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If You Have More Sympathy For Mickey The Pit Bull Than For The Child He Mauled You’re Sick

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998043_627614497287792_1389194484_nA pit bull mauled a four-year-old boy last month as he and his friend were playing in the yard. The attack left Kevin Vicente with a broken eye socket, a broken jaw, and the possibility of years of reconstructive surgery ahead of him. One of the adults at the scene, Guadalupe Villa filed a vicious-dog petition that started the case to get the dog put down. The petition has also started a social media campaign to keep the Mickey the dog alive. I think it’s absurd that any money is being spent to save this dog’s life when the child he mauled has a housekeeper mother whose lost her job and home trying to care for him.

Villa alleges that the dog has a history of acting violent without provocation. She also alleges that Mickey killed one of her dogs. Animal advocates claim that it was the babysitter’s negligence not the fault of the dog that the attack happened in the first place. The child allegedly wandered into a neighbor’s yard and tried to take a bone from the dog.  After the boy was attacked, the owner of the dog turned the dog over to Animal Care and Control and told them they no longer wanted the dog.

Enter a bunch of animal lovers, who are more disturbed that a dog is being put down than that a 4-year-old lost his eye and nearly bled to death. They blame the babysitter who didn’t have a close enough eye on the kid and allowed him to wander. I think they are definitely right about that part, I also think it takes seconds for a child to wander away. I’m confused as to why a home with a dog that has an alleged history of violence wouldn’t have him properly secured? The dog definitely wasn’t cared for or trained properly here either, because mauling is not a usual reaction to someone reaching for a bone.

While I understand that, I think taking an incident where a child was almost mauled to death and making it about standing up for the reputation of pit bulls is ridiculous and obscene. Clearly the dog has been failed and the babysitter was negligent, but a social media campaign and thousands of dollars spent to save a pit pull with a propensity for violence? There is a four-year-old who is going to be scarred for life with a housekeeper mother who can no longer work because she needs to care for him:

“He screams and cries,” she said. “He says, ‘Leave, I don’t want to see you.’ … Sometimes, I don’t know what to do.”

When she does leave him to eat or use the restroom, Kevin begs her to stay, afraid she will leave him at the hospital.

After quitting her job to take care of Kevin, Flor lost her home. Her belongings are temporarily at a friend’s.

“What do I do for him? Who can I hold on to? I wish that it had happened to me instead of him,” she said. “He sees me and says, ‘Don’t cry, mommy, I love you.’ But I know I can’t do anything. I can’t help him.”

We have a woman who lost her job and home because she is caring for her child and a bunch of people rallying around the dog that mauled him:

A New York-based non-profit is raising money to pay for the dog’s legal expenses, while a local attorney is donating his time to represent Mickey. Tens of thousands of people are rallying via social media to save the dog’s life.

Give me a fucking break. Anyone who has more sympathy for a dog than for a woman who has lost her home and her job to care for the child that was mauled by that dog is… actually, for once I have no words. I’ll just say that any money being spent to save the life of a pit bull would be better served in her pocket.

(photo: Facebook)

301 Comments

  1. Kelly

    March 25, 2014 at 2:13 pm

    Yep, people get all weird-stupid when it comes to dogs. I lived in a neighborhood where one of my neighbors brought home a dog that would snarl and growl at anybody who walked by the fence and try to jump over the fence and dig under it to get at people. It was a big ass, scary dog, and we lived in a quiet cul de sac where all the kids played in a grassy common area behind the houses.

    I mentioned the dog and the women casually told me that she was hiding him because he had mauled and almost killed two children and was supposed to be put down. I pretended not to be horrified until I got the information I needed and then I made some phone calls and the dog was eventually put down.

    The neighborhood split pretty much in half over it, and everyone in the neighborhood had children. Half of them thought I did the right thing, half of them thought I was a murderous bitch. Half the neighborhood was totally cool with a violent dog frantically digging at the ground next to the fence so it could get out and eat their children. Totally cool with that, it blew my mind.

    • SmrtGrl86

      March 25, 2014 at 3:00 pm

      You rock, my aunt had a dog that bit EIGHT different people and she never did a thing about it. Now she can’t figure out why none of us feel comfortable bringing babies and toddlers to her house. Plus she runs an in home doggy day care and let’s them crap all over her house constantly. Her obsession with animals > people drives me insane.

    • SmrtGrl86

      March 25, 2014 at 3:00 pm

      You rock, my aunt had a dog that bit EIGHT different people and she never did a thing about it. Now she can’t figure out why none of us feel comfortable bringing babies and toddlers to her house. Plus she runs an in home doggy day care and let’s them crap all over her house constantly. Her obsession with animals > people drives me insane.

    • Kelly

      March 25, 2014 at 3:16 pm

      She will murder someone some day. I know it sounds harsh but I think people like your aunt should be prosecuted when their dog finally seriously injures or kills someone.

      Eight victims… and she still wouldn’t do a damn thing. If that dog had killed someone, she’d be a murderer just the same as if she pulled out a gun and shot that person. These people need to be severely punished. If your dog keeps biting people, you KNOW it’s violent and dangerous. It becomes your fault at that point.

    • JLH1986

      March 25, 2014 at 3:18 pm

      Were the bites reported? I know in our county 1 bite= dog quarantined for 10 days, 2 bites (if provoked) quarantined 20 days and training, 2nd bite unprovoked, put down.

    • SmrtGrl86

      March 25, 2014 at 3:32 pm

      Nope it always bit her friends and family members and no one wanted to report it and have to deal with her hysterical bullshit. My dad did pull a knife on it once after it bit him, she lost her shit and didn’t talk to him for months for threatening her “baby” that drew blood through a pair of blue jeans. Bites were all unprovoked, we were so glad when that damn dog finally died.

    • JLH1986

      March 25, 2014 at 3:38 pm

      Jesus. I love my dogs. Probably more than is healthy but even I can’t find a reason to continue to have a dog that dangerous. That dog was clearly just one of those dogs who aren’t wired right. If someone who knew me and my dog felt they had to pull a knife I’d be re-evaluating.

    • Fireinthefudgehole

      March 25, 2014 at 3:20 pm

      My neighbor had a dog that bit a ton of people, including myself and her own grandson. It’s wasn’t until after it attacked her cocker spaniel that she had her son kill it with a friggin’ knife.

    • Sara

      March 26, 2014 at 3:21 am

      That’s horrible! I had a big mutt dog when I was little that bit a neighborhood girl that had grown up with all of me and my siblings. My mom and dad immediately had the dog out down. EIGHT people is just ridiculous.!!!!!!

    • Ennis Demeter

      March 25, 2014 at 5:10 pm

      I LOVE dogs, and I would have done the same thing. Good job.

    • Emil

      March 25, 2014 at 7:31 pm

      I’m not your neighbor but even so, thank you!!

    • I hate Pits!

      July 7, 2020 at 12:01 am

      I am so outraged at the amount of people who care more for this murdering mutt than they do for the child! I simply cannot understand it at all!What kind of world we live in now that thinks dogs are some sort of priority over kids?I keep hoping and praying that the laws will be changed for the sake of public safety and that pit bulls will be spayed and neutered into extinction!I hope little Kevin will be able to heal from his injuries and i pray this will not affect his future. I simply cannot imagine what his family is having to go through with all of this 🙁

  2. pixie

    March 25, 2014 at 2:21 pm

    I, and I think pretty much all of us who were “fightin’ the good fight” yesterday, will agree with you, Maria. And I could kiss you for admitting that this dog is not an example of every dog of it’s breed. It might be sad, but the dog mauled a child and should be put down, especially if it has a history of unprovoked aggression. What’s even sadder is that this dog wasn’t properly cared for or trained. Any dog needs to be trained and properly cared for, I don’t care if it’s a Black Russian or a Shih Tzu, dogs need to be trained and have their appropriate needs addressed. There were definitely mistakes on both sides, the babysitter for taking her eyes off the child long enough for him to wander (also, it’s super important to teach children from a young age animal safety, though a 4 year old probably won’t remember 100% of the time) and the dog’s owner.

    I consider myself a pretty big animal lover, but I understand situations when animals need to be put down. The farm I ride at used to have this dog – some sort of mutt – that wasn’t right in the head for whatever reason (before my coach got control of the farm back, this was when her ex was still running things for a bit after they broke up). It wasn’t neglected or abused, it was just a rare occurrence of an unpredictable and potentially dangerous dog. The dog bit two people. Neither were very severe, thankfully, but this dog was just not good. When my coach got the farm back, one of the first things she did was take the dog to the humane society and explain the situation so that she didn’t have to worry about any liabilities because of the dog. One of the people loyal to her ex husband who was pissed that my coach got the farm back (I think the ex barn manager who was a real piece of work…) went to the humane society and claimed that it was their dog and everything that my coach said about it being aggressive and a potential threat was a lie and somehow produced papers for this dog. The humane society released the dog to the person and now lives at another riding facility that the ex barn manager opened up. I recently met a girl who used to ride at both my farm and the ex barn managers farm, plus knows people who still ride there, and says that the dog has bit and has come close to biting a few more people without cause.

  3. Magrat

    March 25, 2014 at 2:21 pm

    I don’t think it’s an either-or proposition. Would it be better if they were directing their money and effort toward helping the kid recover and the mom pay bills? Absolutely. But you’re suggesting that sympathy for the dog (who was probably neglected or abused–well-adjusted dogs rarely if ever maul people) = fuck the kid. Putting down the dog isn’t going to help the poor little boy or his mom.

    • Kelly

      March 25, 2014 at 2:23 pm

      Money is flowing in for the dog and the victim and his mother are now homeless. That’s a pretty clear statement of “fuck the kid” if I ever heard one.

    • Magrat

      March 26, 2014 at 1:38 am

      There is a fund for the victim, apparently. The author either didn’t know about it or chose not to include it.

    • Kelly

      March 26, 2014 at 9:04 am

      They’re homeless now. Did you miss that part? People aren’t donating to the victim, they are donating to the dog.

    • Lacey

      March 25, 2014 at 2:35 pm

      I agree. Having sympathy for the dog doesn’t mean I don’t also have sympathy for the family.

    • whiteroses

      March 25, 2014 at 4:23 pm

      This kind of reminds me of all those people who keep wild animals (lions, tigers, etc) in their homes, then act shocked when the tiger or lion hurts them. They’re acting on instinct, as most animals do.

      I’m sympathetic towards Mickey- but that doesn’t change anything.

    • Heidi

      March 25, 2014 at 2:36 pm

      Disagree disagree disagree. Putting down the dog WILL help this poor boy and his mom get some closure. AND, it will ensure that no other innocent child will be mauled by this horrible beast again! PUT THE DOG DOWN for crying out loud!!!

    • NYCNanny

      March 25, 2014 at 4:01 pm

      Closure is bullshit. Putting the dog down won’t help the kid or his mom Killing the dog will not bring the kid’s eye back, it won’t undo the physical or mental harm. Nope.

    • whiteroses

      March 25, 2014 at 4:20 pm

      But it might prevent the dog from mauling another kid. If it was my kid- I’d want it to be put down. As I said below, I wouldn’t give a crap about Mickey’s rights if it was my son.

      You can’t reason with a dog the way you can with a human. And if the dog has killed other dogs and has bitten other humans, it needs to be put down.

    • Mystik Spiral

      March 25, 2014 at 5:10 pm

      Putting the dog down for some “closure” is bullshit. He needs to be put down because the rest of his life will be horrible for him, and euthanization is the most humane thing to do.

      Believe it or not, people, it IS possible to have compassion for the dog and the kid at the same time. They are both innocent victims in this.

    • Steve DeJohn

      March 25, 2014 at 8:00 pm

      Nice comment. I agree. The dog may need to be put down, but demonizing it is unfair and also totally useless.

    • Steve DeJohn

      March 25, 2014 at 7:58 pm

      Heidi, you have a terrible outlook. Stop freaking out for a minute and think rationally. The dog is not evil. It is not a monster. It is a dog. The child is a child. Both should have been better supervised. This unfortunate incident was the result of two adults failing in their jobs.
      I kind of want to puke though when people say they love their animals, but would immediately put them down if they bit. Ha ha, so they get one shot and then burnt to toast. If my dogs attacked someone, I wouldn’t know what to do. If I had to put them down, it would be gut wrenching, but what choice would I have? I don’t value animals more than humans, but it doesn’t mean I don’t love them for what happiness they give me.
      Anyone who calls a dog evil or a monster is just absolutely wrong.
      Ha ha. Laughably so!
      Of course it’s awful that boy got mauled and that resources do not exist to rehabilitate the dog. The dog got fucked in the game of life and that makes me angry. Kevin will live with these scars for his life because of one tragic accident. It’s awful, but whining and bitching about the need for the dog to die does nothing. Yes, we KNOW you’re outraged and upset. Who wouldn’t be? Comments like yours add nothing positive to the conversation, though.

      Donate money to Kevin, show your support if you want to. I can’t imagine what it would be like for that to happen to your child. I think I’d be suicidal, honestly.
      But I’d also be wrong to be angry at the dog. Why be angry at it? What’s the point? That’s like being angry at a child for shitting its diaper.
      “Dog, you son of a bitch! You bit my child!”
      “I’m sorry, I have no idea what you’re saying.”
      “You monster! You evil bastard!”
      “…..where’s my kibble? What? I’m being put down? I can’t understand why, but okay. It sure sucks being a dog. People think I have rational, intelligent thoughts and- oh look, a pile of my shit! I gotta eat it!”

      That being said, I think these people donating money to the dog are thinking on a level of stupidity that is unforeseen. Give money to the child for the love of Pete. What the dog needs is either a caring trainer or to be euthanized.
      It’s all terrible really.

    • Heidi

      March 26, 2014 at 6:27 am

      WAY too much time on your hands, dude. This is where we differ – I have no time to dissecting the dog’s inner monologue. He mauled a kid. He should die. Done.

    • Mystik Spiral

      March 26, 2014 at 12:03 pm

      I hope no animals ever have the displeasure of being under your supervision. You’ve been making post after post of how this dog “MUST DIE!!! YARGH!!!” And poor Steve makes one well-thought-out comment and HE’S got too much time on his hands? Get over yourself.

    • whiteroses

      March 25, 2014 at 3:26 pm

      Kevin lost an eye, his mom is homeless, and a lawyer is offering to defend the dog so the dog doesn’t have to be put down. I can be sympathetic toward Mickey until my face is blue, but it takes a whole lot of rage and force to take a four year old’s eye out. And if it were my son, I wouldn’t give a crap about Mickey’s rights. Kevin is going to be traumatized by this for the rest of his life.

      I love animals. But animals don’t outrank people, imho.

    • Mystik Spiral

      March 25, 2014 at 4:54 pm

      Some animals outrank some people.

    • whiteroses

      March 25, 2014 at 6:34 pm

      I’d rather have Hitler’s dog than Hitler. But for the most part… I stand by my original statement.

    • Sara

      March 25, 2014 at 5:01 pm

      This is anecdotal but I hear more stories about well-trained dogs just snapping and attacking people. And when my sister was working at a vet clinic said that the few abused dogs that came in were the nicer ones. This is all anecdotal of course so discount it if you want.

    • Tazlima

      March 25, 2014 at 8:51 pm

      I worked at a vet clinic and the abused dogs we saw were often sweet-tempered, but it’s not necessarily a representative sample of abused dogs for a couple reasons.

      1) Previously abused dogs that are being given proper medical care are very likely no longer abused (usually because they’ve been adopted). Often they’ve been through the filtration system of an animal shelter and their sweet temperament is what kept them from being euthanized in the first place. Animal shelters can be held liable if a dog they adopt out injures someone (at least in my state), so they don’t like to take chances. Add to that the fact that there are far more dogs than homes, and the shelters can afford to be choosy.

      2) For an animal to be brought to the vet, it has to be at least minimally OK with handling. You have to be able to get the dog into your vehicle, and then get it from the car to the veterinarian’s office without being torn to pieces. Abused animals who have turned mean will rarely get that far before their owners give up on the idea. At best, they’ll be brought for medical care only when their illness/injury makes them too weak to fight. (In one case, the owner brought the animal in because it was “having a seizure or something, it was all stiff.” The stiffness was rigor mortis).

      We had some challenges with these, as the moment they felt better they tried to kill us, and it takes a very specific skill set to handle such animals without injury to either yourself or the animal.

      Because abusive owners frequently consider veterinary care a waste of money, the abused animals we saw most frequently were “yard dogs” whose owners had been given 48 hours by law enforcement to get their dog a rabies shot or have the animal confiscated. Some were sweet and some were nasty. Mostly though, they were unpredictable. They had often spent so little time around humans that they didn’t know how to interact, which made them easily startled and reactive. Imagine if you were abducted by aliens who wanted to touch you, only you didn’t know if they meant to pat your hair or rip your ears off. At best you’d be wary and nervous, at worst, you’d be terrified and lash out preemptively.

      Sweet abused animals have a chance of finding a better life and receiving medical care. Mean abused animals live hidden behind fences until they die at the end of a chain.

    • Sara

      March 26, 2014 at 3:11 am

      The vet clinic my sister worked at was responsible for helping out a shelter so they got some of the sketchier dogs and cats. I probably should have phrased it as the owners who said their dogs were well trained had the dogs more likely to go after someone.
      And I’m well aware that my anecdotes aren’t enough to be a good sampling and that abused animals can be unpredictable. My family had a horse that had been left to rot in a horse stall that was really nice to girls under twenty on certain days and screaming she-witch ready to rip your face off on others. (She because of these tendencies and many many other had to be out down.)

  4. Tinyfaeri

    March 25, 2014 at 2:22 pm

    https://maricopahealthfoundation.org/civicrm/contribute/transact?reset=1&id=14
    There is also a fund to help Kevin. Maybe we can give that some press, too.

    As far as the dog, I can see where his supporters (?) are coming from, and since that’s getting all the press, the internet mob mentality kicks in and people forget about the child. It was not the dog’s fault. It was the adults around him and around the child. That doesn’t make what happened any less tragic or horrible and my heart goes out to the little boy and his mom. I hope people donate to his fund, too.

    • k

      March 25, 2014 at 7:24 pm

      I agree with helping the child, but it IS also the dog’s fault, completely. Taking a bone from a dog, like a stick, is totally normal behavior- this is a way to play with dogs the child may have seen before. To attack almost to death is only the dog’s fault so stop blaming only the babysitter.

    • Tinyfaeri

      March 25, 2014 at 7:38 pm

      Where was I blaming only the babysitter? I blame the dog’s owners as much if not more. They should have trained him better, kept him behind a fence or in the house, not let him out unsupervised, not kept him tied up all day, and the list goes on. You’re acting like a dog has the reasoning capability of an adult, when they just don’t. That doesn’t mean I don’t think he should be put down, because if he’s violent and acts out violently, and his owners are not capable of or just not controlling him, there isn’t much else to do. I still don’t think it’s the dog’s fault that he got there. You might as well blame a toddler or someone with severe mental illness for getting upset or acting out.

    • RQuake

      March 25, 2014 at 8:15 pm

      Is that seriously how you encourage children to play with dogs?? By taking bones away from them? And how many times have you been bitten…

    • Peggy

      March 25, 2014 at 10:21 pm

      We have a 110lb shepherd mix we rescued before we had kids. We made sure that while we were training him we intentionally took food and toys out of his mouth to gauge his reaction. We strictly instruct our children never to do it to any dog, but it’s nice to have a dog (especially a large one) who is tolerant of that behavior.

    • C.J.

      March 25, 2014 at 10:37 pm

      We did that too. When we got our dog I spent a lot of time handling her mouth, ears and paws. I also pet and talked to her a lot while she was eating. She was a puppy so she learned to be tolerant pretty quick. She is not territorial about her food at all. She will let other dogs eat from her bowl and lets the cat drink her water no problem. We can take toys out of her mouth. When she was a pup we could take whatever she was getting in to that she wasn’t supposed to have out of her mouth.

    • Sara

      March 26, 2014 at 3:19 am

      It’s how the SPCA tests their animals for aggression too. They use a fake hand while the dog is eating to pet it and see how it reacts.

  5. Alene

    March 25, 2014 at 2:24 pm

    It doesn’t matter that it’s a pit bull, it matters that he nearly killed a CHILD. I don’t agree with people writing off pit bulls based on breed, but this dog is clearly dangerous and has a history of being dangerous. It sucks that pit bulls have this reputation, but sticking up for violent animals is not the answer.

    • Heidi

      March 25, 2014 at 2:31 pm

      Oh goodness. Give it a rest with the “pit bulls are great dogs” agenda. They are responsible for the vast majority of bites/attacks/maulings. But yes, they are great dogs. Sure!

    • Eve Vawter

      March 25, 2014 at 2:46 pm

      yeah I am pretty much waiting for the stop marginalizing pit bulls! there are many more vicious breeds of dogs! people

    • Kendra

      March 25, 2014 at 2:46 pm

      Actually, they may be responsible for a large amount maulings, but they are definitely not the breed with the highest bite rate.

    • Sarah

      March 25, 2014 at 2:56 pm

      This is simply untrue; labs are responsible for the most dog bites. That’s not to say labs are vicious beasts either, labs and pits are just extremely popular breeds. It’s not exactly rocket science…

    • brebay

      March 25, 2014 at 5:47 pm

      Labs are responsible for more bites only because there are more labs. She’s talking about number of bites in relation to number of dogs of that breed. And a bite is usually not a huge deal, it’s maulings that are deadly, and Pitts have the highest rate.

    • Sarah

      March 25, 2014 at 7:01 pm

      Any sources for this “bite rate in relation to breed population”? Didn’t think so. We don’t even know how many dogs exist of each breed so your comment is null and void from the get-go. And of course there are more lab bites because they are so popular…did you even read my comment before hitting reply?

    • Alene

      March 25, 2014 at 3:03 pm

      Not what I meant in the slightest. I’m saying that any dog, regardless of breed, needs to be put down after an incident like this. Particularly when it’s not the first time it has happened. I’m actually quite wary of pit bulls in general, but certainly don’t believe they are ALL vicious. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

    • guest

      March 25, 2014 at 3:28 pm

      I didn’t get that impression from the comment at all…

    • Jessie

      March 25, 2014 at 4:23 pm

      Really? Funny, cause in the nearly ten years that I have worked closely with dogs in a boarding kennel, not once have I or a coworker been bitten or otherwise attacked by a pit bull.
      The most common offenders? Labradors and dachsunds. After them come the chihuahuas and poodle/maltese types… So the “ankle biter” breeds mostly.

    • Jallun-Keatres

      March 25, 2014 at 5:37 pm

      OMG dachshunds. Our neighbors had three nonstop-barking bloodthirsty male dachshunds and everyone hated them because they never STFU’d. I went to their house once to call my dad because I got locked out of mine and the most aggressive mother effer of the three bit me on the leg and was hanging from my coat. We were not sad when they moved.

      That dog’s name was Fabio. lolol

    • meteor_echo

      March 25, 2014 at 6:57 pm

      Our neighbors have two. Never have I been more sick of a dog – they never shut up and try to sneak into our yard to attack us; I seriously hope they finally keel over from old age.

    • Shea

      March 26, 2014 at 12:19 pm

      Ugh, dachshunds. I’m sure there are nice ones out there, but I’ve never met one that wasn’t yappy and bitey. I have scars on my face from being bitten by one when I was a little kid, it bit clean through my nose in several places. I’m not a fan of small breeds in general, actually.

    • Jessie

      March 26, 2014 at 12:52 pm

      I have come across a few sweet doxies in my years at the kennel, but most of them are yappy and bitey. The smaller breeds in general ARE the worst offenders for aggression in my experience, and labradors are the worst among large breeds.

    • whiteroses

      March 26, 2014 at 3:36 pm

      I grew up around doxies- and I will say that as a general rule, they’re territorial in the extreme. Most of the doxies I’ve owned had great temperaments, so I was very lucky.

    • Michelle Pittman

      March 25, 2014 at 5:28 pm

      yes, there are other dogs who bite more (i believe cocker spaniels are very high), however, pit bulls lead in number of deaths attributed to them, followed by rottweilers…i understand they can be nice dogs — i have been around wonderful ones and i am not anti the breed…however, one would think, as aggression CAN be genetic, putting down the violent/aggressive ones like this MAY strengthen the breed…

    • Sara

      March 26, 2014 at 3:16 am

      I think the high-rate for pit bull bites may be the way dog breeds are classified. I think Wikipedia says that pit bull includes different breeds like French and English bulldogs and a few others while lab is just one breed. (I could have misread it). It makes sense to me that if more than one breed was included in the statistics it would be higher.

    • Joe

      March 25, 2014 at 6:14 pm

      They’re only responsible for the ones the biased media plasters all over tv. I’ve been bitten bad enough to need stitches twice- by a Dalmatian (but they’re great cause firemen love them and Disney made a movie right?) and a cocker spaniel. My niece was bitten in the face by her grandmother’s dog. I don’t recall the exact breed but guess what, GASP, it WASNT a pitbull! And NO main stream media coverage!? Do some research lady.

    • Heidi

      March 26, 2014 at 6:38 am

      Yes, yes, you are right. I should have spent more hours researching exact numbers of dog bites and dog mailings by breed so I could present them here on this blog. I should have prepared a power point presentation, actually. You are so right. And then we could analyze the data using fancy statistics and pour over the results together, you know…on this BLOG! Seriously, get over yourself! No one needs to do any research to know that pit bulls rank up there with ONE OF THE MOST aggressive breeds, are responsible for LOTS of bites and maulings, and are more likely than some other breeds to be raised by trashy, abusive losers who mistreat them to the point that they become violent. Your straw man anecdotes about dalmations, cocker spaniels, and “I don’t recall the exact breed but it wasn’t a pit bull” are not exactly research either, genius.

    • Sarah

      March 26, 2014 at 2:06 pm

      It takes you hours to research which breed is responsible for the most bites? It takes about 5 seconds to google it. Talk about genius! Also, your classism is showing. Gross.

    • Nan

      March 25, 2014 at 8:11 pm

      You are incorrect. http://lassiegethelp.blogspot.com/2007/08/dangerous-breeds-dog-bite-statistics.html

      “Pit bull” is not a singular breed, so saying they are responsible for more bites/attacks/identity thefts is like saying that sedans are in more car accidents than Toyota Tundras. Of course they are, one is a group of many types and the other is a specific model.

      Further, supposed breed information is no longer collected because it’s been proven to be unreliable and irrelevant. The only numbers that say otherwise are based on media reporting, and if you think the media doesn’t over-report “pit bull” bites, then you must also think that only blonde, white, young females ever go missing.

  6. Mai

    March 25, 2014 at 2:24 pm

    My mother in law actually owns an aggressive dog. It is more of an ankle biter sized dog, not a pitbull. I don’t like to visit my In laws because I feel like I have to be always on guard to avoid being bit.
    I have asked her why she keeps the dog. She says she loves the dog and is afraid if she gives him up, he will be put down. I didn’t say anything but I thought it would be for the best if he was put down. He is a ticking time bomb.

  7. Heidi

    March 25, 2014 at 2:30 pm

    AGREED, Maria! Sympathy for this dog is LUDICROUS! I have 2 dogs. I love them dearly. But I am sorry – once I had kids, the dogs come second. That is that. I think that is how the world works – children trump dogs. Sorry! Especially evil, viscous dogs who maul children. Let’s put that horrible creature down, send some resources to that poor poor family, and help everyone get their heads on straight! Vicious dog vs. helpless 4 year old – is this really a question!?! I really dislike these animal lover nazis. Enough already.

    • Eve Vawter

      March 25, 2014 at 2:30 pm

      I LOVE my dog, he is my baby, and if he even snapped at a kid I am sorry I would Kevorkian his ass so fast

    • Heidi

      March 25, 2014 at 2:33 pm

      Yes, right? Sorry not sorry…..dogs don’t get to hurt kids for any reason. Simple as that!

    • JLH1986

      March 25, 2014 at 3:00 pm

      I don’t know after one snap I’d put him down, but we’d be crating and rehoming with a quickness, with full disclosure. Dogs have shit days too and can’t cry, so they snap. But no snapping once means time to move on. Snapping more than once or an actual bite? Now we’re talking to the vet.

    • Larkin

      March 25, 2014 at 3:46 pm

      Yeah, I think there’s definitely a difference between a snap and a bite. A snap that doesn’t connect could be a warning to leave the dog the f*** alone (like cats swatting with their claws sheathed). A friend of mine had a golden retriever that snapped at their toddler. He was great with most people, but they couldn’t get their toddler to stop poking him (which provoked the snapping), so they found a new, childless home for him.

    • JLH1986

      March 26, 2014 at 8:52 am

      Dogs can’t speak so snapping is often their only form of communication. But it’s also important that parents teach their kids not to poke and scratch etc. And if their kid can’t or the dog can’t then yea it’s time to rehome.

    • JLH1986

      March 25, 2014 at 3:00 pm

      I don’t know after one snap I’d put him down, but we’d be crating and rehoming with a quickness, with full disclosure. Dogs have shit days too and can’t cry, so they snap. But no snapping once means time to move on. Snapping more than once or an actual bite? Now we’re talking to the vet.

    • Psych Student

      March 25, 2014 at 5:06 pm

      Just snapping shouldn’t be enough to get a dog put down. Dogs growl and snap in an attempt to get the distressing thing (person, animal, etc.) away from them. When that doesn’t work, they resort to biting. It doesn’t seem fair to punish a dog who tired to tell a child to get away with snapping (which I take to mean biting in the direction of the treat, not putting teeth on it).

    • CrazyFor Kate

      March 25, 2014 at 5:10 pm

      Agreed. My dog bit me a little once, not hard enough to break the skin but enough to let me know that I was being evil. My dad got angry and punished the dog, but my mom was 100% Team Dog. There’s a difference between a warning nip and an actual bite, guys.

    • Psych Student

      March 25, 2014 at 5:17 pm

      Yeah, and I’m sure that most people know that. They are probably (hopefully!) just trying to express support for trying to keep people safe from consistently aggressive dogs.

    • Eve Vawter

      March 26, 2014 at 12:01 pm

      yeah right sorry I should have said BITEY, and just out of the blue, not if a kid was antagonizing them, getting in food etc, teasing them

    • Psych Student

      March 26, 2014 at 2:37 pm

      That’s what I figured you meant. You always seem to have a pretty reasonable perspective. 🙂

    • blh

      March 25, 2014 at 3:29 pm

      I completely agree. I am so sick of these stupid nit cases who value animals over people. If a dog ever said that to my child id shoot him myself.

    • Heidi

      March 25, 2014 at 3:46 pm

      Hear, hear!!!! I wouldn’t even think twice before pulling that trigger!

    • Mystik Spiral

      March 25, 2014 at 5:03 pm

      If a dog ever said ANYTHING to my child I’d call scientists SO FAST to study that dog to see why it’s talking…

    • NYCNanny

      March 25, 2014 at 4:08 pm

      There are no “evil” dogs. There are hurt, abused, poorly trained dogs. Just like there are poorly raised hurt children who turn into aggressive adults.

      Having sympathy for this dog does rule out sympathy for the child. I have both.

    • Heidi

      March 25, 2014 at 4:32 pm

      Proofread your last 2 sentences. Your comment makes no sense.

    • NYCNanny

      March 25, 2014 at 5:24 pm

      Having sympathy for this does does not rule out sympathy for the child. I have both.

      Reading comprehension time!

      I have both sympathy for the dog and sympathy for the child. One does not negate the other.

    • I hate Pits!

      July 11, 2020 at 9:38 pm

      Still people come on here feeling soory for that child mauling sh*t beast! Look at all the money that went into that worhtless creature that could have went to Kevin to help him with his surgeries and to help his poor mother while she helps him recover.These heartless people on here still fdefending that disgusting gargoyle keep making bs excuses as to why he did it and there no reason for what that monster mutt did to him!This bs blaming Kevin taking a bone is just stupid and even if he did that is not grounds of rthat nasty mauler to attack him and nearly kill him! A child is of far more value than a mutt [and it is the mutt who is to be subserviant to the child,not the other way around,but dog nutz think that everyone should bow to a dog,i say that is bs! Dogs bow and obey us the superior being! Every person whi aided that disgusting beast over Kevin will indeed answer for it one day, in this life or the next! #OnlyKevinslifematters!

  8. Ann

    March 25, 2014 at 2:31 pm

    I own three little dogs, all under 10lbs, none of them have been aggressive, however, as a mom of 3 children not including my fur babies, I could not keep them if any of them turned on a child. Provoked or not, pit bull or yorkie, a dog who has attacked a child will always have potential to attack and I would not feel safe for anyone coming over. I would have to have them put down.

  9. Kendra

    March 25, 2014 at 2:38 pm

    I have a complex view of topics like this. I have always been an animal lover, for one. I don’t agree that a breed defines a dog, as you said. I do agree that sometimes dogs are too violent and generally that is not their fault, and those dogs do need to be put down. I also agree that based off the little information I have here that this dog should be one of them. If it was an isolated incident, I wouldn’t be so quick to say “put him down”, but considering some are saying he has a past violent history, that is a definite for me. All of that being said, I do think many incidents with dogs and children are adults fault, and that doesn’t necessarily mean it’s a bad dog. I also want to state, before everyone jumps down my throat here, I was bit in the face by a dog when I was about 18 months old. To this day, I’ll tell you that this wasn’t the dog’s fault. The owners were responsible partially because he was not on their property. My dad was responsible partially because he wasn’t watching me closely. And I was responsible because I put my face up in the dog’s face and was behaving aggressively towards it. In the case of the incident that I experienced, I’m glad the dog wasn’t put to sleep in the end.

    • Heidi

      March 25, 2014 at 2:40 pm

      Doesn’t matter if it is an adult’s fault or not….if the dog mauls someone, the dog is still violent at present time and needs to be put down. Sorry you had to go through this – hoping this awful dog gets put down so that no one else has to suffer like this poor boy!

    • Kendra

      March 25, 2014 at 2:42 pm

      I agree with if a dog MAULS someone, it needs to be put down. I do not agree that all dogs who BITE someone need to be put down. That’s the only difference I was trying to point out.

    • Kelly

      March 25, 2014 at 3:21 pm

      This kid lost an eye. Some of the medical professionals who worked on him needed treatment because they were so traumatized by what happened to him. I’d say he was definitely mauled.

    • Frannie

      March 25, 2014 at 2:46 pm

      I got bit by a schnauzer when i was a kid and hated them, and now I have two. Not sure how that worked out.

    • Kendra

      March 25, 2014 at 2:48 pm

      That’s ironic! The dog that bit me was also a schnauzer. I grew up to love animals despite it, and I even worked at a veterinary clinic for awhile. Everyone always asks me why I’m not afraid of dogs. I really don’t know.

    • TngldBlue

      March 25, 2014 at 2:52 pm

      That is funny-I was bit by a schnauzer too!

    • CrazyFor Kate

      March 25, 2014 at 5:03 pm

      I never got bitten with my dog (except when my golden nipped me once for being an asshole toddler), but damn did my sister’s cats try to take me out on a regular basis. One of them even jumped on me from a higher surface once. Fucking cats.

    • Heidi

      March 25, 2014 at 5:04 pm

      Yes cats do suck.

    • Mystik Spiral

      March 25, 2014 at 5:07 pm

    • Psych Student

      March 25, 2014 at 5:18 pm

      Yay!

    • Jallun-Keatres

      March 25, 2014 at 5:44 pm

      My grandparents had a cat who would scratch your face if you put it close to hers. Coming from having a cat who loved this I got my face messed up a bunch of times. I hated that cat.

    • Frannie

      March 25, 2014 at 2:54 pm

      Terriers can be terrible with kids. The one that bit me was a rescue that my aunt had just adopted. He jumped up and bit my stomach. I had a giant blood blister for weeks. Mine we got because DH is allergic to dogs and they don’t shed. I don’t know how I ever agreed to get them, but I love those dogs now. They haven’t bitten since they were teething and they’re now 9 years old. They don’t really love my kids, but they like them and put up with them. They’re more the duck and run type- if they see a child coming they’ll just go somewhere else. If they’re feeling very charitable, they’ll let the kids pat them or play fetch, but mostly they politely leave the room when the kids enter.

    • Kendra

      March 25, 2014 at 2:57 pm

      Yes, that is true. The one that bit me was a neighbor dog. I’m assuming he wandered over to play but I was a bad playmate. 🙂 I got 7 1/2 stitches. Right now, I have a lab mix. He’s not sold on my daughter, but now that she’s learning how to play fetch, I think he’s starting to think she might be okay.

    • Frannie

      March 25, 2014 at 3:55 pm

      All my neighbors kids are afraid of mine because they bark so much. They’ve always just seemed to know that adults are good, and kids are AVOID.

    • Kendra

      March 25, 2014 at 2:55 pm

      One other thing I’d like to say, as someone who is very experienced with animals. PLEASE make it a priority to teach your kids proper animal safety, even if you do not have animals yourself. We used to get kids that would come in, and just run up to any dog to pet it without a care in the world. It is very important to teach your kids not to approach strange animals and to always ask an owner before trying to pet!

    • JLH1986

      March 25, 2014 at 3:05 pm

      All day! Dogs can respond thinking they are protecting themselves or their master and someone can get hurt. Dogs *usually* give off warnings signs (whale eye etc.) but if kids aren’t taught to look for those signs…it can be bad news.

    • Kendra

      March 25, 2014 at 3:07 pm

      It is very true. It’s very helpful to be able to read their behaviors. A lot of bites could be prevented. An unprovoked mauling you can’t really predict, but you can predict simple bites like what I experienced and everyone is happier.

    • Paul White

      March 25, 2014 at 3:39 pm

      Kind of hard to teach your kid how to act around animals though, particularly if you dont have any. I mean, I work with my son on it a lot but that’s cause we have dogs you know? If I didn’t, how much time would he spend around them for me to work him on?

    • NYCNanny

      March 25, 2014 at 4:11 pm

      Point out every single dog you see @ the park or wherever…tell your son that he is NOT to approach dogs he doesn’t know. He NEVER touches any dog without asking both you and the owner first.

    • Ursi

      March 25, 2014 at 4:21 pm

      For those who don’t own dogs, a great place to have safe interactions with dogs, especially larger breeds, is a pet goods store. Many allow people to bring their dogs inside while they shop. That’s a good time to teach a child to always ask the owner for permission before petting a strange dog. Basics like gentle petting, offering a hand to sniff, and avoiding getting close to a dog’s muzzle or staring them down are easily run through with a patient owner. Parents, this is where you are likely to find people who will let their well-behaved dog have friendly interactions with strangers.

    • CrazyFor Kate

      March 25, 2014 at 5:05 pm

      Many people have relatives or friends with pets, though, and there are some places where you tend to find them (parks, etc). Some animal shelters even hold public awareness days or workshops where you can teach kids how to deal with dogs. I vividly remember having them come to my day camp and train us on dog safety.

    • C.J.

      March 25, 2014 at 3:52 pm

      This is why my dog is put in her crate when a child that has never been to my house first comes in the door. I know my dog is great with kids and doesn’t get agitated if kids are running around or randomly run up to her and pet her. I don’t know how other people have taught their kids and I don’t want my dog to be put in a bad situation. All kids that come here are given a talk about the rules at our house for proper behaviour around the animals. I never leave other peoples kids alone with the dog either. There are kids that are not allowed at my house because of how they treat animals. We have had more problems with kids trying to mistreat the cat than the dog though. Kids are often afraid of her until they get to know her because of her size.

    • CrazyFor Kate

      March 25, 2014 at 5:04 pm

      YES. As much as I have sympathy for someone who is injured, parents NEED to know how to help a child behave cautiously around animals, and even then an animal and a child should never be left alone.

    • Kelly

      March 25, 2014 at 3:19 pm

      I know, it’s like when people attack and kill other people but they had a bad childhood, you know? It’s not their fault. We should just find new homes in the general public for them instead of locking them up in prison. I mean, the person they killed was probably not being properly supervised anyways. Just let them go enjoy their lives.

      Now it sounds stupid, doesn’t it?

    • Sherri

      March 25, 2014 at 5:29 pm

      Actually, no. A human has the ability to reason and to act based on rational thought and publicly accepted standards, unless they are feral. Animals, however, react purely on instinct, habit and conditioning. You’re trying to apply logic and rational on an animal that is not capable of such.

      That being said, yes, the dog should be put down.

    • Kelly

      March 26, 2014 at 9:06 am

      Actually, no. A human who has been abused his entire life does not have the ability to reason and act based on rational thought and publicly accepted standards. In cases of severe abuse, victims don’t even know what normal or acceptable behavior is.

      Just like a dog. It’s the same thing.

    • whiteroses

      March 26, 2014 at 11:00 am

      Out of curiosity, though- is what they ended up doing a better option?

  10. JulySheWillFly

    March 25, 2014 at 2:40 pm

    The same reason people are up in arms against Michael Vick, but have no issue rooting for deadbeat dads, wife beaters, athletes with DUIs, etc.

  11. Kai

    March 25, 2014 at 2:42 pm

  12. CMJ

    March 25, 2014 at 2:42 pm

    My dog is the best cuddle puddle of fur that ever lived….but is she mauled a child, she would be put down.

    I don’t care about the breed but I do care about aggressive dogs.

    • Eve Vawter

      March 25, 2014 at 2:43 pm

      NOT BAMA! I would take her. 🙁

    • CMJ

      March 25, 2014 at 2:46 pm

      Really though, Bams would lick you to death before she even thought about biting. We were at at a pet store when Bams was about 2 and child was running rampant. We made Bams sit while the kid pet her and then he started putting his hands in her mouth asking: “does she bite?” God bless her she just sat there with her butt shaking. But we got her out of that situation fast and told him sternly to never put his hands in a dogs mouth.

    • CMJ

      March 25, 2014 at 3:02 pm

      I mean –

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    • TngldBlue

      March 25, 2014 at 3:12 pm

      There are never enough dogs in scarves.

    • CMJ

      March 25, 2014 at 4:14 pm

      Shockingly, she did not hate that scarf.

    • C.J.

      March 25, 2014 at 4:17 pm

      Awww, she is adorable!!

    • pixie

      March 25, 2014 at 4:18 pm

      I tried to put antlers on my boyfriend’s dog when I looked after her and she was all “wtf?” and rolled around on the floor and used her paws to get them off.

    • CMJ

      March 25, 2014 at 4:31 pm

      She only tried to get it off a couple times during the session….I call it a win.

    • Psych Student

      March 25, 2014 at 4:27 pm

      Is that your baby?! She is the *cutest* puppy in the world!!!!!! Oh my god! I can’t get over how cute she is!

    • CMJ

      March 25, 2014 at 4:30 pm

      Thanks!! She’s the best ever. We’re so lucky we found her 🙂

    • Psych Student

      March 25, 2014 at 5:23 pm

      I have a super sweet cat who behaves a lot like a dog (wants to be near her moms, wants to sleep on the bed with us, always needs to know what’s going on, likes everybody) and he gives super good kisses. However, when I get licked all over by puppy tounges, it’s the BEST! They are so soft and velvety. Bama looks like she would give the best lick-bath in the whole world! And she so photogenic. 🙂 (I miss dogs, so this picture and your stories totally made my day!!!)

    • Guest

      March 25, 2014 at 4:35 pm

      This is why my husband messes with all of our dogs to get them used to people touching their ears, nose, mouth, whatever. One is a pitbull mix and you can put your hand all in her mouth she won’t do anything but try to lick it and look at you funny. Teaching on both sides (dogs/kids) is so important.

    • CMJ

      March 25, 2014 at 4:37 pm

      That was about three years ago and we actually still put our hands in her mouth and she just licks away.

  13. TngldBlue

    March 25, 2014 at 2:42 pm

    I love dogs but this one is going to require intensive training and even then there is no guarantee he won’t continue to be aggressive. The decision seems obvious. Sure, it isn’t his fault that the people around him were careless and irresponsible about training and securing him properly and it makes me sad he might lose his life because of it but what makes me far more sad is a little boy is in the hospital & his mother is homeless and jobless.

    • JLH1986

      March 25, 2014 at 3:03 pm

      It’s not a 18 year old kids fault that he grew up bouncing from place to place with not instruction except from gangs. But when he hurts someone we are all for sending him to jail for 20 years. Why are dogs different? I love my dogs. I would move mountains for them, but unprovoked attacks? That’s when all bets are off.

    • Kendra

      March 25, 2014 at 3:04 pm

      I was going to make the same type of analogy.

    • TngldBlue

      March 25, 2014 at 3:08 pm

      When I first read that I thought well one has the ability to reason and the other doesn’t but really, if a kid is growing up without parental guidance, in a violent and/or drug ridden world, no one teaches them how to productively reason either so after arguing with myself for a bit, I agree completely!

  14. Frannie

    March 25, 2014 at 2:44 pm

    I love dogs SO much, but this dog is vicious and dangerous. There is no justification for keeping it alive- if it did this to my child or my dog I would want it put down HUMANELY as soon as possible. Animals don’t understand right from wrong- they act on instinct, and there’s no way to predict that kind of behavior. As far as “all pits” go, I don’t believe all of them are bad- but it’s not a breed I’d personally want around my family. I think it takes a certain kind of person and situation to handle a dog like that, and I am not that person.

  15. keelhaulrose

    March 25, 2014 at 2:53 pm

    I am as big an animal lover as the next person. Between my parents and my family we have two large dogs, one a golden retriever mix, one a German Shepard mix. The golden was severely abused as a young animal (I’ll spare the details), and it’s made her skittish and protective of our family.
    We also live on a property that a lot of people cross through, as it sits between our neighborhood and the nearby convenience store. We let this happen because the only other way there is walking down an extremely busy highway, and we don’t want kids doing that. Having people in the yard occasionally means that they’ll be crossing when the dog is outside. The Shepard is old and lazy and just barks from afar, but the golden gets close and barks, and has growled at people who leave the path to take the quicker way through that involves coming close to the house. We’ve discussed her future with us, and came to the conclusion that if she gets any more hostile we’re going to have to give her up. If she ever hurt someone she’d be put down. We’ve had her nearly eight years, and it’s taken us this long to get her to where she doesn’t completely freak out when there’s a visitor in the house, we’re not going to be able to get violence out if she starts that.

  16. SmrtGrl86

    March 25, 2014 at 2:56 pm

    I am so sick of the dog obsession lately. I have three, I love them dearly but they are still dogs, not people. I have family members who are obsessed with their pets and let them ruin their homes and run their lives. I swear animal obsession is a soft sign of mental illness in some cases.

    • Ursi

      March 25, 2014 at 3:40 pm

      People who love their dogs train them so that they are able to have the full benefit of human interaction and a way to please the owner/family that is the center of their world. Dogs who are given the run of the home without any discipline are neglected animals

    • SmrtGrl86

      March 25, 2014 at 4:11 pm

      So fricken true. Our three all have something that resembles a “job” and it makes them much happier. Our Great Pyrenees lives with and guards the goat herd, the German Shepherd greets visitors, patrols the farm and polices horse fights and the Chi mutt alerts me to anything that makes noise and sleeps on a pillow. They all have a “den” that is theirs for a safety zone where no one is allowed to bother them. Feeding time is not social hour and we do not give food rewards or edible chew toys to limit food based aggression.

    • NYCNanny

      March 25, 2014 at 4:06 pm

      That’s so sweet of you, Smart Girl…thanks for calling me mentally ill.
      I’m “obsessed” with my dogs. They’re my best friends and I’d do anything for them. My DOG literally SAVED MY LIFE last year… when not one PERSON offered to help. (It was a rape, FYI.) I love my dogs and refuse to date or be close friends with anyone who doesn’t like them. I’d move across the world and change careers if it meant staying with my dogs.

      That being said, my dogs are dogs. They are no babied, they are not spoiled. They have been trained and socialized from a very young age and are some of the sweetest animals you’ll ever meet.

      Calling me “mentally ill” is ridiculous.

    • Fireinthefudgehole

      March 25, 2014 at 4:10 pm

      Yeah, I’m pretty obsessed with my dogs too. I’m totally cool with having that “mental illness”.

    • SmrtGrl86

      March 25, 2014 at 4:19 pm

      I said in some cases, we have 3 dogs, 22 goats, 2 horses and a rotating roster of farm cats. Animals are a big part of our lives and take a significant portion of our time. Loving a great companion is not the same thing as obsession. People who hoard animals or let their pets ruin property, relationships or harm others have an obsession and need help. I don’t even mind people who post pics of pets on Facebook, the pets are usually cuter than some of the babies.

    • pixie

      March 25, 2014 at 4:31 pm

      You have 22 goats?! Can I be friends with them? Seriously, I think goats are hilarious and awesome. And ponies. Yay ponies! 😀

    • SmrtGrl86

      March 25, 2014 at 4:35 pm

      We will probably have close to 50 in a month when the 20 females have babies. The babies are the best and they make great friends, as long as you don’t mind being used as a trampoline.

    • pixie

      March 25, 2014 at 4:36 pm

      Aw, that’s adorable!

    • KarenMS

      March 25, 2014 at 6:13 pm

      Perhaps your definition of “obsessed” is different than hers. Because what you just described doesn’t sound like obsession. True obsession with anything is somewhat of an illness.

  17. JLH1986

    March 25, 2014 at 2:58 pm

    I am huge pit bull type dog advocate. I argue about only naming pit bulls as the breed when it’s bad, argue against totally made up statistics, I train pit bull type dogs etc. However, sometimes either through environment or because sometimes there are dogs who are just aggressive (regardless of breed) they simply must be put down. It is sad to put a dog down because it wasn’t trained properly, but if it’s killed a dog, violently attacked others, then that needs to be the option. Because putting it in a kennel or sending it to a rescue where it can’t be with other dogs and humans is cruel too. I’ve had to put a dog down because he suddenly became aggressive (he was a shepherd for the record, since breed is important to some) but he growled and snapped at everyone except me. No amount of training helped. I cuddled him, kissed him, gave him a yummy steak dinner and then had the vet put him to sleep. The babysitter should have kept an eye on the kid better, kids and dogs don’t mix, especially if the dog perceives the child as a threat to its food (the bone). The owners should never have had a violent dog out in an area where it could attack anyone in the home. But after multiple attacks, something is wrong with the dog or his environment and actions need to be taken. The breed of the dog is irrelevant. It’s a dog that has been violent on multiple occasions, even taking the life of another animal. That’s the issue.

    • Diane

      March 25, 2014 at 3:29 pm

      According to the negligent babysitter the dog has attacked before.Also the dog was on a chain in his yard. If a responsible person had been looking after the little boy this wouldn’t have happened.Do you let 3 year old kids roam around on the street by themselves? How much have you bleeding hearts donated for the child? ZERO.

    • whiteroses

      March 25, 2014 at 3:32 pm

      If I had the money to donate, I would. I don’t at this moment. And if the dog has attacked someone before, they need to be put down. Once a dog shows aggressive behaviors, they need intensive retraining. Yes, Kevin shouldn’t have been wandering around alone. But there’s no reason why a 4 year old should have lost an eye. None.

      I have a cousin who raises pit bulls. She requires everyone who gets a dog from her to take a dog safety course. As she says, “If they can’t bother to take a safety course, they’re not going to put in the effort it takes to train the bully properly.”

    • C.J.

      March 25, 2014 at 10:26 pm

      Dog safety courses are a great idea. Not just for pit bulls but for all breeds. Not everyone knows how to train/care for a dog properly. When we got our dog I took her to puppy school so I would know how to properly train her. If everyone was required to take a dog safety course it might help weed out the people that shouldn’t own dogs.

    • whiteroses

      March 26, 2014 at 10:57 am

      I completely agree. Owning dogs is a lot like parenting. If you can’t put in the time and effort it takes, you shouldn’t have either a dog or a kid.

    • JLH1986

      March 25, 2014 at 3:36 pm

      Actually since you ask. I did donate based on the link Tinyfaeri posted. And if you read my post I also said the dog needed to be euthanized based on his past behavior. The owners shouldn’t have a dog that bites and the babysitter should have been more careful if she knew there was a vicious dog on the property. I’m not suggesting she be stoned to death. Kids are quick and sneaky. The dog attacked multiple times, at this point I don’t think the dog is safe. It’s not clear if the dog had issues or if the environment caused the behavior but he’s a danger, that’s clear.

    • keelhaulrose

      March 25, 2014 at 9:41 pm

      If the dog has attacked before, even if provoked, that should be a red-flag for the owner that something like this might happen in the future. The babysitter was negligent, but so were the owners. If that dog had gotten free and done this to the kids on their property would this even be a debate?
      A dangerous dog needs to be contained in such a way that it can’t get to people AND people can’t get to it. If the owners can’t/won’t contain the animal it needs to be taken care of, and perhaps dangerous dogs shouldn’t be going to just any old person off the street.

    • Kat

      March 25, 2014 at 3:40 pm

      No one else needs to comment on this blog post, but you. Unbiased & professional. Now we just need everyone to read this lol.

    • Psych Student

      March 25, 2014 at 4:19 pm

      That was very well said, thank you. I think the reason my heart goes out to the dog so much is that people will use this to suggest that all pit bulls are dangerous and should be put down, which is just not true (and exactly the point you made!). It just hurts to think that people often can’t distinguish between a *dog* that did something wrong and a *breed* that did something wrong.

    • JLH1986

      March 26, 2014 at 8:50 am

      It’s hard. I spend a lot of time arguing it’s this dog not every dog of that breed. But some people don’t get it. Pit Bull type dogs in general score very highly on temperament testing, trainability etc. But there are people who just don’t want to hear that, they want to hear that a whole breed is evil etc. that’s just not the case.

    • K.

      March 25, 2014 at 4:43 pm

      I very much agree with you.

      “Pit bull” is sadly, an inflammatory headline and nothing more.

      The individual dog is the point, not the ‘breed.’

  18. Jennifer Freeman

    March 25, 2014 at 3:11 pm

    When my daughter was around 2, she stayed overnight at my Mom’s house. At some point my Mom left her and the dog alone (bad idea, obviously) and the dog knocked my daughter down and bit her in the face. She didn’t have much damage, just needed some butterfly sutures, but you can bet your ass I reported the bite and the dog was put down. There were definitely some hurt feelings on my Mom’s and sister’s part, but it didn’t matter to me. Unfortunately, the dog wasn’t properly trained and clearly viewed my child (and potentially other small humans) as something he could attack. I love dogs a ridiculous amount, but if a dog is attacking unprovoked, it is unsafe to keep them around.
    ETA: My daughter grew up in my home with dogs and definitely wasn’t provoking the dog. She was taught how to interact with animals.

    • Guest

      March 26, 2014 at 2:14 am

      Just had to comment somewhere in here…at least in my county, if you have a dog bit treated at the hospital, they are REQUIRED to report it, by law. Here, though, one bite will not get a dog put down if it has had it’s shots.

      My own miniature Dachshund, GingerSnap, has a bite record with the police department in my town, because I, like an idiot, broke up an argument between her and my Basset Hound by grabbing her. Not a huge bite, but deep enough I couldn’t get the bleeding to stop and needed something more effective than Band-Aids. The nurse actually tried to talk me out of getting treated at the hospital so my dog wouldn’t be reported. I said, she’s got her shots, it’s the first time, and since it was my own dog, the officer basically shrugged it off.

      GingerSnap is never, and never will be, left alone with children. Even if it means I have to make some hard decisions down the road.

  19. Jen Hassenpflug

    March 25, 2014 at 3:12 pm

    This was a confusing story when it first came out, in the picture I first saw I thought the dog was secured by a rope or chain, and also inside a fenced in yard. If that was the case then, absolutely the babysitter shares some responsibility in this. The owners defiantly have some responsibly in this. I have sympathy for both the child AND the dog equally, it is neither of their faults; it is tragic all the way around.That doesn’t make me a sick person. I accept that this dog will be put down, but I can still be sad for mickey without diminishing the sadness I also feel for the child.

  20. whiteroses

    March 25, 2014 at 3:16 pm

    Most pittys are wonderful dogs. But if a dog- any dog, regardless of breed- isn’t properly trained and looked after, it will react badly.
    A dear friend of mine has an Anatolian Shepherd. For anyone who’s never seen them, they’re the size of a horse and have extremely powerful jaws.

    • NYCNanny

      March 25, 2014 at 4:14 pm

      Yep!! My neighbor let her kid go up to a Golden Retriever @ the park a few months ago and pet it without asking owners first… Kid got bit and had to get stitches. Neighbor said she “thought it would be fine because it’s a Golden and they’re so friendly.” Whaaat? No!!!

      PS: This neighbor refuses to let her kids near my dogs… one is part pit, and other is part boxer… both literally THE FRIENDLIEST, more gentle dogs you’ll ever meet. But they’re part pit/boxer, so breed-ism.

    • whiteroses

      March 25, 2014 at 9:15 pm

      In fairness, I don’t let my kid near a dog, or a cat, that I don’t know. And I’d never leave him alone with any animal unsupervised. I don’t care what their breed is. I’ve known my friend’s Anatolian Shepherd for years, and I’d still never let my son approach her on his own. It’s partially to protect my son, but it’s also for the dog’s protection. I love her and I love my friends, and I’d never want to put either of them in a bad place.

    • C.J.

      March 25, 2014 at 11:34 pm

      I have a boxer and I don’t get too many random people that come up and want to pet her either unless they are familiar with boxers. When I walk her people cross the street when they see her coming. I understand why, she is bigger than the average boxer. She is just a great big suck and super gentle. I love boxers. That is her in my profile picture all wrapped up on her bed with her pillow and blanky. Someone played cruel joke on her, she wanted to be little enough to be a lap dog. I have known a few pits too and they were super gentle. Any dog can be good or bad depending on how they are trained.

    • pixie

      March 26, 2014 at 10:28 am

      If I saw your dog I’d probably approach you and ask if I could pet her, but I love big dogs that look slightly ferocious (though boxers don’t really look all that ferocious in my opinion, but perhaps I’ve just known a lot so I’m biased). 😛

    • C.J.

      March 26, 2014 at 1:01 pm

      Miley would love it if people would come pet her. I don’t think boxers are scary looking either. Even when she is happy she looks pathetic most of the time because of her droopy mouth and eyes. When she is sad she actually sticks her bottom lip out and pouts.

    • pixie

      March 26, 2014 at 1:04 pm

      My boyfriend’s dog does that. She also sulks when she doesn’t get her way. It’s hilarious.
      She’s a bull dog/boxer cross, so bigger, more bull dog-like head, but still similar.

    • C.J.

      March 26, 2014 at 10:13 pm

      She sounds like a character, I love dogs with personality!

    • pixie

      March 27, 2014 at 7:36 am

      Here’s a hilarious picture of her. Her droopy bits all flop down when she lays on her back so we took a picture and flipped it. It looks like a giant grin.

    • C.J.

      March 27, 2014 at 11:17 am

      That is hilarious!!! She is so cute! She definitely has the bull dog face. I love dogs with droopy faces, though Miley’s face isn’t that droopy! Next time my husband complains about her droopy slobery face I show him the picture of your boyfriends dog’s face.

    • pixie

      March 27, 2014 at 11:21 am

      Aw, she’s cute.

    • C.J.

      March 27, 2014 at 11:31 am

      Thanks, she is our big baby 🙂

  21. kayrene

    March 25, 2014 at 3:20 pm

    wow yhu so cute

  22. Ursi

    March 25, 2014 at 3:24 pm

    I’m a dog lover and I prefer pets to people most of the time, full disclaimer.

    This dog needs to be put down. I have a lot of sympathy for the animal but rehabilitation is something to be done before the animal mauls or kills someone. Whenever a pet dog attacks a human being it is 100% the fault of another human. Always with no exceptions. It is either the fault of the victim or the fault of the owner. In this case it is the fault of the owner. If you own a dog that dangerous it is your responsibility to keep that dog away from other people. If a 4 year old could wander into the yard then the yard is not secure. Now the family and the child pay the price for the owner’s negligence and so does the dog. It’s sad but it’s the way it is.

    I too think pitt bulls get a bad rep unfairly but that has nothing to do with the story.

    • Mss

      March 25, 2014 at 3:52 pm

      ” If a 4 year old could wander into the yard then the yard is not secure”

      Right on!

  23. Sam Inoue

    March 25, 2014 at 3:24 pm

    Ugh this is awful. This dog doesn’t deserve sympathy, it almost killed a child and the family who owned it knew what the right thing to do was. I can’t believe people would defend it. The breed has nothing to do with the fact that this dog is a monster. I had a good friend who put down her dog because it her niece, it latched onto her leg and mauled it pretty bad, it was a shiba inu who are normally kind but it was just skiddy dog who couldn’t deal with kids. No one thought it was a bad choice, everyone said there had to be something wrong with the dog. Its odd to me because of the negative association with pit bulls that when one does something wrong everyone gets defensive, this isn’t about pit bulls in general its one dog. No one thought my friend’s dog represented her whole breed, neither should this one.

  24. C.J.

    March 25, 2014 at 3:25 pm

    I love my dog. She is a 100 lb boxer. If she showed aggression I would not hesitate to put her down. If she ever bit a child she would be going to the vet immediately. As much as I love my dog I wouldn’t put other people in danger because for her. I do feel bad for the dog because it obviously wasn’t trained properly. Feeling bad for the dog has nothing to do with whether or not it should be put down. I feel much worse for the child. People shouldn’t own dogs they aren’t willing to train and can’t handle. I knew my dog would be able to physically overpower a person when she was full grown, she is very strong. I spent hours training her when she was a pup and still spend time on training. Having a dog is a big responsibility and people who can’t handle the responsibility shouldn’t be allowed to own them.

  25. Paul White

    March 25, 2014 at 3:47 pm

    I reserve the right to feel sympathy for who/whatever I damn well please. That doesn’t mean I don’t feel the dog should probably be put down, but the dog isn’t a moral agent and I’m not going to castigate it.
    People, if you have a dog with bitey tendencies train it and keep it in the back yard/house. Parents/babysitters, don’t let your charges get into someone else’s yard and bother their pets. This situation sucks all around, particularly for the poor kid

    • keelhaulrose

      March 25, 2014 at 9:46 pm

      When I was looking to adopt a dog the people asked what kind of yard we had. I told them we had a fenced-in yard, but one of the fences was low and might easily be jumped.
      They told us a few dogs would be off-limits to us unless we got a taller fence because they had shown some aggression in the past/tried to bite/bitten. They required those animals to go to people with fences/gates, not just a tie down in the back yard. Even if the dog was going to be a ‘house dog’ we were required to have an outdoor fenced area for these dogs, all in the name of public safety.

      I LOVED that policy.

  26. TwentiSomething Mom

    March 25, 2014 at 4:02 pm

    With all of the money spent on trying to save the dog, that money could go to helping that poor boy and his family.

  27. Fireinthefudgehole

    March 25, 2014 at 4:06 pm

    Even beyond how awful it is that they care more about saving the dog than helping the boy, couldn’t their money be better spent by helping sweet shelter dogs who haven’t mauled children?

    • Guest

      March 25, 2014 at 4:39 pm

      This was my thought. I love and adore my dogs and would go to the ends of the Earth for them and I do, quite frankly, like them more and care more about them then most people. That being said, this was horrific and there is really no way around it so I’d be spending my time with my pup and then I would donate some money so that other dogs could be saved in my dog’s memory.

  28. Guest

    March 25, 2014 at 5:00 pm

    I wish these comments whose first line is “I love animals, but kill this one” would just stop. As others have pointed out, feeling sympathy one way does not negate your ability to sympathize the other direction at the same time. Personally, I think it’s awful that someone was hurt. However, I have more sympathy for the long-term, now homeless, abuse victim who may be killed, than the short-term assault victim who is alive, going to keep being alive, and has a team of medical professionals backing them. It doesn’t seem so “sick” when you focus on what actually happened, now, does it?

    • Heidi

      March 25, 2014 at 5:03 pm

      All “victims” are not created equally. Sorry – human children trump dogs. Especially PRESCHOOLER human children. Seriously. Seriously.

    • meteor_echo

      March 25, 2014 at 7:15 pm

      I never understood the age bracket logic. The older they get, the more useless and unimportant they become?

    • Heidi

      March 26, 2014 at 6:31 am

      No – it is just the opposite. The YOUNGER they are, the more INNOCENT, HELPLESS, IMMATURE, and IN NEED OF PROTECTION FROM THESE VISCIOUS MONSTERS. A 13 year old getting mauled is still bad, but people would argue that he/she might have had more sense to not pull away a bone from a dog, for example. A 4 year old – not so much.

    • meteor_echo

      March 26, 2014 at 1:58 pm

      CAN you STOP typing IN CAPS PlEaSe? It’s irritating and makes you sound like you’re shouting every other word – and it definitely doesn’t add to getting your point across. Also defining the need for protection as the prime importance-defining feature is… gross. Even if it was a 13-year-old, I doubt they’d be able to protect themselves from an angry, snarling dog.

    • Heidi

      March 26, 2014 at 6:47 pm

      SO SORRY THE CAPS UPSET YOU! DON’T LIKE BEING YELLED AT HUH? SO MANY IDIOTS MAKING COMMENTS THAT IT SEEMS THEY DO NEED TO BE YELLED AT!

    • meteor_echo

      March 26, 2014 at 6:55 pm

      Oh honey, if only there was somebody who taught you how to be passive aggressive without looking like a frazzled nutcase, and a deaf one, too. And to keep the discussion flowing, while we’re at that.

    • Sara

      March 25, 2014 at 5:10 pm

      Didn’t the kid lose an eye? And he’s gonna have to deal with the trauma for the rest of his life. Getting mauled by a dog isn’t something you just bounce back from.

    • whiteroses

      March 25, 2014 at 6:31 pm

      Yep. Medical professionals who were so traumatized when they saw Kevin’s face that they had to have psychiatric care later on. A little boy who doesn’t even want his own mother to look at him. A mother trying to take care of her half blind son without a job or a home.

      Kevin TOTALLY got the great end of that deal.

    • Ursi

      March 25, 2014 at 7:09 pm

      How can you make that comparison? Loving animals doesn’t entail keeping all animals alive at all costs. Putting the dog down isn’t an act of vengeance. I feel sorry for the dog but that doesn’t affect my thinking about the decision. This is about weighing the value of his life against the possibility that he’ll maim or kill another person and against the quality of life he will live from now on. Animals are not people and they cannot all be rehabilitated. We don’t put down dangerous dogs because we hate them. Someone or a succession of someones condemned this dog to die by creating or abetting his violent tendencies. Yes, people are responsible. And that’s why the tragedy is that the dog is the one who suffers because his owner didn’t do right by him.
      But that doesn’t change the fact that dog is dangerous.

  29. CrazyFor Kate

    March 25, 2014 at 5:14 pm

    It’s kind of over-the-top to call people “sick” for having sympathy for both sides. The dog is a danger and needs to be put down, but it’s like a bear that wandered too close to humans – people have mistreated an animal (even with good intentions) and caused it to become such a danger. Seriously, quit with the ridiculous headlines.

  30. Lackadaisical

    March 25, 2014 at 5:18 pm

    I personally would take my own adorable and beloved dog to the vets to be put down if she ever attacked a child. I also would never have a dog that wasn’t totally friendly and trustworthy loose in a front garden that was accessible to wandering small children and small dogs. If my dog was aggressive I would have it locked behind a gate and walk it muzzled (which would serve as a warning for people to stay away as much as protection). Yes, that may be harsh and cruel to the dog but as much as I love dogs the safety of people (and other, gentler dogs) comes first.

  31. anon87

    March 25, 2014 at 5:20 pm

    I volunteer with a group that rescues animals in my city, and also help people pay vet bills. I’ve seen and heard a lot of stories of abuse. Animals, not just dogs, have so many uses that benefit humans (therapy, seeing eye dogs, search and rescue, etc.), and yet people still mistreat them. My opinion of animals is a lot higher than some humans that I know, and just because someone is human doesn’t mean their life has more value than an animals, to me anyway. Take for example, the person who abused and threw their puppy (now my adopted dog) out of a moving car.
    I wish the child in this case hadn’t gotten bit, and I also wish Mickey was loved and trained properly. The child didn’t deserve this, and the dog deserved better owners/training. If all options are exhausted and the dog still shows aggression, then it’s safer for everyone (dog included) to be euthanized. But that starts with responsible owners.
    I am amazed though at the number of adults that think it’s okay to let their kid walk over to a random dog and start petting it and getting in it’s face. I had my dog at the park one day and a guy comes over with his one-year old daughter and said “Anna, do you want to kiss the dog?” I told him that was not a good idea because she would likely growl at her being too close and then all of a sudden I’m the bad guy.

    • pixie

      March 25, 2014 at 5:27 pm

      My grandmother had dogs while I was growing up and I was taught how to behave around them and make sure to give them lots of space. They were great dogs, properly trained, and not at all aggressive (especially towards kids). That being said, I don’t know of anything, animal or even a human, that enjoys having someone’s face right up in theirs. I was taught not to do that, but I was an idiot one time and put my face in the face of one of the dogs anyways when she wasn’t expecting it. The dog scratched me down the cheek (it wasn’t hard and didn’t draw blood). My parents and my grandparents told me it was my own fault, and I agreed with them.

      And this was after I’d already done the same thing with a cat after being told not to stick my face in the cat’s face….*sigh* I was stupid (and about 4 or 5), but I only did it once with the cat and once with the dog and it was completely my fault both times for aggravating the animals.

    • MerlePerle

      March 26, 2014 at 8:59 am

      My dog has snapped at random kids before for petting her from behind. Don’t people ask before approaching a dog anymore? My kids know not to touch an animal unless it’s specifically allowed. That rule is for their safety as much as the animal’s. I thought that was prettybasic stuff to teach kids.

    • Mystik Spiral

      March 26, 2014 at 12:07 pm

      And some people here wouldn’t rest until your dog was killed, it seems.

      No, our special snowflakes are too special to be expected to deal with rules, and asking for permission, and whatnot. Our special snowflakes get to do what they want when they want, and if you say no, well, you just hate children, don’t you???

      /sarcasm

    • MerlePerle

      March 26, 2014 at 1:51 pm

      I really don’t think that’s what anybody’s saying, though. Snapping out of fear? That’s the human’s fault for not respecting the dog’s space. Showing aggression without being provoked? Sorry, but that is a legitimite reason for putting even the most beloved dog down.

    • whiteroses

      March 26, 2014 at 3:45 pm

      I agree completely. We don’t know what caused Mickey to maul Kevin- but if USA Today is right, all Kevin did was walk within the radius of the chain. I’m sorry, but I don’t think that deserved permanent disfigurement.

    • MerlePerle

      March 26, 2014 at 1:51 pm

      I really don’t think that’s what anybody’s saying, though. Snapping out of fear? That’s the human’s fault for not respecting the dog’s space. Showing aggression without being provoked? Sorry, but that is a legitimite reason for putting even the most beloved dog down.

    • Guest

      March 26, 2014 at 12:23 pm

      My husband was bit by the family dog when he was a kid and needed stitches on his chin. His mom actually punished him for it because he broke the rules about aggravating/provoking the dog. lol
      He is a huge dog lover by the way, so it’s not like it scarred him for life or anything.

  32. dj

    March 25, 2014 at 5:45 pm

    So, what side are people on? I hear some reasonable thinking but not enough. This is a perfect maybe the best example of irresponsibility, where are all of the adults? Lets be frank about this, people ask why terrible things happen, this is why, adults are nowhere to be found. And what violent history does it have? Killing a dog Thats it, and How did that happen. Staff’s are naturally aggressive but trained the right way the aggression isnt bad. Many things need to be considered, was the dog hit? Yes. How long is it chained up?, does it socialize with other dogs? with people? What kind of neighborhood do they live in? and.. oh Yeah and do four year olds have supervision.The owner needs to grow some b*lls and do whats right.others need to tone down their extreme thought process in regarding people and animals and be more civilized. Stand for something.

  33. K

    March 25, 2014 at 5:59 pm

    Caring more for an animal than a child is not sick. Maybe people are caring more for this dog than the child and his mother cause people tend to lie, dogs don’t. I tend to side with animals more than people cause they will always show their true intentions. Maybe this dog was aggresive or maybe this kid had terrible behaviour and was annoying the dog and the dog did only what it could to make the dog stop. Maybe the mom/ sitter knew the dog was aggresive and still did not watch the child properly. We will never know cause the mother will always tell HER side but we will never hear the other side

    • Guest

      March 25, 2014 at 6:10 pm

      I would agree if it had just been a bite.

    • K

      March 25, 2014 at 6:25 pm

      eh, honestly this world is too crowded with people, it sucks for kid that he has lost and eye and almost died but……. well shit happened when your young and stupid, it even shittier that it didn’t happen to the sitter who is even more stupid and has no excuse.

    • whiteroses

      March 25, 2014 at 6:26 pm

      You can’t be serious. You just can’t.
      He’s FOUR. How smart were you at the age of four?

    • guest

      March 25, 2014 at 6:28 pm

      Vicious dogs should be kept alive to lower the population? What?

    • K

      March 25, 2014 at 6:46 pm

      I never said he should be kept alive, and I was stupid too but I got lucky cause my parents never left with even dumber people. Look, whether you believe in a higher power or not shit happens for reasons and both sides are at fault which the mother should acknowledge instead of blame a dog for all her problems. I feel more for the dog cause he doesn’t have a say in this situation but seriously this kid and mother should be more happy that he is alive and will be able to function just fine for the rest of his life as well as the learn from their mistake.

    • whiteroses

      March 25, 2014 at 6:50 pm

      I just can’t with you. So I’ll let Tom Hanks say it for me.

    • whiteroses

      March 25, 2014 at 6:27 pm

      If he hadn’t lost his eye and he and his mother weren’t homeless, maybe I’d agree. But as it is, I don’t have a lot of sympathy.

      Mickey will live, so you can rest easy with that- but he’ll live in a facility for the rest of his life. Nobody will ever be able to adopt him. Considering the price a kid paid for his aggression, I’d say that’s fair. Putting him down would probably have been kinder.

    • k

      March 25, 2014 at 7:00 pm

      It would’ve been kinder to euthanize him you’re right. And just as you don’t have a lot of sympathy towards the dog that does what most animals would do to something/one new coming into their territory I just don’t have sympathy for the child and his mother. I’m sorry but if it were not for humans just assuming that everything is theirs to control and when they don’t respect other life for what and how they are then we are at fault. This whole situation continues to happen due to human error, the owner did not train that dog properly and the list goes on but the dog did what any animal would have done.

    • whiteroses

      March 25, 2014 at 7:03 pm

      But that doesn’t mean he gets a free pass to possibly do it again.

      You’re wrong. I am sympathetic towards Mickey. But I’m also seeing this as a mother. You can’t keep your eye on a kid 24/7, and yeah, Kevin should have been watched better. But he didn’t deserve what he got. And if Mickey has a history of aggression (which it seems he does) then he needs to be put down.

    • K

      March 25, 2014 at 7:10 pm

      I hate that whole excuse of ” as a mother”. Well guess what your a human being first and sure kids are great but we as humans have to take more responsibility for our behaviours. I know kids take off real fast and can disappear in a second but when they do you hope that you have given them some good training to save themselves. If they do not make it …….. natural selection.

    • whiteroses

      March 25, 2014 at 7:12 pm

      It’s not an excuse. A mother is who I am. I wonder if you’d be able to say this if it was your child.

      Frankly, “natural selection” is an excuse too. Just because a kid gets mauled by an animal doesn’t make it “natural selection”, any more than a kid getting shot by another human being makes it “natural selection”.

      We’re done. Thanks for the “debate”.

    • K

      March 25, 2014 at 7:17 pm

      haha, your right natural selection is an excuse guess I just don’t like humans, myself included and can’t wait for the apes to take over and make us their bitches

  34. Joe

    March 25, 2014 at 6:07 pm

    And what about prosecuting the dumb bitch who was supposed to be watching the poor kid for neglect and endangerment? I suppose it’s the stove’s fault when your kid reaches up and touches it too huh? Give me a fucking break. I feel terrible for the little boy, and IF Mickey has a history of violence that can be PROVEN by anything other than hearsay, he needs to be euthanized. However, if not, this needs to be called what it is- a terrible set of circumstances brought about by an improperly trained animal AND a reckless baby sitter

  35. Annie Jirosky

    March 25, 2014 at 6:15 pm

    Mickey is not getting euthanize—judge just ordered that he is to be “neutered, defanged, microchipped and live in a facility where he will never be adopted” http://www.abc15.com/news/region-phoenix-metro/central-phoenix/mickey-arizona-dog-judge-to-decide-fate-on-pit-bull-who-attacked-phoenix-boy

    • Guest

      March 25, 2014 at 6:20 pm

      Gee, what a quality life he’ll live.

    • whiteroses

      March 25, 2014 at 6:20 pm

      Oddly enough, I’m ok with this. If these people want him to live so damn much, they can take care of him for the rest of his life. He doesn’t need to be in a situation where he can ever hurt someone or something else, ever again.

      I wonder which one is crueler, though- being put down or having to live in an institution where he doesn’t have a heck of a lot of human contact ever again. Euthanasia, in a dog’s case, would probably be kinder.

    • Angela

      March 25, 2014 at 6:37 pm

      I think it’s a shame. The dog will live out a miserable existence and with the money it takes to kennel him throughout his live could have been spent helping pets who have futures get adopted. We are already euthanizing over 5,000 dogs per day in this country, many of whom are not aggressive and could have found homes if they’d been given more time. But instead we’d rather funnel a whole bunch of resources into condemning ONE dog to years of misery? This makes zero sense to me.

    • whiteroses

      March 25, 2014 at 8:41 pm

      I think it’s a shame too- but the people who were plugging for him to live so hard are getting exactly what they wanted. That’s the only reason why I’m ok with it. That, and the fact that he’ll never be able to hurt anyone again. I think the judge realistically did the only thing she could do.

      No living being deserves what he’s about to get. No matter what they’ve done. I hope those people who were so up in arms about his basic goodness are proud of themselves.

    • Ursi

      March 25, 2014 at 6:53 pm

      I don’t know what a facility like that would be like but if it involves a lot of time in a confined space with minimal human contact I’d rather he be put down. Being neutered, defanged, and microchipped are all fine with me. Having to live out his life in a shelter with no chance to be adopted? Put that dog to sleep. Don’t demolish it’s quality of life.

      All the people clamoring for this dog to live– go out to a shelter and save an animal fated to be put down. That’s a milllion times more helpful than what’s been bought with their time and effort.

    • thisshortenough

      March 25, 2014 at 7:41 pm

      Well I used to volunteer in a no-kill shelter here in Dublin so I imagine it would be something like that. The dogs all have free runs together, adoptable and non. They kept some dogs until they die or until they have to be put down for health reasons. http://dogsaid.ie/ For instance one of their forever dogs there is called Granny. We were warned when we first joined to just leave her be, she wasn’t sociable and would likely bite. Only the woman in charge of the whole place was able to handle her. But they kept her alive because she’s a healthy dog.

  36. Shrimpy

    March 25, 2014 at 6:28 pm

    Why do we have to “pick sides”? Why can’t it be both? I feel EQUALLY sad for the child and the dog. As much as some people don’t want to hear it- the dog is also a victim. Dogs don’t attack for no reason. If you look at dog attack cases you will see some sort of bad training down the line. I’m not saying that the choice to euthanize him isn’t the right one (because it is), but there should be compassion for him, too. It’s neither the fault of the child or the fault of the dog, but they are the ones who suffer most.

    • whiteroses

      March 25, 2014 at 6:28 pm

      I’m plenty compassionate for him. But he gets to keep both his eyes.

    • Kelly

      March 26, 2014 at 9:09 am

      Equally sad… one of the creatures you feel equal sadness is in perfect health and has no pain. The other lost an eye, has gone through a nearly unimaginable amount of pain, 5 1/2 hours of surgery and will live with the effects of this attack for the rest of his life.

      But, equally sad… Yeah, you just seem like a total piece of shit to me.

  37. Angela

    March 25, 2014 at 6:31 pm

    I do have sympathy for the dog who obviously had owners that neglected to train it and address previous aggressive behavior. I also have sympathy for the child and his family and even for the babysitter. Yes, she should have been watching him better but I can’t imagine having to live with that kind of guilt. I do think that it’s tragic that this dog needs to be put down. Most likely if the owners had given him proper care and attention this would never have happened.

    However, the people pushing to save this dog need to keep things in perspective. This dog will never, ever be safe to be adopted or to be around people (and possibly not around other dogs either). Saving him would basically amount to kenneling him forever. Every day in this country we euthanize thousands of non-agressive dogs who actually do have the potential for a future. The amount of resources it would take to kennel this one dangerous animal for life could literally save thousands of pet lives if it were put toward helping shelters giving adoptable pets more time to find forever homes.

    • whiteroses

      March 25, 2014 at 6:32 pm

      They apparently chose to kennel him for life.

  38. Annie Jirosky

    March 25, 2014 at 7:01 pm

    When I was somewhere in the age range of 2-3 my family owned a Golden retriever- my dad had trained him with several simple commands and from what I recall and accounts from family a very loyal and pretty sweet dog. One day I was on the porch with the dog and I was playing in a box, I don’t have clear memories of what all went down other then the dog bit me on my hand (I recall my hand being on the corner edge of the box when he bit me, I may have been trying to climb into our out of the box and fallen on the dog or pulled on the dog? I don’t know, but something provoked this dog )–it did not break skin but was deep enough to leave teeth impressions in my skin and make me cry. My dad walked onto the porch, inspected my hand, wiped my tears, walked back into the house, came back out on the porch, grabbed the dog and got in his truck. I recall my mom somewhat numbly saying that the dog was not coming back.

    To this day my understanding is that my dad took his gun and the dog to the desert and “took care of it.”

    I have always felt horrible about it. On one level, my dad was very protective of his small daughter and even the slightest threat from his beloved dog was removed. On the other hand- that my dad who really cherished that dog, didn’t think twice about ending its life over something that I may have inadvertently caused as stumbling child.

    This dog Mickey did significant damage to a child, regardless of if he was provoked or not, the owners wanted him put down- that’s what should have happened.

    Sounds like Sheriff Joe here in AZ wants Mickey to come live at Tent City with the inmates…guess that would fit the criteria of “facility to never be adopted again”

    ———-

    There has to be more to the story about the family losing their home, (if that is true)- the eviction process is several weeks long here in AZ- this attack occurred on Feb 20th and if she just quit her job as a housekeeper at a motel recently to care for her son then she must have already been behind on rent and in danger of losing her home. She did not lose her home over this incident- it may have added to an already struggling situation but the ordeal is tragic enough without sensationalizing it to make it seem worse.

    My understanding is that she may also be here as undocumented- she has 2 other children “back at home” Kevin is likely an anchor child born here with all medical related bills being covered by the Arizona Health Care Cost Containment System which he would have been immediately enrolled in at the emergency room when he was taken in if he was not already on the system. Online accounts for the family have statements such as “we do not have a bank account because honestly we do not know how to open one” – I would only donate to what appears to be a legitimate fund set up by Maricopa Health foundation- such as https://maricopahealthfoundation.org/civicrm/contribute/transact?reset=1&id=14 if you want to support them.

    In the circle of “who is more to blame” since there is never ever tragic accidents (someone HAS to be to blame) yu can point to the dog, the babysitter, the dog owners, the child–but you can also add the idea that perhaps it never would have happened if she had not come here illegally to begin with.

    • SarahJesness

      March 25, 2014 at 7:04 pm

      Assuming she is here illegally like you believe, well, I doubt anything would’ve been different if she was here legally. I rather doubt that the dog attacked the child because he hates illegals and their children.

    • Annie Jirosky

      March 26, 2014 at 2:40 am

      Not the point of me bringing up the illegal status. I brought it up to run the full gamut of blame. The original “crime” is being in a place you are not supposed to be in. Had that original crime not occurred this tragedy may not have either. Just like someone driving without a license and causing an accident. . They should never have been in the driver seat to begin with. .. like wise she should not have been here illegally putting her and her child’s life path on a trajectory towards this event. It may have eventually been someone else that Mickey mauled. If there had to be blame placed why not on mom’s first illegal act that put them anywhere near this dog.

    • whiteroses

      March 27, 2014 at 7:27 am

      This might be a stretch, but I’m assuming that if Kevin was a white, blonde haired little girl you wouldn’t be spouting off about illegals. A dog doesn’t care about your immigration status. And amazingly enough, it doesn’t really matter if she’s here illegally. What matters is the fact that this dog mauled a child. Despite the color of his skin and his mother’s status, Kevin is still a child.

    • whiteroses

      March 25, 2014 at 7:05 pm

      It’s got nothing to do with Kevin’s mom being illegal or not. A dog doesn’t ask about your immigration status before it bites you.

    • K.

      March 25, 2014 at 7:13 pm

      Yes, but clearly, illegals are the root of all problems.

      Thanks, Obama.

  39. Nan

    March 25, 2014 at 8:02 pm

    1) Resource guarding is a completely natural dog behavior. http://ahimsadogtraining.com/blog/resource-guarding/ While it is totally natural, it IS an unsafe behavior that responsible owners would address with a qualified behavior professional.

    2) Dogs who are on their own property are allowed to chew bones, even if they resource guard. The fact that the child was attacked is completely the fault of the person who LET A 4 YEAR OLD WANDER AWAY. Dogs cannot be expected to only guard resources against people who can defend themselves. Many dogs are uncomfortable with children, and this stress is compounded when the child is trying to take a bone from them _in their own yard._ The fact that this situation ended the way it did should be no surprise to anyone. It’s a tragedy, but it was a completely predictable and avoidable tragedy.

    3) “A pit bull mauled a four-year-old boy last month as he and his friend were playing in the yard.” A dog mauled a four year old. A DOG. You are using the dog’s supposed breed to try to leverage stereotypes and latent prejudices to make people agree with you. That’s stupid and wrong. Stop it.

    4) A dog who mauls someone should be euthanized. It doesn’t matter what kind of dog it is.

  40. C.J.

    March 25, 2014 at 8:06 pm

    To thisshortenough I tried to reply to your original comment and your second comment and couldn’t. I replied with I don’t think of a dog giving a warning bark or growl as aggression. I expect my dog to bark or growl to communicate when she is uncomfortable or scared. By being aggressive I mean inappropriate behaviour like viciously trying to attack. If she became I danger to people I would put her down to protect people.

  41. timothy bullard

    March 25, 2014 at 8:30 pm

    I guess I’m “sick” because I don’t see how the poor dog is any more guilty than that silly child…

    would you kill you child if he got in a fight at school and hurt a classmate?

    • whiteroses

      March 25, 2014 at 10:10 pm

      You’re making a comparison between a child and an animal- an animal can’t reason the way a child can. An animal by and large won’t be able make the connection between “I did this, and it didn’t turn out so well last time, so I shouldn’t do it again” unless they’re trained against a specific behavior. They’re more likely to think, “MUST DEFEND!” and then do that. If an animal has hurt a human, or killed another animal, they need to be euthanized.

      A child can (for the most part) be reasoned with. They can make connections and understand cause and effect the way an animal would never be able to. Also, a child is highly unlikely to maul someone to the extent that they become blind. It’s a bad analogy, frankly. If a grown man had done this to a child, you’d all be baying for his blood. Why does Mickey get a free pass because he’s a dog?

      A dog will always be, at its heart, a wild animal no matter how much you socialize it. We take them into their homes, we love them, they love us, we give them names, they learn tricks, but they’ll always be able to bite to defend themselves. If you’re going to respect and love a dog, that respect and love has to come with the knowledge that no matter its size, a dog can and will use deadly force to defend itself if it feels threatened enough.

  42. Sheesh2645

    March 25, 2014 at 9:00 pm

    Why can’t there be sympathy for both the dog and the child?
    As the lawyer has said, this is not a case of Kevin vs. Mickey.
    The dog has a “history of violence” based on what?? An owner who suddenly wanted the dog put down because it had just mauled a child. There is no proof that the dog killed another dog or that he had attacked before. If he was so dangerous why was he allowed around children? And children that young should not be allowed to run around neighbourhoods unsupervised. Yes, it takes a second for a toddler to run off but, if you are actively supervising them, you will not be far behind. I’m sorry that the child was injured and that the mother can’t care for him. That does not mean that the dog needs to be killed. The murder of the dog won’t provide the mother with any money, and it won’t heal the boy. Both the pet owners, and carers of the boy were negligent.
    People will just bitch about anything. If you are so worried about the boy and his mother, send them some money from your own pocket.

  43. koolchicken

    March 25, 2014 at 9:26 pm

    I’m sorry but what if this kid fell into a pool and drowned? Or wandered into a street and was hit by a car? Who would we be blaming then? The “negligent pool owners” the “distracted driver”?

    Fact of the matter here is this. A horrible accident occurred. Maybe the babysitter is to blame, maybe they’re not. I don’t know how long the child was gone, or if children in their care have had accidents before. But what I do know is this. A dog, chewing on a bone, while secured in his own yard, was being pestered by a stranger. That dog was acting like a dog, just as the child was acting like a child. I will not blame either of them.

    If the mother has lost her job and home over this that’s really sad. But horrible things happen to people everyday. This is not the worst thing that could have happened to her. Her son will live, and he’ll get free medical treatment. There are shelters and work programs that would love the publicity they’d get from helping her. This dog’s owners wanted the dog put down, so he should have been put down (for the record I don’t believe in euthanasia but it’s their dog). If someone else comes in and asks to adopt the dog and the owners want to give him up instead, fine. Otherwise it’s their dog to do with as they wish and people should stay out of it.

    • C.J.

      March 25, 2014 at 9:50 pm

      I have a pool and a dog. If a kid comes in my yard and gets bit or drowns I am legally responsible. That is why I have a six foot privacy fence, pad lock the gates, train the dog and carry a good insurance policy. Same with driving, if I hit a kid I am legally responsible because pedestrians always have the right of way. At least where I live. If a dog has aggressive tendencies there should be extra precautions taken to protect potential victims and the dog. It seems like there was a combination of things that caused the accident, not that trying to place blame is going to help anyone.

    • koolchicken

      March 25, 2014 at 9:53 pm

      That’s why I’m saying, this was a horrible accident. Is someone to blame here? Maybe, maybe not. Sometimes there is no one. The stars align and something just happens. Maybe this kid was on his way to the street to be hit by a bus when he saw the dog first. Who knows. It’s sad this happened, but it did and we can’t take it back. People need to leave the dog to the owners and the child to his mother and lets all hope the world can show this family some compassion.

    • C.J.

      March 25, 2014 at 10:06 pm

      It sounds like the owners did want the dog put down. I don’t get why so many people are trying to save a dog that the owners don’t think is safe to keep.

    • koolchicken

      March 26, 2014 at 1:11 am

      I agree. For all we know this was a last straw kind of deal for the dog. Not that you should let it get to that stage, but some people shouldn’t get to own animals.

      So like I said before. I’m not a fan of euthanasia- but it’s not my dog so I don’t get to make the decision. If the owners really felt this needed to be done, maybe they were right. I think there are just a lot of animal crusaders who would do better directing their energy elsewhere. Like to kind, calm animals who never hurt anyone and are being put down en mass because there aren’t the funds to care for them.

    • C.J.

      March 26, 2014 at 1:41 am

      I’m not a fan of euthanasia either. That’s why whenever I find abandoned cats that are not feral I find them homes myself instead of bringing them to the Humaine society. I hate seeing any animal be killed, even when it is the best choice. It’s also why all my animals always get fixed. I just can’t see adding more animals when there is already so many without homes.

    • koolchicken

      March 26, 2014 at 2:02 am

      I know what you mean. I’ve taken in a couple of stray cats throughout the years just to keep them from being killed. It’s not fair to them. All they ever did was be born an animal, it could have been me.

    • C.J.

      March 26, 2014 at 10:24 pm

      It makes me angry that so many get dropped. I live in the county and people are always dropping them around here.

  44. J.B.P

    March 25, 2014 at 10:00 pm

    The little shit head kid should have stayed in his fucking house. -.- You wanna call me sick? Alright fine go ahead. I just happen to like animals a hell of a lot more than people.

    • whiteroses

      March 25, 2014 at 10:13 pm

      Which is your right. But that doesn’t mean that animals share your sentiments.

    • Heidi

      March 26, 2014 at 6:32 am

      Demented is what you are.

  45. Keith

    March 25, 2014 at 10:48 pm

    The “Our Gang” dog was a pit bull. They were a very popular family dog in those days. I have sympathy for a dog that was doing what a dog does and the child was hurt because they were doing something they were not supposed to be doing.

  46. Jezebeelzebub

    March 25, 2014 at 10:59 pm

    Oh, man… this sucks the whole way around. This makes me sad for both the dog and the humans involved.

  47. FaggyMcBitchtits

    March 25, 2014 at 11:09 pm

    I know some Koreans that are pretty hungry.

  48. Guest

    March 25, 2014 at 11:55 pm

    Holy shit. I usually love this blog and think the community is really great, but some of the comments on this one made my stomach turn. “I love my dog but I would kill it instantly if it ever snapped.” Jesus…

    My dog did bite a kid once. Not badly, she did not need stitches or anything. I had just adopted him from a rescue and did not understand the full extent of his issues yet — my mistake for bringing him around kids, I admit. Anyway, I was absolutely horrified that her mother would report it and have him put down. I felt absolutely sick over it. When she found out she looked at her daughter, shrugged, and said, “Eh she’s been through worse.”

    That was five years ago and he is a huge cuddlebug now. He loves children and hasn’t bitten anyone since. It took a lot of love and training but we worked through it. And I love him so much. He is my best friend in every meaning of the phrase. And yet from a huge portion of comments here, many of you would have had him put down immediately.

    That’s insane to me. I’m not even talking about this story. Just about the comments.

    • C.J.

      March 26, 2014 at 12:09 am

      Your dog didn’t permanently disfigure someone and you gave him the training he needed. Yes, if my dog snapped and caused permanent damage to a child I would put her down because I wouldn’t be able to trust her not to do it again. She is trained and well supervised so that isn’t likely to happen. If she were to snap it would likely mean something is terribly wrong with her. Most people aren’t going to think every dog that nips someone needs to be put down but we are talking about a dog that has killed another dog and mauled a child. That’s an aggressive dog.

    • Guest

      March 26, 2014 at 12:25 am

      Like I said, I wasn’t talking about the story. I recognize the difference in the two situations. My main point is that a lot of commenters expressed that they would have their dogs put down if they snapped or bit anyone. Snapping is not worthy of death, in my opinion, nor are all bites (like my story above). I just feel like a lot of people are being way too harsh with their hypothetical death sentences.

      That being said… I do think Mickey needs to be put down. It makes me very sad, because that likely could have been my dog had I never rescued him, but it is probably too late to train this aggression out of him. I blame the owners, obviously. I do not blame the child, he didn’t know any better. I think it’s horrible that he got hurt so badly and that his mother is suffering so much too. I don’t disagree with anyone on that.

    • C.J.

      March 26, 2014 at 12:36 am

      When I said snap I meant as in turned mean, not snap as in a warning non-bite. No I don’t think dogs should be put down for snapping their mouth as a warning. An untrained dog or puppy that nips but is in the process of being trained just needs supervision not death. I think most people here more mean serious bites but it is the internet and sometimes hard to interpret. I’m glad your dog found a loving home and was able to be trained. I feel bad for the ones that don’t get good homes and are too damaged to retrain.

    • Guest

      March 26, 2014 at 11:00 am

      I do too… I feel like most of the “bad” dogs are the products of their environments, i.e. the humans who train them. Mine was chained behind a house for three years and had zero social skills, which is why he was so aggressive. Every now and then he acts out, but me and my husband have come to realize that when he snaps or barks randomly, it usually means something is wrong with him and he’s trying to tell us. Last time it was an ear infection, once it was a bladder infection, etc. I would hope that if a really sweet dog suddenly turned mean and bit someone, they would take it to the vet first to check for any unknown health conditions before jumping straight into euthanasia.

    • C.J.

      March 26, 2014 at 10:22 pm

      That’s very sad. I don’t get why people get dogs if they don’t want to interact with them. Sounds like he has come a long way since you got him.

    • Kelly

      March 26, 2014 at 9:11 am

      If your dog ripped out that little girl’s eye and left her nearly dead and her mother just shrugged and said, “Eh, she’s been through worse.” she’d be a disgusting fucking human being who belongs in prison.

    • Guest

      March 26, 2014 at 11:01 am

      Which is not at all what happened, so I’m not really sure what your point is.

    • whiteroses

      March 26, 2014 at 11:03 am

      That is actually what happened to Kevin. He lost an eye and he’s permanently disfigured. You can’t bounce back from that.

    • Guest

      March 26, 2014 at 11:05 am

      I… am aware of that. I read the article. But my dog did NOT do that, he just bit the child, not severely enough to cause damage. So the “she’s been through worse” reaction was fine in this case. I’m pretty sure everyone agrees if she had had that reaction to a near death-by-mauling she’d be a terrible person. So again — point?

    • whiteroses

      March 26, 2014 at 11:08 am

      The point is that you can’t make a comparison between your personal dog and Mickey. It’s two completely different situations. I’m pretty sure we can all agree that a warning snap isn’t the same thing as a mauling. And we aren’t talking about your dog.

    • Guest

      March 26, 2014 at 11:14 am

      I know, that’s why I said in the original comment that I wasn’t talking about the story, but the amount of people who said they would put their dogs down if their dog ever bit or snapped at anyone. I wasn’t comparing my dog to Mickey at all, I was telling a story where my dog did what other commenters said would warrant putting their dogs down.

    • whiteroses

      March 26, 2014 at 11:16 am

      Sure. But I can tell you this- if any dog bit my child unprovoked and caused permanent damage, I’d lobby to have it put down. A nip is one thing. A bite is quite another.

    • Guest

      March 26, 2014 at 11:25 am

      I honestly think my biggest problem were the people who said “I love my dog but if he snapped at a kid I would kill him ASAP” (because again, a snap is not a reason to kill a dog, and it may be acting out due to health or training issues) and the lady who had her mom’s dog put down because it bit her kid (even though she admits that the dog did not do much damage to the kid). That is absolutely horrifying to me.

      But no, I am saddened with Mickey ended up like this, but if a dog mauls a child and causes permanent damage, then I would not disagree with euthanasia. I just think the qualifying words in your statement are “unprovoked” and “permanent damage”.

    • whiteroses

      March 26, 2014 at 3:51 pm

      If a dog bites a kid for no reason, it needs to be put down. Even if it didn’t cause much damage. Biting and snapping are two completely different things, imho.

    • Guest

      March 26, 2014 at 5:10 pm

      My dog bit that kid, he didn’t snap at her. Thank God her mother was more reasonable than you, I guess. Her kid was fine and doesn’t have a scar on her, but I would have been devastated and without one of the biggest joys in my life.

    • whiteroses

      March 26, 2014 at 6:59 pm

      Which would have been sad. But personally- nobody’s dog would trump my or any other child’s safety.

  49. Elisa Probert

    March 26, 2014 at 12:15 am

    The one thing I REALLY want to know is this…

    Was the previous aggressive behavior ever reported? Like when he killed another neighbor’s dog? Because if not, the entire neighborhood failed Kevin. If you KNOW a dog is aggressive, and presumably at large when he killed someone’s dog, and do nothing, don’t make a phone call to animal control or the police or someone, you get to bear some of the blame when a child wanders into the reach of that dog.

    Which is why I am calling about the “stray” in my mom’s neighborhood. I don’t believe he’s actually a stray, personally, but this dog appeared out of nowhere and charged at my puppy. He stopped because I stepped in front of him, bellowing “GET AWAY!” and he had been so focused on my pup that he didn’t even see me. If I had been a young child holding that puppy, instead of an adult in full Grizzly Mom mode…I can’t let that happen.

    • C.J.

      March 26, 2014 at 12:24 am

      That’s a good point, the dog should have been reported before. I would so report a dog attack in my neighbourhood even if it didn’t attack my kids or dog. I don’t want to be afraid to let my kids out or go out.

    • Elisa Probert

      March 26, 2014 at 12:39 am

      Unfortunately (or fortunately, if it means he’s been claimed and kept home) the dog that rushed my puppy hasn’t been spotted again since and no one knows where he came from. I’m honestly afraid that some little kid will be out playing with their puppy/small dog, and this one will see an opportunity. A child will not react with rage and think of ways to kill him…a child will react with fear, which feeds a dog’s attack like pouring gas on a fire.

      And as much as I hate to admit it, as a dog lover, I was thinking of the quickest way to kill that dog if he’d managed to grab Pumpkin. Not sure what that says about me as a person, that in a span of three seconds I went from “what’s happening?” to “how can I kill it if roaring doesn’t stop it?”

    • C.J.

      March 26, 2014 at 12:48 am

      First instinct is to protect, I don’t think that says anything bad about you as a person. Your little puppy is defenceless against a full grown charging dog. I think most peoples first instinct would be how to kill an attacking dog. Most dogs aren’t going to stop attacking on their own once they start. I’m glad it didn’t get that far. Hopefully that dog doesn’t get out again.

    • Elisa Probert

      March 26, 2014 at 1:07 am

      Just for a smile, this is the seven pound diva baby chew toy, Pumpkin. We know her mom is a fairly aggressive Chihuahua/MinPin cross, absolutely NO idea what else. (poor mom is an outside dog that gets no attention, but has food, water, and shelter so no one can do anything since she’s not being neglected, legally) She has one week left of puppy kindergarten, and has been doing very well with being respectful of other dogs. She will learn another dog’s best tricks by watching them do it once! She’s a little timid with people, especially children, but once introduced, she’s gentle with little ones. I think their high little voices confuse her.

      I think she kind of looks like a pocket pit bull…LOL
      https://scontent-a-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/1000647_731102303596882_1308660988_n.jpg

    • C.J.

      March 26, 2014 at 1:21 am

      She sounds adorable. Sounds pretty smart too. My dog had a hard time with the high pitched kid voices when she was a puppy too. She would get hyper around super screechy kids. She got used to them eventually. She loved puppy school. She was the big one and would lay there and let all the little dogs crawl all over her and hang off her ears. I wish I could see your puppy, what I am picturing in my head is too cute!
      That is terrible about her mother, some people just shouldn’t own dogs.

    • C.J.

      March 26, 2014 at 1:27 am

      Reading this off my phone and didn’t see the picture link. She is adorable!! I love her ears!

    • Elisa Probert

      March 26, 2014 at 1:40 am

      She’s in the process of losing all her puppy teeth. Teething makes ears do weird things! Earlier in the day, one was standing straight up and the other was folded completely down. She also looks like I never feed her, right now, with the constant growth spurts and all. She’s eating almost three times as much as my Dachshund, who is twice her size. Ah, puppies.

    • C.J.

      March 26, 2014 at 1:56 am

      I absolutely love puppy ears. I could never figure out why people want to dock the beautiful puppy ears! The funnier the ears the better. I love puppies! This is my Miley when she was a puppy. She will be 5 in June so she is a lot bigger now.

    • Elisa Probert

      March 26, 2014 at 2:29 am

      I have a friend with a boxer puppy, right now she looks like Miley in that picture. So stinkin’ cute! I can’t imagine why anyone would want to cut those ears, either. They’re the softest and most pettable part of the entire dog!

      Pumpkin was supposed to be in a training class, but it wound up being private lessons. Nobody else showed up. Just means she got more one-on-one attention and we could teach her a couple tricks they don’t usually get in basic obedience, like “Bow” and “roll over.” I think she’s going to learn my Dachshund’s version of roll over, though…point and say “Bang!” and GingerSnap rolls over, and then say “All better!” and she gets up.

      The mother’s owner did ask me, after I approached her about adopting Pumpkin, if I could help find homes for the other puppies. If they’d all been girls, I could have placed them, but for whatever reason, nobody wanted her brother. Did place her sister though, and Leia (the sister) does incredibly well with the little ones in her new home. I don’t love hearing that the two-year old picked her up by the neck, but the fact that her reaction was to kiss him and bring him a toy, says a lot for the puppy.

    • C.J.

      March 26, 2014 at 10:35 pm

      That worked out lucky for you, private lessons for the price of a class. We did both with Miley, she was a very stubborn pup. It took a lot of time to get her to listen. I ended up training her with both voice and hand signal commands. She still can’t roll over though, she is too gangly. I’ve never seen a puppy like yours before. I normally prefer bigger dogs but I think I would actually like a little dog like yours. She sounds like a good dog. I hope her brother finds a home.

    • Elisa Probert

      March 27, 2014 at 12:01 am

      I *think* “Buddy” may have found himself a home! Fingers crossed, I’m going to go talk to the guy tomorrow. He has a very sweet old Rottweiler that seems to have adopted the pup.

      Whatever mix Pumpkin is, she’s really, really smart. She LOVES being told she’s good, almost as much as she loves treats. LOL I don’t want her to end up like most little dogs, a total shithead that won’t listen, with nobody disciplining just because they’re too little to hurt anyone. Especially since she’s so willing to please…it would be a waste NOT to train her!

    • C.J.

      March 27, 2014 at 12:16 am

      I doubt your little pumpkin will turn into a shithead. I have a friend that has 4 teacup chihuahuas that are very well behaved and that is not a breed that is known for being well behaved. She brought them all to puppy school and trained them. I never understood why people think they don’t have to train little dogs. I don’t think little dogs are bad just because they are little either but too many of them are not trained. Pumkin sounds really smart and easy to train. I will keep my fingers crossed for Buddy too.

    • pixie

      March 26, 2014 at 10:16 am

      Aw, cute!

    • koolchicken

      March 26, 2014 at 1:21 am

      I think so often people don’t do that when they should. There was a German Shepherd that lived in the same building as my grandmother and her little Bichion Frise (oddly enough he was named Mickey). This dog would charge hers every chance it got. In fact it actually got him a couple of times, he needed stitches! But the owners would apologize, claim he didn’t mean it, and pay for the vet bills. My grandmother was an elderly woman living alone (save for the dog) and didn’t want to create a “situation” so she never reported the dog/owners.

      Now my Nan’s dog wasn’t the only one this GS had gotten (he had a thing for small dogs). But the owners always found a way to make things go away. I was a kid at the time and looking back the owners were probably intimidating the other residents in the complex. But what if it had one day decided to hurt a toddler. Sure it had never hurt a person before. But it had a propensity for violence and unqualified owners, so it’s not a stretch.

      I think it’s just a symptom of the way we value life. If a dog bites a dog, NBD they’re both animals it’s what they do. But if that same dog bites a kid the next week everyone’s up in arms saying someone should have done something. Well, the time for that was after the first attack- regardless who or what was the victim.

  50. Fluff

    March 26, 2014 at 4:16 am

    Pleased to see so many sensible commenters on here. Maria Guido, you have lost a reader.

    • Heidi

      March 26, 2014 at 11:42 am

      Its not her fault that some commenters are crazy. I am sure she will cry herself to sleep because you are no longer reading. You are so important.

    • Fluff

      March 27, 2014 at 4:12 am

      I’m pleased you have acknowledged my importance, it’s about damn time somebody did. I feel validated. You, however, cannot read. By saying “sensible commenters”, that would imply that I disagreed with Guido’s opinion that the dog doesn’t deserve sympathy. Way to process and understand information.

  51. gothicgaelicgirl

    March 26, 2014 at 9:15 am

    I hate to say it but I see both sides.
    The child SHOULD have been watched properly.
    HOWEVER (BEFORE you go jumping down my throat)
    ANY kind of dog, vicious, or not, should ALWAYS be secured properly.

    We have harmless spaniels and we STILL secure them, just in case.
    I do think it was mostly the dog owner’s fault. If you know there are small children around and your dog has had a history of acting aggressive, the blame lies with you.
    If you did NOT bother to secure your dog, that’s your fault.

  52. Kayla

    March 26, 2014 at 10:21 am

    My uncle used to own a pit bull, which by nature is a pretty tough dog, and it was friendlier than the little 12 pound shih tzu that I have now. You could literally put your hand in its mouth and it wouldn’t bite you; it liked when you took its bone away because it meant that you were playing and would probably throw it. Friendliest dog I ever met, but that’s only because my uncle raised it right. On the other hand my uncle (different uncle) was walking home from the store one day when a loose pit bull attacked him. Countless stitches, surgeries and years of healing were required for my uncle to be back to normal. The attack was awful.

    That said, I am a huge animal lover, and can’t see a point in my life where I wouldn’t ever want a dog by my side, but sometimes animals just aren’t trained properly. Despite what people may think, an animal’s tendency to attack isn’t instinctual, it has been nurtured to respond that way.As a responsible owner, you have the obligation to teach the dog what is right and what is wrong, and how to behave in certain situations. Fact of the matter is, some people fail to do this, and some may actually teach the dog to do the opposite: to be combative. It is sad that the dog wasn’t given the proper training that it needed (obviously) but to believe that that somehow takes precedent over the little boy’s life is absolutely disgusting. Sure we can blame the babysitter, maybe she wasn’t paying attention. Sure, we can blame the dog, because its aggressive behavior might have been apparent for a while. Sure, we can blame neighbors, who knew the dog was dangerous but did nothing about it. But what you cannot do (and many people have tried) is blame a four year old child for his attack.

    For those who say that he was old enough to know that he shouldn’t go where he doesn’t belong, shame on you. Most four year olds are completely oblivious as to what’s going on around them because they haven’t experienced life long enough to know any better. But, bravo to you few out there who must have been precocious little toddlers to know that you shouldn’t venture out to another yard because a vicious dog might attack you. Really, congratulations.

  53. Joye77

    March 26, 2014 at 11:08 am

    I am freaked out and afraid of dogs so there is absolutely no sympathy here for the dumb dog. I agree 100% with this article, I feel sad for my fellow humans when they feel such sympathy for a dangerous dog and overlook a child that was mauled and almost killed by an animal. If I was able, I would donate to the boy’s fund and I hope more people will. Who cares about the dog? It’s a dangerous dog that doesn’t deserve sympathy.

  54. Ouch

    March 26, 2014 at 11:35 am

    I was attacked by a dog (a family dog that we had owned for 4 years, since puppyhood) at 21 years old. He was a German Shepherd and had shown aggression before but my parents always ignored it. He was laying down one evening and I was petting his ears (his favorite thing ever) and he was loving it. I got up to get my cell phone, came back and started petting him again and he just snapped. I had over 60 puncture wounds along my right side- my arm, shoulder, back, side, and hand and had to have stitches in my palm because he tore it completely open. He also crushed the tiny bones in my right hand and tore ligaments and to this day, 4 years later, it doesn’t fully function. My dad put him down. Though I can’t say for sure, I would guess that anyone sticking up for this dog has never been attacked by one. I do not feel bad for the dog at all. Weighing 110 lbs and being attacked by a dog that weighs 100 lbs, has the second strongest bite force in the dog world, is a nightmare. 45 seconds seems like an hour and the pain is absolutely indescribable. For a little boy to have to have gone through that is horrible, and so is the fact that people are sticking up for the dog instead of the kid. If he has attacked before, he will do it again. End of story.

  55. Guest2014

    March 26, 2014 at 12:29 pm

    Lamest article ever. An unsupervised kid took a bone from a dog and it’s “sick” to care about the dog? The articles on this website are usually awful, but this one is the worst yet. I’m done with this site.

  56. archer

    March 26, 2014 at 12:39 pm

    For those commenting on breed type, take a moment to think about the people type. There is a type of person who chooses a pit bull based on the image/ stereotype. The reason many of these dogs then attack is because of training or neglectful environment, not because the breed is necessarily more aggresive than others.

  57. tk88

    March 26, 2014 at 7:06 pm

    This is a truly sad case. However, I hate how EVERYONE (including this author) sensationalizes the fact this dog was a Pit Bull. If he were any other breed of dog he would probably be referred to as a “dog” rather than his breed. This dog attacked not because he was a Pit Bull, but because he was living on a chain, and there is evidence he has been abused–both things that increase aggression in dogs. Not only that, but it’s not like he wasn’t “properly contained”–he was chained in his own yard. He didn’t maliciously attack this child on his own accord. The boy walked in, stole his bone and he reacted. That being said, and with his supposed dangerous history of attacking other animals, he should be put down. In fact I find the ruling now of removing some of his teeth and putting him in some sort of facility for the rest of his life to be more inhumane than putting him down. I feel the real fault here lies with the child’s babysitter who wasn’t watching him, and even the dog’s owner who treated the dog in a way that exacerbated dangerous behaviors. What people need to take away from this is not “Pit Bulls are vicious and all need to be killed!!” it’s that young children need to be taught respect and caution around dogs they do not know, and always be supervised around animals.

  58. Mikster

    March 26, 2014 at 7:34 pm

    Any dog who attacks a person should be humanely euthanized.

  59. Madwoman

    March 27, 2014 at 7:19 am

    I don’t care what kind of dog it is. I care more that dog nuts are more concerned with it than the person it hurt. Donating to a legal fund for the dog? A lawyer for the dog? Really? I am a dog owner, but I wouldn’t hesitate to put one of mine down if they were that unreliable and attacked someone, even if the kid was in my yard. And I hope I would try and do something to help the child and the mother. So many of the responses here seem to be focusing on defending the breed from it’s admittedly bad reputation than truly looking at the issue being discussed.

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  61. Snowy Owl

    May 8, 2014 at 9:16 pm

    The OWNER should be put down, not the dog. It is NOT the dog’s fault in any way. If a CHILD had nearly killed another child, the parents would be blamed. It’s the same for dogs. It’s not the poor creature’s fault that he landed an owner that got him killed. The owner should be put in prison and the dog should be trained by an experienced trainer. What a sick and stupid headline. Of COURSE I feel extreme amounts of sympathy toward the poor child, but that doesn’t mean I can’t also sympathise with a living being that’s being murdered because its owner was an idiot.

  62. Mademoiselle B.

    May 15, 2014 at 3:06 am

    It’s ridiculous to claim that if someone cares about the dog’s fate, then it not only means they care about the dog MORE than they care about the child but that they ONLY care about the dog and don’t care about the child. Seriously? STFU already, it’s perfectly possible to care about both the child and the dog. Really, you should give it a try – idiots.

  63. Katelyn Matava

    July 27, 2014 at 10:19 pm

    What a dumb*ss kid! You don’t go into a dog’s yard and take something from it! His stupid mother should have taught him that!

  64. Foxmantom

    August 14, 2014 at 3:22 am

    Both the kid and the dog are victims in this case and sadly in many, many other cases. Some dogs are biters. They either bite out of fear or when feel threaten. Some dogs are very territorial. Putting the dog down will not make the kid’s injuries to go away. It is a superficial way to psychologically make bloodthirsty, vengeful people feel better.

    For those who disagree with me, ask yourself this: will putting the dog to sleep prevent similar future occurrences if this same kid were left unattended and wandered into the neighbor’s yard attempting to play with another territorial dog? The real issue here is that the boy should not have wandered around from poor or lack of supervision. Also, the dog parents should not have left the dog outside in the yard unattended knowing its history. This was a very sad and tragic case. Dogs are dogs. They can be trained but some are unpredictable depend on the history of their upbringing. I’ve seen kids who are very abusive towards helpless animals. It is ridiculous to ask the animal to stay still to take torture without defending itself. It is like asking cat to let you pick it up using their ears or legs. Of course, they will try to scratch and bite you. People with a normal brain functioning know that animals have certain basic instincts. If you cannot control your animals or kids, then stop having them. If you cannot take care yourself, don’t make others to suffer along with you.

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