works. LGBT people aren’t something you can just “have a different opinion on” without being a bigot; they aren’t different tastes in style or books to be reviewed, they are human beings. Having an opinion that one group of people is superior or more deserving of civil rights than another is bigoted and shouldn’t be tolerated in anyone, let alone being posted publicly by a teacher, someone responsible for teaching our children.

      You say “God forbid we have minds and thoughts of our own”, well God forbid we expect everyone to recognize each other as equals and respect one another, especially people in important and powerful positions like teachers.

  2. Jen

    October 15, 2011 at 4:51 pm

    I was honestly going to be on the teacher’s side in this at first. While I definitely disagree with her viewpoint (and think she’s a bad person for the things she’s said) I do agree with her First Amendment rights to say it and since it’s her PRIVATE facebook page I don’t think she should be punished. This is like the teacher in Florida who had someone send her sex tape to school administrators, and I disagreed with her dismissal.

    However, this woman went further. She made it clear that she intended to allow her personal, private feelings to effect her behavior in the school. And she posted pictures from the school and spoke in favor of discrimination. That is taking her comments out of the private sector and she has, by admitting she is not treating her students all the same, proven that she is not capable of performing her job. Fire her!

  3. Debra J.M. Smith

    October 15, 2011 at 11:36 pm

    Wow!

    A Christian lady will not go along with homosexuality!

    She calls it a sin and talks about what God says about sin!

    What a shock! I mean, a Christian woman should be embracing sin! Loving sin! Participating in sin! Promoting sin! She should be out in the streets screaming for homosexuality, not posting things on a facebook page against homosexuality! What the heck is wrong with that Christian woman!!! Where did that school district go wrong??? Where did their indoctrination talks fail them with her???

    Fire her! Fire her! Christians don’t have free speech. Well, if they do have free speech, they can still be fired for their free speech!! Right? Well of course that is right!

    Fire her! Fire her! Christians don’t have the right to practice their faith-belief! Well, if they do have the right to practice their faith-belief, they can still be fired for practicing their faith-belief! Right? Well of course that is right!

    And what about all of those people who say they are Christian and embrace homosexuality? –She should be a good Christian like they are!!! –Her brand of Christianity needs to be outlawed! Would JESUS SAY HOMOSEXUALITY IS WRONG???? ehem… Well, Jesus never directly said it. Okay okay, His word says it, actually describes it in Romans, chapter one and tells how bad and wrong it is. BUT BUT BUT, other people who go to church ignore that scripture and even claim it means something else! –SO SHOULD SHE!

    WE WILL TELL CHRISTIANS HOW TO BE CHRISTIAN!!! –And if they don’t be OUR brand of Christian, then we will get them fired. They can lose their homes, go hungry, and well, you know what comes next! –But we are loving, loving, LOVING LOVING –DOG GONE LOVING PEOPLE!!!! …unlike her!

    It is all for homosexuality! Fight for homosexuality! Defend homosexuality! Deny your GOD for homosexuality! Build a temple for homosexuality!!! And bow before homosexuality!!!

    Homosexuality comes before anyone and anything and before GOD!!! If you don’t put homosexuality before all else, then you will not be able to work, or eat, or buy, or sell!

    Sure sounds like the beast to me.

    Hey! Good luck with that!

    Debra J.M. Smith
    “Informing Christians” Journalist

    • Jen

      October 16, 2011 at 12:33 am

      Wow. Besides your stunning lack of writing skills you also totally miss the point. I don’t give a fuck what “Christianity” says about homosexuality (but you might want to stop giving so much credence to a sadist who spent the early years of his life torturing Christians and the later years torturing pagans). I do give a fuck when a teacher is violating her duty to protect her students.

      You don’t like homosexuals, fine. And also, fuck you. You are entitled to your opinion and I am entitled to think of you as a hateful, ignorant bigot. Christians also spent a decent number of years burning Protestants at the stake and murdering, so you probably should off your high horse. Either way, it doesn’t really matter. A teacher who openly declares war on a population of students doesn’t belong in the school district. If you can’t do your job without prejudice you lose your job. Free speech doesn’t mean you get to be a douchebag bigot and keep your job, it means

    • Jen

      October 16, 2011 at 12:35 am

      the government can’t jail you. Please, I’m begging, get an education. You are an embarrassment.

    • Debra J.M. Smith

      October 16, 2011 at 1:26 pm

      It is very sad that we cannot all be as loving, kind, gentle, and educated as Jen.

      It is no wonder that people are calling for this teacher to be fired. Perhaps she should take some notes from Jen, on how to be a better and more productive person in society. –I know I sure am!

      Debra…

    • Jen

      October 16, 2011 at 1:49 pm

      Look, you can have your opinion. Enjoy. But please stop trying to pretend that your viewpoint is anything other than bigoted and hateful. I don’t try and pretend I’m loving or gentle or kind where bigots are involved. I hate bigots because they make the world a worse place for my child to grow up. I’ll fight tooth and nail for your right to say whatever stupid, ignorant nonsense you want, but I draw the line at allowing a teacher to openly acknowledge her hatred for a particular sector of the student body and her intentions to treat them differently.
      If a teacher posted something about how she disagreed with Christianity and intended to preach her hatred in school and treat Christian kids with disdain, I’d still be calling for her to be fired. It doesn’t matter what your prejudice is, you leave it at the door when you are a teacher dealing with kids. You lose your free speech rights when you start infringing on the well being of the students in your care.

      And for the love of god, please stop pretending that your version of Christianity is a loving, peaceful, good and kind one. If it was you’d be too busy being a good person in the world to post nasty comments about teenagers on the internet.

    • Debra J.M. Smith

      October 16, 2011 at 4:35 pm

      No no no, Jen. I want to be just like you.

    • Jen

      October 16, 2011 at 7:13 pm

      Then you would have to stop being a bigot and stop applauding the “right” for a teacher to openly harass a group of students. I don’t think you can do that, which makes me sad. I sincerely wish people like you and this teacher would actually take a moment to realize the kind of hate you are spreading. Children are DYING because of this hatred and you respond by applauding a teacher for being a nasty bully and behave like one yourself.

      And, for the LOVE OF CHRIST: Free Speech does not mean you get to say whatever the hell you want without ever having any consequences. It means the government won’t go around arresting you. That’s it. If you walked into my workplace and I decided to curse you out I would lose my job (and rightly so). If I worked for the department of ed and posted a bunch of racist comments about the school I worked for and the student organizations there, I’d be fired too and I’m pretty sure you wouldn’t be leaping to defend the racist’s view point. I love free speech, I would fight to the death rather than see you arrested for preaching “Christianity”, but I’ll be damned if I would let someone so hateful anywhere near children, our schools already have enough issues.

    • Debra J.M. Smith

      October 16, 2011 at 10:36 pm

      By all means, Jen, keep your child away from people like me and that school teacher. Because no matter how much you wish we could be like you, we never will be. We love truth, honor, decency, and dignity. And we love God.

      Make sure your child is raised with people like you; people who embrace fornication, and people who are haters of God and haters of His followers. Have your child only be around people who are your brand of bigot, haters of all that is good and of the Lord, people who would wish evil on a woman who dared to walk out her convictions, publicly.

      And raise your child to push anyone who is a true Christian, devout to the word of God, into the closet. Make sure you teach him/her to hate that type of person, as you expressed in your earlier comment to me.

      And when all is said and done, teach your child to bully and cuss out those who disagree with your child. Then your child will be just like you.

      Debra…

    • Jen

      October 17, 2011 at 6:47 am

      Right. Forgot I can’t argue with a Christian because despite being the majority in the country you guys are so persecuted. I feel sorry for you and your twisted little mind.

    • Debra J.M. Smith

      October 17, 2011 at 1:49 pm

      Now, don’t cut yourself short, Jen. You have more than argued with a Christian. With your very first comment to me, you crossed right over to that which you claim to hate. –Actually, you are quite good at fighting and hating and being a bigot and a bully. By your standards, you are what you hate.

  4. Lisa

    October 18, 2011 at 10:32 am

    With free speech comes great responsibility. The messages that this teacher expressed were her own and she had the right to say what she believes, but I ask you, Where do personal beliefs end and professionalism begin. As a teacher, her job is to be a role model to her students. To prepare them for what is out there, and hate shouldn’t be one of them! Rallying up the troops to “draw battle lines” against homosexuals just because of a bulletin board promoting to students that it was ok to be yourself is just appalling. As parents , we have the right to know what’s being taught in our classroom, and a teacher who “teaches and preaches her beliefs” is very concerning!

    • Jen

      October 18, 2011 at 10:39 am

      Nope. These poor, marginalized “Christians” think Free Speech means they get to teach hate and openly bully teenagers and they are REALLY good at painting themselves as martyrs if you suggest that someone who can’t keep their hatred out of their lesson plans doesn’t belong in the public school system.

  5. Debra J.M. Smith

    October 18, 2011 at 1:44 pm

    Some people are saying that the teacher’s words against homosexuality are hateful. What measuring tool are they measuring this on? By whose or what standards do they come by this assessment of the teacher’s words?

    The teacher goes by the bible. The bible says that homosexuals are “haters of God,” in Romans, chapter one. This chapter describes homosexuals as awful people. So by whatever standards that people are judging this teacher by, they would judge the bible to be hateful, as well.

    I have also seen people talk about this teacher’s morals, saying she does not have good morals, that she would have spoken against homosexuality on her facebook page. Again, by what standards are her morals being measured by?

    According to the bible, this teacher is a loving person, speaking the truth. The bible, which describes homosexuals as doing wickedly bad things, tells those of us who follow the Lord, to have nothing to do with evil works of darkness, but rather to expose them. The bible also tells us to love God first and then others. The bible also tells us to do all things unto the Lord, this would include a job. –The teacher was practicing her faith-belief.

    The U.S. Constitution says that congress shall make no law that would prohibit the practice of a person’s faith-belief (religion.) The U.S. Constitution also says that states cannot make or enforce any law that would abridge us from our rights as American citizens. –Public schools are ran by the states. Hence they cannot make or enforce any law that would prohibit this teacher from publicly practicing her faith-belief.

    So from I see, the teacher measured her comments by the Bible. And her actions are supported by both the Bible and the U.S. Constitution. Whereas those who claim her words are hateful, have nothing to measure them by. Nor do they have anything that supports their demands to have her fired. They are the harmful haters and bigots that they claim her to be.

    My earlier post showed my thoughts on this in a sarcastic way, expressing how crazy it is that people would expect less from a devout Christian. It also showed how truly hateful and bigoted, the real hateful bigots are. But some are just too hateful against devout Christians and against God, to get it.

    I have to wonder if the teacher had been a Muslim and wrote on her Facebook page what Islam teaches against homosexuality, if anyone would be calling for her to be fired. Something tells me things would be very different.

    Debra…
    “Informing Christians” Journalist

  6. Lisa

    October 18, 2011 at 2:24 pm

    So let me get this straight now….If I’m Jewish and I had you for a teacher in a public school, by what you just said, it would be ok to preach your beliefs even though that is not of my faith??? There are schools that ppl choose to put their children in that conform to their beliefs..Now I believe that the Pledge of Alligance should be said “Under God” as it states, but quoting scripture, it is not a place for public school. It never has been.

    Union High School’s misson statement states and I quote “Union High School (UHS) is a large, public institution that serves a culturally and economically diverse community. To meet the myriad needs of such a community, and to fulfill its mission, UHS provides an environment that is not only conducive to learning, but also encourages diverse and creative thinking and interaction among the faculty and students.” It goes on to state “Embrace diversity through a purposeful effort to positively engage all individuals within the school or in a community setting regardless of age, race, color, creed, ethnicity, mental or physical disability, religion, gender, sexual orientation, nationality, socioeconomic status, or family makeup in a harmonious, respectful, and supportive manner”
    This woman knew what Union school system stood for when she was hired. She not only disrespected those who are different than her, but she disrespected and slammed her employers who hired her to do a job. This school may be run by the state but it is the tax payers who pay for their salaries.

    • Debra J.M. Smith

      October 18, 2011 at 4:20 pm

      The teacher was not teaching her faith-beliefs in the classroom. She posted her faith-beliefs publicly on her facebook page.

      We are not a nation that forces people into the closet with their faith-beliefs. We have a legal right to be public with our faith-beliefs.

      And our states are not to have or enforce any law that abridges us from practicing our faith.

      It is against this woman’s faith to go along with homosexuality. It would be like forcing a Muslim to eat bacon on the school BLT day in the lunch room. The school should not be trying to force Christians to go along with homosexuality, when it goes against their faith to do.

      The teacher has a legal right to not go along with homosexuality at her job, because her job is ran by the state. And she has a right to “speak” out against the forcing of such on her and others like her. –This is one of the main issues of what free speech is all about, not silencing those with a grievance.

      If you choose to send your child to a public school, then don’t be shocked that he/she might have a Christian teacher, who might just not go along with something you like. If you don’t like having just any teacher for your child, then pull your child out of public school.

      I home schooled both of my daughters, because I found public schools to be abusive in more ways than one, and I did not want heathens teaching my children. In other words, I live what I talk.

      Debra…

  7. Lisa

    October 18, 2011 at 6:19 pm

    The woman said “I teach what I preach” So how would you like to take that.

    This is a Code Of Conduct issue, not a free speech issue or even a religious issue.

    This is a public teacher, being paid by tax payer money, posting personal comments on a public stage (Facebook is a public stage no matter how privacy settings are made. It is just the fact of the social world we now live in). By choosing to be a public teacher, Knox has a Code of Conduct that must be followed no matter what the personal feelings may be. Knox did not follow this Code as a public teacher. For that reason, and that reason alone, proper school board action should be taken.

    Knox should teach at a private school where the Code of Conduct would be different

    http://www.state.nj.us/education/profdev/profstand/standards.pdf

    • Debra J.M. Smith

      October 18, 2011 at 6:51 pm

      I don’t care what you call it. If it infringes on her freedom of speech, which means she can publicly speak her beliefs, as in, she does not have to hide her beliefs, then it is not to be enforced.

      The school is a public school, ran by the state. The state cannot legally infringe on that teacher’s free speech.

    • Jen

      October 18, 2011 at 7:31 pm

      Debra: I’m sorry, but you have absolutely NO IDEA what the law says, huh? Also, the school is RUN by the state (not ran).

      Now: Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Religion as guaranteed by the United States Constitution means that the government cannot jail you or fine you for practicing your faith or speaking your mind. It DOES NOT guarantee that you can say whatever you want wherever you want and not face consequences. The Supreme Court ruled long ago that public schools do not fall under as strict a reading of the First Amendment. Schools have every right to discipline their students and staff for ANY behavior or speech that they feel is disruptive to the learning environment or is going to negatively effect a student’s learning experience. That is why schools can and do punish kids for everything from cursing to lewd speech (all of which is typically protected under First Amendment guidelines).

      Further, employers (whether public or private) have the RIGHT to set certain codes of conduct that they expect their employees to follow. NJ just enacted a fairly strict anti-bullying law (as well as the code linked above) that makes this teacher’s behavior a CLEAR violation of an agreement she made when she accepted employment with the NJ Board of Education.

      You can argue your belief system all you want, you can try and pretend that bullying kids is just the “Christian” way, but you CAN’T change the laws of the United States of America and you are flat out wrong about the sorts of protections those laws encompass.

    • Debra J.M. Smith

      October 18, 2011 at 10:14 pm

      14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, 1st paragraph, 2nd sentence:

      “No state shall make or enforce any law, which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States;”

    • pa

      October 19, 2011 at 12:51 am

      shut up

    • pa

      October 19, 2011 at 12:57 am

      Debra Smith i agree with you. Jen & Lisa just give my ears a break with all your pathetic excuses.

    • Debra J.M. Smith

      October 19, 2011 at 1:47 am

      Thank you, Pa. I have been feeling quite alone here.

      :o)

    • Jen

      October 19, 2011 at 9:53 am

      Ok, Debra, I’m going to try one more time to explain this to you. I honestly can’t tell if you are simply willfully ignorant or seriously lacking in comprehension skills, but either way I’ll lay it out as simply as possible:

      The First Amendment protects us from the government forcibly preventing us from practicing religion, forcibly compelling us to practice religion and jailing us for speech. The Fourteenth Amendment (or at least the clauses relevant to this discussion) makes arbitrary discrimination illegal–like, say, refusing to hire someone because they are Christian or gay or black. HOWEVER, none of this actually applies in this situation. This woman’s job is not at risk because of her religion or even her religious beliefs, but because of actions she willfully engaged in that directly violate behavior code.

      Employers (even employers who are government entities) have a right to create certain codes of conduct to which their employees are expected to adhere. My parents both worked for many years in public hospitals and had tons of rules they had to follow. Dress codes, speech codes and behavioral codes are all accepted forms of workplace regulation whether you work for the government or a private citizen. Obviously, there must be justification for these rules, but that’s not all that hard to prove in this case. The rights of schools to police their students and staff and hold them to certain standards has been reinforced by the Supreme Court over and over again. In Tinker v. Des Moines, which is arguably the most notable school speech case, the court pretty clearly states that while teachers and students maintain their right to free speech, the school can take disciplinary action if it reasonably feels that such speech is detrimental to the learning environment and educational rights of other students.

      In the case of this teacher she shows a clear determination to flout the preset school code and create an atmosphere of inequality in her classroom. It was her decision to bring the school system into the picture by posting directly about the school she worked for. If she had simply posted her hate filled rhetoric on Facebook without directly commenting on or including pictures of school sponsored clubs and events she WOULD have been engaging in constitutionally protected speech. However, when she made the decision to directly reference her employer she violated a preset code of ethics and entered into the school’s dominion, making any disciplinary action she receives from them totally appropriate and constitutionally sound.

    • Debra J.M. Smith

      October 19, 2011 at 7:32 pm

      Jen,

      1st Amendment – “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.”

      This says exactly what it means: Congress shall not make a law that “abridges” the freedom of speech.

      And…

      14th Amendment – “No state shall make or enforce any law, which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States;”

      This says exactly what it means: The states cannot make or enforce any law that abridges us from our privileges of the United States, which would include freedom of speech.

    • Debra J.M. Smith

      October 19, 2011 at 7:36 pm

      Jen,

      1st Amendment – “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.”

      This says exactly what it means: Congress shall not make a law that “abridges” the freedom of speech.

      And…

      14th Amendment – “No state shall make or enforce any law, which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States;”

      This says exactly what it means: The states cannot make or enforce any law that abridges us from our privileges of the United States, which would include freedom of speech.

      NOTE: Notice that nothing in those amendments states that laws can be made that infringe on our freedom of speech, but they just won’t throw us in jail. You are way off on this, Jen.

    • Jen

      October 19, 2011 at 7:43 pm

      Alright. I’m done. You are literally too stupid for words. Enjoy your life of ignorance, at least your lack of logical skills and basic understanding explains ALOT about your points of view regarding GLBT.

    • Debra J.M. Smith

      October 19, 2011 at 7:58 pm

      Jen,

      You have stayed true to your kind.

      Debra…

  8. Lisa

    October 20, 2011 at 12:21 am

    Yes Jen, Do what Debra says. It will be interesting to see what Debra has to say when I tell her that 2 students stepped forward last night at the BOE meeting and disclosed that the teacher not only voiced her beliefs of the LGBT community on facebook but in the classroom as well. Hmmmmmmm, Tell me Debra, Is that protected too???

    • Jen

      October 20, 2011 at 7:55 am

      @Lisa: She thinks it is. She has exactly no conception of what is protected via the Constitution and I am done trying to explain to her. I’ve found that with a lot of anti-gay bigots they seem to think they can say anything they want, wherever they choose and just yell “First Amendment” and no one can do anything about it.

    • Debra J.M. Smith

      October 20, 2011 at 2:47 pm

      Technically, yes it is protected, Lisa.

      You women are perfect examples of evil being called good and good being called evil.

      I pity you both on judgment day.

      Homosexuality is bad. And sadly, it has come to the point where speaking that which is done between homosexuals in private, is allowed to be talked about in schools in a positive way, but not in a negative way. –That says a lot, when adults defend perverting the minds of children.

      Good luck with that on judgment day.

      Debra…

    • Jen

      October 20, 2011 at 4:06 pm

      Uhoh, Lisa, we better look out. Deb not only knows how to interpret the Constitution better than the guys who wrote it (or the men and women who spent their lives studying it), she also speaks for the divine. It’s this sort of intelligence and logical reasoning that makes this world such a wonderful place to live. Boy, I sure hope all those nasty homosexual teenagers get the hint that Debra thinks they are EVIL and kill themselves. After all, encouraging self hatred and systematically bullying the weak is the Christian thing to do.

    • Debra J.M. Smith

      October 20, 2011 at 4:53 pm

      If the blood of dead homosexual teens is on anybody’s hands, it is on the hands of those who have encouraged them to that which goes against their own conscience. –People do not kill themselves over something that they really believe is good.

      I leave you with that to think on.

      Signing off this thread,
      Debra…

    • Jen

      October 20, 2011 at 5:40 pm

      I’m really glad Debra was on this thread. It gave us all a chance to see the staggering heartlessness, cruelty, bigotry and hatred that so many of our most vulnerable teens face daily. Even if this teacher is rightly punished for her unprofessional behavior, there are still so many in this world who will callously dismiss the death of young people and who openly encourage bullying. That they do all this while claiming to speak for some sort of divine power makes their brand of bigotry even more dangerous, since there are many who will “take things on faith” that they would otherwise find repugnant. Unfortunately, those who subscribe to this sort of spiritual justification of hatred are the same people who will 1)turn on their own children and drive them to their deaths and/or 2)teach their children to forsake reason and kindness for blind obedience and ignorance.

      I have a lot of hope for the world, since it seems that we are progressing away from people like Debra. But, just as with racism and sexism and all the other isms there will always be hateful people who revel in their own bigotry and twisted logic. Hopefully we are coming to a time when their voices are not the ones GLBT hear in their ears and hearts.

  9. Lisa

    October 20, 2011 at 9:40 pm

    I agree with you 100% Jen!

    Debra, I am a Roman Catholic…my faith is something that I hold very dear and I know that the Holy Spirit guides me through all that I do. Thus saying that… I don’t slam it down other ppl’s throats because I know that everyone does not share the same belief that I do. I do my best in raising my children to teach them that God put us on this earth to love each other. To work together. To treat each other with kindness and respect in God’s name and for that I know my hands are clean and not bloodshed at the end of the day and on Judgement day when I meet St. Peter at the gates, I can honestly say that I did my best to love and respect every person that passed by me. I doubt if I can say the same for you

    • DebraJMSmith

      January 27, 2014 at 2:56 pm

      It does not shock me, Lisa, that you are a Roman Catholic and feel as you do. –I am a Protestant born again Biblical Christian.

  10. Matt

    June 21, 2012 at 8:00 pm

    To you women who are equality supporters thank you. You good words are words of peace rather than the terror, abuse, and hate many of us have had to listen to our whole lives.

    Selective religious text followers are idiots when arguing anti gay rhetoric.

    To all you antigay women commenting and encouraging hate… Based out off your own religious texts, shut up! Your a woman and should remain quiet until your husband says speak. Apply that religious doctrine to your holy attitude. Also, if you were not a virgin on your wedding day why aren’t you dead the book says you should be. I hope all of your clothes are one type of material because if they are mixed fibers why aren’t you dead? I don’t want you to be dead it is just that the relious text you feel so strongly about following says you should be. Wearing cotton/spandex is as hated by god as gays as it says so on the same page. Please tell me you burn your sheets each month as your menses is considered dirty and I certainly hope that you aren’t staying in the same building with anybody while you menstrate that’s would be bad too, for you.

    As hateful as you are being toward others not like you, be careful because once your nazi-like crusade has eradicated thegbt community women are an even bigger target on the biblical hate and kill list.

    Btw if we go biblical, let us remember women were the first to goad man into wrong choices (the apple). Why should you be heard now when you screwed it all up to start with.

    • Debra J.M. Smith

      June 21, 2012 at 8:45 pm

      Fool! –You do not know the first thing about the Bible, Matt.

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