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Potty-Mouth Teacher Has Her F-Bomb Tirade Go Viral After She Argues With Student

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tumblr teacherTeachers have one of the hardest jobs in the world. They work long hours, have to deal with all of our bratty kids, and aren’t compensated fairly for the amount of work they do. Couple this with a teacher who was all ready having a bad day due to medical issues and work-related stress and it sort of makes sense why this teacher went on a swear-ridden tirade at one of her students, after they had an argument about the correct use of “African-American.” First, you can listen to her F-bombs here, and yeah, NSFW.

So what caused this teacher to go off like that? According to The Daily Breeze, the teacher, who works at Narbonne High in Harbor City, was being heckled by a student in her 12th grade class over the correct use of the description “African-American.” The teacher said it isn’t always a correct term to use, and that “You’re an American first,” she added that her forebears were Italian, and she doesn’t refer to herself as Italian-American.” “I was trying to explain the difference between race and ethnicity, and this girl kept poking the bear,” she said. The teacher also explained that  she was in physical pain and shortly after her verbal outburst had to have an appendectomy.

This whole incident, especially because we weren’t there and don’t know all the details, has me torn between a couple of points. I think the student should poke that bear! Poke that bear all day long! Question everything, let your voice be heard, argue things you don’t agree with. However, part of me thinks that most students are terribly disrespectful and she should have sat down and shut up and let the teacher make her point. I wish we could hear the entire discussion that was had. I do think the teacher shouldn’t curse like that in front of her students, teachers should set a good example and the only people allowed to go off like that on kids are the people who brought them into this world.

It was against school policy for the young lady to have her cell phone on in class and record her teacher, and according to the news article the teacher brought the recording to another teacher who was having issues with the swearing teacher and that teacher encouraged the student to spread it around. So there’s that element to the story too.

The Swearing McSweary-pants teacher has apologized and has been placed on paid leave while Los Angeles Unified School District administrators investigate.

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35 Comments

  1. Andrea

    October 11, 2013 at 9:09 am

    Yeah I can understand her frustration. Also, yeah poking the bear is all well and good, but there’s also the fact that you really should respect your teachers.

    • JLH1986

      October 11, 2013 at 10:06 am

      My mom had many discussions with me in high school about how to “poke the bear”. I could ask questions, but respectfully and I wasn’t to disrupt the class with them. I love that kids question what they are learning, but I’d probably want to cuss at that kid too. Also this is why I changed my majors in college I KNEW this would have been me eventually. The “F” word is my absolute favorite word.

  2. allisonjayne

    October 11, 2013 at 9:55 am

    I’m torn in the same way. Students should in general respect their teachers. But there are some teachers who don’t actually deserve that respect. I had a teacher in high school go on a diatribe against abortion (it was a social issues class so it was technically relevant) because she had recently found out she was infertile and therefore anyone who CAN have babies should just be happy they can. I didn’t have respect for her because she wasn’t encouraging debate, she was shutting it down – we weren’t allowed to disagree with her.

    Also, dontcha love it when people who have privilege in a certain way tell people who don’t have privilege in that way how they should define themselves? Charming. It’s like when (straight) people tell me I shouldn’t call myself queer because it’s derogatory. Maybe to you it is, but to me it’s my identity because it’s actually the word that really does best describe my identity.

    • Hibbie

      October 11, 2013 at 10:20 am

      That would have been an interesting and valuable place to take the discussion (either by the students or the teacher). It’s certainly possible to have engaging and respectful classroom discussions about race, ethnicity, and identity, but it sounds like both actors in this situation prevented that from occurring.

    • Eve Vawter

      October 11, 2013 at 10:21 am

      I would LOVE to hear the student’s argument on this, for all we know the teacher could have been being all way racist

    • Budhamissesyou

      January 1, 2014 at 11:44 pm

      whatever, sounds like the student was a little shit. So common these days. And there are no disciplinary measures that work. The argument over racism is just to way overdone. I come from the majority in this world. And it aint no white man

    • Blueathena623

      October 11, 2013 at 2:22 pm

      No surprise, I was a teacher’s pet, but there were three times I got in trouble in my k-12 years. Once I was being disrespectful and the teacher didn’t deserve it. Once I wasn’t trying to be disrespectful, but the teacher took it as disrespect. And the third time I didn’t give a fuck because he was an awful teacher and I walked out of the classroom. And I’m proud I walked out of that classroom.

      Without hearing the student’s questions, I don’t know which one this falls under.

    • Justme

      October 12, 2013 at 9:23 am

      I once got sent out to the hall during senior year because I corrected my Economics teacher that 1/6 does NOT equal 0.6. My favorite AP happened to be walking by and sat down and we chatted about the situation. He actually acknowledged that my Econ teacher wasn’t great but that there are still ways I can respectfully disagree with him. Both men still teach and work at my high school.

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  3. Angela

    October 11, 2013 at 10:32 am

    We don’t have all the details so I have no idea if the girl was respectfully asking questions and presenting her point or simply being mouthy and disrespectful, but as far as the teacher’s behavior I don’t really think it’s all that relevant. Yes, students need to be respectful to teachers and yes that behavior needs to be addressed BUT the fact is that teachers WILL encounter disrespectful students and being able to handle it appropriately is a huge part of their job. I’m not saying this to imply that teachers can’t ever slip up or exercise poor judgement. Teachers are human and will make mistakes. The fact that this teacher was ill and in pain should certainly be taken into account. Also whether this is an isolated incident or an ongoing pattern should have a lot of bearing on how this is handled. I’m just saying that when a teacher (or parent) loses their shit with a kid that we can’t pass the buck and victim blame the kid. If I lose my temper with my son I don’t say, “Sorry for yelling at you but it’s really your fault for pushing my buttons.” I say, “I’m sorry that I yelled. I was angry but that doesn’t make it ok for me to disrespect you like that.”

    And also, the teacher who encouraged the girl to spread the video around instead of helping her report it through proper channels should also be investigated and disciplined appropriately. That was beyond unprofessional and seems like she was a lot more concerned with her own vendetta than actually helping the kids.

  4. Katie L.

    October 11, 2013 at 11:02 am

    Appendicitis is awful. I was only 11 when I had it, but I still remember feeling horrible. Doesn’t make it okay for the teacher to swear at the students, but it’s not like she was at peak performance.

    As a teacher, I can tell you it is very hard to maintain composure at all times. It can be a daily struggle depending on the classes you teach and the support you have from the administration. However, the teacher is the adult in the classroom and should act accordingly which means not giving in to those disrespectful students (who are SO GOOD at pushing those buttons). I do think if this was her only outburst/complaint then she should be allowed to continue to teach.

    Side note: In 7th grade my social studies/language arts block class got a substitute to call us “shits” and “little assholes”. It was the day before winter break, there was a dance later that day and we were jerky 7th graders. I remember her crying in the office after school and feeling really bad because we did like her as a sub.

  5. keelhaulrose

    October 11, 2013 at 11:12 am

    I had a critical thinking class in high school where our teacher encouraged lively debate, and he and I once got into an hour long argument about gay rights (he was gay, but argued the other side because he wanted to encourage us to think). During this argument, which got quite heated, we exchanged several profanities (think “my work should not be able to fire me for who I’m fucking, lots of straight people fuck some really nasty, vapid ass-hats and they aren’t in danger of losing their jobs over it”, but name calling, just profanities that slipped out during a rather passionate defense of my sexuality). I don’t think profanities in the classroom are automatically a bad thing, but there has to be a level of respect and understanding between participants, and it doesn’t seem like that was evident in this case.

  6. Alicia Kiner

    October 11, 2013 at 11:50 am

    My husband’s mother is Korean. As in, she was born in South Korea. His father is American, born and raised in the US, and is retired Army. If you ask my husband, he’s American. Period. He absolutely HATES this African-American, Korean-American, whatever-American, and points out that we are more segregated now than we were in the 60s. When I was reading this article, all I could think about was my husband ranting about this subject, and wondering if that’s where this teacher is coming from. The teacher shouldn’t have sworn at the students, but the students need to have some respect towards the teacher. And listening to, at least hearing out all sides of the discussion is the responsibility of all the parties involved. Also, I really hope the teacher who insisted the student spread this around falls under some disciplinary review. This seems like some high school behavior as well. Also, in regards to the subject… African American isn’t even an accurate description the way it’s used. People tend to use African-American to refer to ALL black people, and not all black people have African ancestry, nor are all African Americans black. Maybe she’s just trying to, I don’t know… TEACH! Jeez.

    • lin

      October 11, 2013 at 1:14 pm

      So true! I have never understood why black people are referred to as African-Americans in the United States. Not all black people have African heritage, plus African countries are pretty diverse…would someone from Egypt be referred to as African-American? In Canada most of the black population, (at least in my area, I don’t have actual stats) are from Carribean countries. And pretty sure the PC term is still “black”.

    • Andrea

      October 11, 2013 at 1:58 pm

      I can’t vouch for everyone. But my closest black friends hate the AA term. They refer to themselves as black.

    • l

      October 11, 2013 at 2:39 pm

      If you’re going to downvote, explain why. Do you think we should call people African-Americans, even if they have no African roots?

    • CMJ

      October 11, 2013 at 5:50 pm

      I didn’t down-vote you but I can honestly tell you that it depends on the person. In my interactions with people it varies drastically. I don’t think it has anything to do with what is PC or not. Each person has a preference for how they would like their to describe their ethnicity/race. You might not understand it because you are not that person….everyone is entitled to their preference on the matter whether you understand it or not.

    • lin

      October 11, 2013 at 9:45 pm

      Sure it depends on the individual, which is why I don’t get why African-American is the accepted term for all black people, when many aren’t of African descent. I find that kind of racist. I’m not saying the term should he abolished, it just surprises me. Most black people in my city are Jamaican, but I would never refer to all Canadian black people as Jamaican-Canadian.

    • Budhamissesyou

      January 1, 2014 at 11:40 pm

      then they need to wear a nametag

  7. Cee

    October 11, 2013 at 1:23 pm

    I work for a neighboring district and hoo boy did we have a meeting about this.

    Also, I think LAUSD has a policy in which they cannot take away cell phones from students. But don’t quote me on that. Being more in charge of technology can have me out of the loop on certain issues.

    A girl who knows many of the kids at the school went on the local radio and said that the school is full of students that like to intimidate and “poke the bear” in ways that are not constructive to learning. It makes me wonder if any support is given and if any actual education is taking place if they are “notorious” (student’s word, not mine) for this.

  8. Mae Blackwood

    October 11, 2013 at 1:57 pm

    I really want to find a side to agree with one this, but it’s so hard. From my experience in school, I saw students who would do anything they could to be a total ass to their teachers because they figured they could get away with it and usually did. Because, let’s face it. Detention or being sent to the office isn’t that big of a deal on a bigger scale of things. The teacher won’t likely hit you or take you out of the world they didn’t bring you into like a parent can.

    But, on the other side, I’ve been in classes where teachers just do not care about anything and have openly said they’re only there because they need the pay check or simply “it’s my job”. I’ve even had teachers openly state how much they hate their jobs and didn’t want to be there anymore than we did so why bother, “read this page, do the questions, shut up” sort of teachers.

    Since I don’t know what her class is like, I can’t side with her or the student. The students could be terrible or she could be one of those “I’m so done with this shit job” sort of teacher.

    I do agree that probably shouldn’t have cussed the student, but we’ve all sort of lost our shit at some point. She could be a great teacher having a horrible day or she could be the complete opposite and it could be a common thing that someone just now decided to record.

    I wish I knew more about wtf is up, it feels weird not siding with someone on things like this.

  9. pineapplegrasss

    October 11, 2013 at 2:17 pm

    I wish I could hear the rest of it too. To hear what pissed her off. But, to me, her tone sounded mean and nasty. And she said the words all slow and deliberate. And she seemed to be talking to the whole class. Inappropriate. I would be more forgiving for a fbomb slip. On the other side, I say fuck all the time, and I even curse at my kids. Sometimes when I’m mad and sometimes just conversationally. They really are just words.

  10. CMJ

    October 11, 2013 at 2:31 pm

    I still can’t over the fact that another teacher encouraged the kid to circulate the video.

    • Cee

      October 11, 2013 at 2:40 pm

      I know. What a little immature shit stirrer. Very unprofessional.

    • Emmali Lucia

      October 11, 2013 at 4:11 pm

      I think THAT teacher should be on leave, not the one who had to get an Appendectomy.

    • Cee

      October 11, 2013 at 6:03 pm

      Well at least some reprimand…but today I am going to appreciate my coworkers

    • bingbingwa

      December 7, 2013 at 5:18 pm

      Paid leave is not a reprimand, it’s a vacation.

  11. Justme

    October 12, 2013 at 9:21 am

    I cannot imagine being so frustrated with a student that I resort to using profanity in the classroom. Honestly. I’m not saying that the little buggers don’t drive me crazy sometimes, but seriously…I’m the (loving, kind, generous, funny, grace-giving) Alpha Female in my classroom. I’m the one in charge and my students know that. There must have been a point at which the teacher could have said, “I’m done with this conversation and if you’d like to continue it, you may do so with the Assistant Principal in his office.” Granted, not all the teachers I’ve met have the greatest of classroom management skills but this is a bit ridiculous.

  12. Felix

    October 12, 2013 at 10:22 am

    I had a psych/sociology teacher who allowed us to curse in class in high school. We weren’t allowed to curse somebody out on purpose, but occasionally in the heat of the moment during a discussion, somebody was called a bitch, or the like. The teacher never reported it unless it became part of a larger incident. She didn’t use curse words herself except when we were discussing their use in society (and then she usually had some euphuism) and she always argued that they are prevalent in society and permeate our culture and are relevant to education. She used the example of the word “nigger” being used in Mark Twain’s books when it was true to the time period. I don’t think using or not using profanity in classrooms really makes a difference. So called profanity shouldn’t be used for profanities sake or to annoy somebody else, but to underscore a point.

  13. Maddi

    October 12, 2013 at 11:22 am

    Who cares if the teacher swore? These were 12th grade kids, not primary school students. I can assure you by 12th grade students no longer give a rats-ass about profanity. My teachers (I’m in my final year of high school in Australia) swear in class for emphasis or because they’re having a shit day and honestly it’s not a problem, and yes I have heard teachers say fuck. Shockingly I didn’t fall into a deep depression upon realising that my teachers are in fact humans, and I didn’t drop out of school or become a serial killer.

    I have no doubt in my mind that this student was being a little shit, and I have no problem at all with a teacher who was so unwell she needed an appendectomy BUT STILL CAME TO SCHOOL TO TEACH, letting the little shit know they were being a little shit.

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    October 12, 2013 at 2:59 pm

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    October 12, 2013 at 3:00 pm

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