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Here’s Why Every Woman Should Care About #GamerGate

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Content note: this story is drenched in threatened violence against women, including rape.

The video gaming world is currently tangled up in a snarl of misogyny that is in equal parts disturbing and unsurprising. Even if you’re not a gamer, you may be aware of the existence of what’s been called #GamerGate, but you might not realize the extent to which this Internet phenomenon has gone – and depending on just how strong your stomach is, you might not want to know.

Let’s talk hypotheticals. Imagine that you and a group of like-minded people have some concerns about journalistic ethics, or maybe about whether you feel you’re being fairly represented in the media you consume. What would you do? Would you choose to A.) boycott the media that’s bothering you; B.) work to get trusted publications to establish an in-house ombudsman to oversee concerns about nepotism or tit-for-tat schemes; or C.) produce a month-long campaign of profanity-riddled, degrading, hateful attacks on women that include sharing their private personal information and threatening to murder them?

I’ll give you three guesses to put your finger on which one of these actually took place in the name of what some people apparently consider ‘ethics’. You may not be a gamer, but hopefully you’ll agree that something is rotten enough in the state of Xbox for the rest of us to be more than a little concerned.

For those who have been living in blissful ignorance of this disgusting shitstorm, 1.) I’m jealous, and 2.) the Cliffs Notes version of #GamerGate history starts with game developer Zoe Quinn. In early September, her angry ex-boyfriend publicly posted the details of their messy breakup, including the allegation that Quinn had slept with a writer for gaming site Kotaku – a site that had also reviewed Quinn’s recently-released game, Depression Quest. Sure, the review wasn’t written by the writer that Quinn apparently slept with, and, yeah, the game’s positive coverage appeared on Kotaku long before any such relationship took place. But if you think a little thing like ‘facts’ stopped the gamer outrage machine when there was a woman to rake over the coals, you really don’t know much about gaming culture on the Internet:

zoe quinn wikipedia hack death threat(via)

Fanboys smelled feminist blood in the water and went berserk, because apparently two people being sexually involved in non-overlapping spheres of the same industry is now the worst crime conceivable … aside from creating a video game that doesn’t feature a white, stubbly male protagonist, of course. Braying for ‘journalistic ethics’, male gamers posted Quinn’s address and phone number on the Internet, called her father to tell him his daughter was a whore, shared nude photographs of her, and anonymously sent threats of violence. If anyone shows up on your Facebook newsfeed trying to mansplain that this is really just about games journalism, please ask them why the brunt of the focus from the Internet Asshole Brigade has been locked on Quinn and not the journalist whose ethics are being accused of breaching.

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76 Comments

  1. keelhaulrose

    October 16, 2014 at 10:53 am

    “Notallgamers” I get it, I get it. But for those assholes who are doing this, well, there’s a reason there’s the joke that you can have games or a girlfriend but not both. You may think it’s because the games take up too much time, but it’s really because women don’t like sleeping with assholes who feel so emasculated or threatened by women in gaming they need to post death threats. Not a turn on, gentlemen.

  2. guest

    October 16, 2014 at 10:53 am

    I just heard about this a little more in detail yesterday and holy shit. I just don’t understand why a woman who likes gaming is just such a direct threat to these guys personally? Like why do you even care at all let alone THAT much? Your lives make me very very sad indeed.

  3. Azy

    October 16, 2014 at 10:57 am

    This makes me so angry because while I’ve only experienced a fraction of things like that, I know how bad it can be. ffs, when browsing EB Games, my daughter happened to see the new Halo and got super excited. Before I could go over to her, the guy working there told her that it wasn’t a game for girls. She looked horrified and I was PISSED.

    It’s sad when there are people in the gaming community who would literally shut down a little girl who likes a video game. It’s horrifying when you realize these people would also – and probably have – either send threats like those above or agree with said threats.

    • Marisa Quinn-Haisu

      October 16, 2014 at 6:17 pm

      My Mum is a grandmother and a huge Nintendo fan and buys games for herself and the people in EB always think she is buying them for her grandsons. I’m a huge Nintendo fan as well and gave my little girl a Mario themed bedroom.

    • the_ether

      October 17, 2014 at 2:09 am

      When we decorated our baby’s room with Mario decals, everyone assumed we were having a boy. We did, but we chose the decorations because we both love videogames! People also assumed boy because we bought dark-stained wooden furniture too, so maybe I just associate with idiots.

    • alexesq33

      October 17, 2014 at 7:29 am

      we have dark-stained wood in the nursery too and have a boy and girl (twins). I feel your pain. ppl r idiots sometimes.

    • Dreiko

      October 17, 2014 at 4:07 am

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipcWm4B3EU4

      Gamergate explained in 60 seconds. Watch and educate yourself. This article got too many details wrong sadly.

  4. LadyClodia the Modest Rat

    October 16, 2014 at 11:19 am

    I enjoy gaming, but I don’t play multiplayer games usually and definitely not online. I’ve been gaming since the 80’s when my dad got us an original Nintendo. I’ve never really run in to harassment just because I’m a girl, but that’s partly because I will avoid situations in which I know there is a distinct possibility for harassment.
    It is so angering and frustrating and depressing that women are getting death threats because of their work in the games industry. I can’t even imagine what awful, pathetic people these men are that send death threats and threaten mass shootings because women are present in the gaming industry. It’s like the women should be grateful and appreciative of being allowed into the “boys club” of gaming, but once they’re in they’re not allowed to say anything. That’s total bullshit.
    I also don’t think this is a recent problem. It seems like there has always been that type of guy, since the days of arcades, who thought it was OK to degrade and harass girls and women for being there. Of course, that was in person and it still happened, but the internet makes to so much easier to harass and threaten others.
    I don’t know what the solution could be. I guess for these guys to decide not to be assholes anymore. Maybe for stricter laws dealing with internet harassment. And yet, sadly, I don’t think that will really help because the odds of anything being done about women being harassed online are no better than anything being done about them being harassed in person. This is an important topic, though, and we do need to talk about it more. I just wish there was more we could do.

    • Sri

      October 16, 2014 at 11:31 am

      Personally, I have asked my friends not to refer to a horrendous ass kicking as “rape” but that only works because they’re my friends. I really don’t know what to do other than that, because nothing seems to work. Maybe talking about it might change some guys’ minds, but it won’t stop the really toxic behavior. It just feels so hopeless…

      I quit playing a majority of multiplayer games specifically because I didn’t have the patience to deal with harassment. I think I’m one of the only people grateful that Destiny’s multiplayer communication system is broken as hell, because it means that nobody will hear me talk and give me shit, since I’m only pretty good (better than hubs, but not amazing). I dread the day that patch goes live. I’m sorry, dude who died 3 times because he can’t be bothered to find cover and who can’t find the bosses weak spot because heaven forbid it not be the head, I SHOULD go make you a sandwich while you fornicate with my dead mother. How silly of me.

  5. rockmonster

    October 16, 2014 at 11:22 am

    There’s having dislike and annoyed feelings for a person aaand then there’s death threats.
    Zoe Quinn seemed to have used Robin Williams’ death to promote Depression Quest and Sarkeesian leaks money like a sieve and gets details of the games she uses for TvW wrong.Does this excuse harassment? FUCK NO TO INFINITY. If you disagree with someone, do it respectfully. Only if they are an asshole to you do you get to be one back.

    • roase

      October 16, 2014 at 11:30 am

      What makes me sad is people like Anita, Zoe, and Wu are probably discouraging more women from joining the industry by crying wolf and making gamers seem like monsters. I don’t think they know or care about the harm they are doing.

      The truth is I think they more than likely made they threats themselves in order to make money and make a name for themselves. Gamergate is a good scapegoat because most people outside gaming have no idea what it was about so it’s easy to hijack.

    • Sauce

      October 16, 2014 at 11:35 am

      … Is this real life?

    • rockmonster

      October 16, 2014 at 11:41 am

      WHAT HAVE I DONE? ALL I DID WAS PUT TWO CENT AND AGGGH

    • Kitsune

      October 16, 2014 at 11:49 am

      This article was bound to bring in a troll or two sadly.

    • Kate Spencer

      October 16, 2014 at 11:35 am

      Accusing them of “crying wolf” to “make money” is like accusing rape victims of lying for their own gain. NOPE.

    • roase

      October 16, 2014 at 11:38 am

      Not the same at all. I am going by logical evidence.
      Gamergate consists of many men and women working together for more journalistic integrity. For the benefit of all gamers and developers.

      What would they have to gain by sending death threats and harassing? That does not help the movement at all.

    • rockmonster

      October 16, 2014 at 11:46 am

      Sources please.

    • roase

      October 16, 2014 at 11:52 am

      Check twitter. Any threats or harassment are reported and denounced by gamergate supporters.

      Also if you want check out a video called “3 Strong Women of #Gamergate Fight back!” They go in to detail about how they have received threats for supporting gamergate, but to blame them on a group of people with no evidence is just wrong and does nothing to help anyone. They also do a really great job of describing what the movement is actually about.

    • Sri

      October 16, 2014 at 12:05 pm

      Oh, you mean that thing that was planned by 4chan as a two pronged attack to make it look like the calls weren’t coming from inside the house, which involved people setting up sock puppet accounts specifically to denounce the threats? That? Oh, bless your heart.

    • roase

      October 16, 2014 at 12:11 pm

      You can really tell people have no idea what they are talking about when they blanket blame wide groups of people with no evidence. If you think people like Jennie Baraj, Jemma Morgan, and Geogina Young are sockpuppets you are sorely mistaken.

    • Ursi

      October 16, 2014 at 11:48 am

      I don’t care for Anita Sarkeesian. But never for a moment have I ever considered that she might be “faking it” because that’s some crazy shit to accuse someone of and women know damn well that it’s difficult to be taken seriously in this very male dominated industry.

    • Ursi

      October 16, 2014 at 11:37 am

      holy shit

    • Kate Spencer

      October 16, 2014 at 11:37 am

      FYI, the thing that’s going to discourage women from joining the industry is accusing women already in the industry of “crying wolf.”

    • Jen TheTit Whisperer

      October 16, 2014 at 11:50 am

      That is probably one of the more absurd things I’ve heard in my life.

    • FemelleChevalier

      October 16, 2014 at 11:58 am

      This again? You know, Zoe may have done some questionable things, but rape and death threats—even directs calls to her father just to say that his daughter is a whore—is NOT something a reasonable human being should do. And not acknowledging that gamers are capable of it is just as naive as thinking that Zoe is a faultless victim.

      Clean your act and call out those assholes with their bullshit (just like some sane people have tried to do who criticized Zoe). This is despicable.

    • rockmonster

      October 16, 2014 at 12:00 pm

    • roase

      October 16, 2014 at 12:03 pm

      Again, that has nothing do with gamergate. I am really sorry that she received threats and no one should have to scared for their lives (if true). But posting them publicly and blaming them on a group of people, followed by a donation link seems a little suspicious.

    • FemelleChevalier

      October 16, 2014 at 12:22 pm

      Actually, TFYC have acknowledged that trolling and hacking in the Gamergate exists. Which is why, just like some sane gamers have done, people should call out those trolls. I agree that Zoe has done questionable things and has threatened/bribed people (at least according to TFYC anyways) and is not the victim that she’s claiming she is. All I’m saying is that instead of excusing the trolls within it, call them out.

      And pretending that the gaming community doesn’t have them is absurd, so CALL THEM OUT. It’s that simple.

    • ToninaMDC

      October 16, 2014 at 1:07 pm

      Regardless of how you feel about Gamergate, at this point it has devolved into horrendous, vitriolic misogyny and threats. If you feel strongly about ethics in gaming journalism, great, but in that case you would be better off working with other like-minded individuals to either call out those who have taken over Gamergate with rampant misogyny and threats and/or starting a new movement entirely focused on ethics in journalism that does more than give lip service to not tolerating violence, harassment, and misogyny in supporters.

    • LadyClodia the Modest Rat

      October 16, 2014 at 12:03 pm

    • Lex_Discipulus

      October 16, 2014 at 2:27 pm

      You are right. Clearly getting death threats and bomb threats are “crying wolf.”

      Your “Truth” sounds like a nutjob found a keyboard.

    • Kheldarson

      October 16, 2014 at 3:57 pm

      Ignoring the troll, I’m glad I’m not the only one who’s bugged by Sarkeesian getting details wrong. I mean, she has a good idea, but the lack of research undermines it 🙁

  6. Megan

    October 16, 2014 at 11:28 am

    Fantastic post Aimee. This really is an issue that goes far beyond gaming culture.

  7. Kate Spencer

    October 16, 2014 at 11:31 am

    The particularly upsetting thing to me about all of this (which, like, it’s all upsetting) is that there is no protection for this woman. This could happen to any one of us. The reaction from authorities seems to be a shrug. And the thing in Utah where they can’t use metal detectors to check for guns b/c the law protects concealed weapons…I CAN’T.

    • FishQueen

      October 16, 2014 at 3:41 pm

      The police have LITERALLY chosen guns over the safety of women. There is so much WTF about the whole Utah situation that it makes me ill.

  8. Ursi

    October 16, 2014 at 11:40 am

    I’m sorry. I’m a bad feminist. I’m over gamergate. My spouse is a hardcore gamer, a man, and a radfem (and if you think there aren’t radical male feminists you’ve never met my husband, y’all) and he is doing all the caring for both of us.

    These people making threats scare they shit out of me. They’re the reason I only play online games under a male handle. I don’t want to engage them. I’m out of rage. I’m just old and tired and defeated.

    • Kate Spencer

      October 16, 2014 at 11:49 am

      This doesn’t make you a bad feminist, it makes you a woman exhausted by the reality of being a woman. I feel you.

    • Ursi

      October 16, 2014 at 11:52 am

      Appreciated.

    • Jen TheTit Whisperer

      October 16, 2014 at 11:51 am

      As much as we might want to…we can’t fight every fight. Which is why it’s important that we fight what we can when we can. Your husband can take up this mantle, you’ll get the next round.

    • Ursi

      October 16, 2014 at 11:52 am

      Thanks for this

    • TheQuirkyDiva

      October 17, 2014 at 8:43 am

      I’m with you, sadly. And people who know me are shocked that I’m not taking a stand over this. That’s how scared I am of these guys. Which is just…crazy.

  9. VA Teacher

    October 16, 2014 at 12:03 pm

    Is Zoe Quinn really FIFTEEN or did they alter her birthdate too?

    • rockmonster

      October 16, 2014 at 12:06 pm

      She was born in ’87. Someone thought that she’s immature.

  10. guest

    October 16, 2014 at 12:19 pm

    And, as predicted, someone has already shown up to explain how it’s really her fault. Awesome. I hate people.

    (Not you, Aimee. You’re awesome.)

    • FemelleChevalier

      October 16, 2014 at 12:29 pm

      She doesn’t deserve the threats, but she’s also not an innocent angel.

    • Sri

      October 16, 2014 at 12:34 pm

      But, I mean, we can point out that death threats are wrong without having to go over every sin she ever committed, because nothing she (or anyone involved in this) did wrong really matters in the “death threats are wrong” argument. It just makes it seem like they deserved it or that it’s somehow not as bad because they were wrong, too.

    • FemelleChevalier

      October 16, 2014 at 12:54 pm

      Well, yes. Obviously. And I already said that in my earlier comments.

      I am in no way victim-blaming her, but I do find her distasteful for harassing gamers (who are women) just for not following her way and then calling every reasonable critics as “anti-feminists”. Sure, the trolls are trolls, but not all are trolls and some have tried to call them out and people should continue to call them out.

      I’m opposed to the threats and I’ll tell those asshole gamers they’re assholes for harassing her, but that doesn’t mean that she gets a leeway for harassing other people as well prior to Gamergate. So again, she doesn’t deserve the threats and people who says otherwise are assholes, but she’s not innocent either.

    • Spitting_mad

      October 16, 2014 at 4:51 pm

      I genuinely don’t see how her indiscretions are relevant to this conversation. At all.
      Frankly, I think bringing them up at this junction is dangerous and gross. I really don’t care if someone is the biggest bitch on the block, when she’s attacked horrifically, it’s NOT the time to talk about that. To do so will always be inferred as victim blaming.

    • FemelleChevalier

      October 16, 2014 at 9:22 pm

      *Sigh* Of course what happened to her is not right, but inaccuracies to every stories is still inaccuracies. If we want to progress in combating sexism in virtually anything, the first thing that people need to do is to not adhere to the “one side is automatically the beacon of innocence” mentality (which is what had happened to reports on Gamergate), because people are going to see it as peddling and putting a shady person on a pedestal instead of holding her accountable. Which is why people—on both sides—SHOULD focus on the trolls who are doing the horrible things here and telling them to fuck off, all the while acknowledging that this is not a clear-cut thing.

      How about this: “Sometimes, people are horrible. Sometimes even more so than the other, and that’s the reality of life. Some bully others, and some don’t. But despite that, no one deserves to be treated in a threatening manner no matter how negatively they have presented themselves. And Zoe Quinn, just like Anita, don’t deserve the treatment they had endured no matter what their past actions are. Sexism in the gaming industry should stop. Movements that try to change the shady ethics in gaming industry should not demean people on the basis of ‘protecting’ the industry, because sexism also demeans the other half of the people and the other half of the gaming industry.”

      So, again, it is not victim-blaming to acknowledge that two sides exist. If you deem it irrelevant and off topic, then okay. If the tone of the one-liner comment is off to some people, then okay. But that one-liner of a comment is not my first comment and I’ve already stated my views against the trolls earlier than that, which is pretty much the same.

    • Spitting_mad

      October 17, 2014 at 4:43 pm

      I stopped reading at “but”.

      Every time you say “But” you lose that much more credibility and respect.

      And you’ve said “but” so many times that I’m not going to waste MY time reading the rest of that.

    • FemelleChevalier

      October 18, 2014 at 3:14 am

      I’m not forcing you to nor do I need to earn your respect. It’s just that it’s a tad narrow-minded for people to cling to immediate, inflammatory reactions without furthering their knowledge on the issue. Expanding the facts on any issue and ridding of inaccuracies is imperative in any attempt to solve the issue. It’s not a really complicated concept.

      You never addressed the gist of the comment, just that you find it immediately offensive on account of it being ill-worded for your taste. I’ll probably concede to that since English is not really my native language, but to be wholly dismissive of a presented view without further expounding on the issue at hand—for example, that acknowledging that two sides exist to every story—is the very definition of being narrow-minded. At least explain yourself without insulting people; isn’t that the idea of a decent conversation? That we don’t immediately attack, but to both be civilize in exchanging ideas?

      In saying that, do I need to be ashamed of my thoughts and views just because you deem it “offensive” without elaborating nor thoroughly explaining on the why it is offensive, like any reasonable people should do? I have already explained on the why my words—besides the probability of it being ill-worded to some people—are not an attempt of victim blaming (numerous times, in fact) but a criticism on how one-sided the reporting on this issue can be. So your reply is to not expound on that, but to presume about my “disrespectful” personality?

    • Spitting_mad

      October 19, 2014 at 1:17 am

      I didn’t read that either. Why are you even still talking? Was I not clear enough?

    • whiteroses

      October 16, 2014 at 12:47 pm

      That doesn’t excuse bad behavior, sorry.

    • FemelleChevalier

      October 16, 2014 at 12:55 pm

      I’ve already said so in my other comments.

    • Kate Spencer

      October 16, 2014 at 2:14 pm

      Then why say it at all? I truly do not get why people do this. “She doesn’t deserve it, but…” is essentially saying she deserves it. Come on.

    • FemelleChevalier

      October 16, 2014 at 2:24 pm

      I was responding to the OP because it seems like there are some people who are automatically assuming that she is innocent when she harassed, sabotaged, and have “stolen” donations (stolen here means not owning up from her responsibilities) from gaming developers whose aim is to promote more women as game developers. Also, she labeled them as scammers when she didn’t get her way.

      It is obviously wrong that she is has been experiencing any of this, as any reasonable person would say. I do hope that the trolls be punished for the theats. But I commented because she is still not innocent.

    • Anon

      October 30, 2014 at 4:50 pm

      Jesus Christ Femelle, stop saying the word “BUT”. You are excusing and green-lighting the most deplorable behaviour towards Quinn every time you say the word “but”. Stop saying it. You’ve been told enough times. Enough is enough. Stop it. NOW.

    • FemelleChevalier

      October 31, 2014 at 3:10 am

      Jesus Christ, this is what I hate about the American mentality. No, not everything is black and white and us versus them. A person can acknowledge what another person’s flaws are and can want them to be held accountable, all the while hating the bad things that are happening to them.

      Not everyone are obliged to blindly align themselves to any side, so the “right” side should at least have a semblance of awareness that, when a person is presenting a slightly different view that doesn’t conform to the supposed “rightness”, that they’re not automatically “enemies” but only people with different approaches whose end goal are still the same with the “right” side. IT HAPPENS.

      This is a chance to spread awareness on how to acknowledge people’s flaws without GOING TOO FAR. There are bad people and, if what they did borders on immoral and illegal, the reaction of other people can be understandably bad BUT it doesn’t excuse any rape threats or death threats nor it should continue. Which is why people should continue to vilify the trolls but not be too naive to NOT gather enough ACCURATE info on something they’re trying to react to. Because knowing facts is important no matter what the context is: it is EVERYTHING because inaccuracies are detrimental in presenting any personal opinion.

      How hard of a concept is this to understand?

    • FemelleChevalier

      October 31, 2014 at 3:37 am

      PS: If you’re all so worked up with the “but” and are only focusing on THAT and wholly dismissing the POINT (which is really, really obnoxious) on solely that, then I will REPEAT—just like what I have said ALREADY in other comments—that if people find it ill-worded, then I concede. YOU don’t have to repeat it to me and just learn how to READ other comments. Because in my NATIVE language, just like what I have said ALREADY, it is nothing BUT a translation to words used to express a contradictory idea on the same sentence and not COMMONLY used with an actual, political context to consider that is widely common in N. America.

      So if you’re going to criticize me, then take the “but” argument and present other ones that address the gist of my comments.

    • Lex_Discipulus

      October 16, 2014 at 2:33 pm

      Isnt that kind of how it goes?

      “Well she didnt DESERVE to be raped buuuut she did go home with the guy . . .”
      “Well he didnt DESERVE to be killed buuuuut he might have stolen some cigarettes.”
      “Well she doesnt DESERVE to be threatened buuuut she might have done some questionable things.”

      It is victim blaming 101

    • FemelleChevalier

      October 16, 2014 at 2:47 pm

      “Those feminist game developers (who are mostly women) don’t deserve to receive threats BUT I’m more feminist than them so it’s okay to sabotage them.” – Zoe Quinn (Not verbatim, obviously, but if we’re going with your “victim-blaming” 101 logic, then “her people” is just as guilty of harassing these WOMEN, and where’s the coverage about that?)

      No one is blaming any victims here, just that it’s a FACT that the victim in this article is nowhere near as squeaky-clean as people seem to believe.

    • Lex_Discipulus

      October 16, 2014 at 2:55 pm

      But what is the point of bringing it up? Who cares if one of them was a woman who slept with every guy she saw or if she was a bully. How does this excuse the threats of violence and rape? If that isnt what your goal is (excuse the threats) then why even bring it up?

      It is like when someone is murdered and the media brings in “oh well here is a photo of them doing drugs one time.” What does it matter? Does it make the murder ok?

      If you think the death threats and threats of rape are not ok what is the point of saying “Well she duped some developers” or your weird version of victim blaming that you gave. Unless ZQ was giving out the death threats and making it ok bc she is more feminist your analogy doesnt hold water. It is not an accurate or correct comparison

      I am not saying her feet shouldnt be held to the fire for her past actions of sabotaging other developers etc but to throw it in here certainly makes it sound like you are “green-lighting” the death threats bc “Hey she did some bad stuff too.”

      And that is not how this works.

    • FemelleChevalier

      October 16, 2014 at 3:20 pm

      I’ve already said it before (again and again and again): no one should excuse the threats or even let it continue. It is not right to let the cycle of abusive behavior continue in the gaming industry. Sexism happens within it, yes, no question, which is why trolls are ridiculously pathetic in my opinion.

      But in answering your question, yes, she has actually “unleashed” her followers to TFYC—among other things—to harass them, and they (the followers) have given them death threats, rape threats, and harassments. My point in saying that is because the coverage on her is always incomplete and one-sided, mostly that people aren’t holding her accountable for the shitty things she did (not her sexuality, obviously, but other things that ruined other people). And no, that is not victim-blaming, but statement of facts that seem to be missing in anything that she’s reported on just because she has more “power”.

      Again, I am not “green-lighting” the death threats just because I acknowledge that there’s a two side to every story. And since I’m against to threats towards women, I’m also against Zoe Quinn’s action due to her harassing female game developers who haven’t done her anything wrong.

      AGAIN, not liking Zoe doesn’t mean that I want the threats to her to continue (and I’ll actually tell off anyone who says she deserve it on account of *insert shady thing here*), just that she be held accountable for her shady actions (in a non-threatening manner).

    • footnotegirl

      October 16, 2014 at 10:58 pm

      Little thing my momma taught me. When someone puts ‘but’ in a sentence, you can erase everything that came before the but.

    • Dreiko

      October 17, 2014 at 4:24 am

      Nuance.

      It sucks that these things happened to her and simultaneously it feels like over-blown karmic justice since while the punishment does not fit the crimes, it’s not like it was completely unjustified either.

      In a perfect world, Karma would bite her in the ass exactly the proportionate amount. This is an imperfect world.

      Thus, we arrive at the crux of the matter; would you think it’s better for her to get away with this behavior? Would that be better for you compared to being over-chastised? Such treatment is horrible and nobody deserves it and yet, somehow, a lot of people (people who aren’t sexist monsters) are not exactly feeling sorry for her, either. If you try to look at this from a nuanced angle, you may begin understanding the whys behind it.

    • footnotegirl

      October 17, 2014 at 10:59 am

      No, I’m sorry, someone screwing up in a relationship in their 20’s (i.e. the time in our lives where we screw up in relationships) by no ridiculous stretch of the imagination deserves to have their personal dirty laundry exposed to the world, let alone end up getting doxxed, harassed, and having death threats over it. ‘Karma’ for screwing up in a relationship is either not being able to find another one or getting cheated on yourself. Unless of course you mean her (or Anita, or Brianne’s) ‘mistake’ of getting involved in video game development and/or critique even though they have XX chromosomes.

    • Dreiko

      October 17, 2014 at 6:47 pm

      No of course I don’t mean her joining the industry as her sin, are you kidding me?

      Nor did I mean simply the infidelity, either. I was referring to the corruption in game’s journalism that she, unluckily for her, was the last straw that broke the camel’s back about. There has been unrest about games journalism for many years now and this is the last incident in a series of many incidents. This one just so happened to be the one to get people to say “no more” and thus she got the treatment she got.

      It’s definitely unfair but it’s not due to “screwing up in her relationship” but rather due to “being a symbol of the corruption” that we take issue with by having multiple ties within the industry that breach ethics and a whole other host of faults that you can watch this and inform yourself of:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipcWm4B3EU4

      Gamergate people have actually donated over $70.000 to a charity aimed at getting women into game development. Did you know that? It really is just a tiny fraction of us that are actual assholes. There’s just that many assholes in ANY community out there.

    • mommabeer

      October 16, 2014 at 2:17 pm

      So why bring it up at all? If we are discussing the fact that she got death and rape threats, and you say, well she’s not innocent either, then it sounds like you’re in some way excusing the threats or blaming her for them because she did something wrong. Just want to point out how your language sounds to someone who’s a passing observer.

    • FemelleChevalier

      October 16, 2014 at 2:26 pm

      Fair enough.

  11. Ann B.

    October 16, 2014 at 12:35 pm

    I’ve been following this for a few weeks now. Before I was a mom, I was a gamer, and now I’m raising little gamers in my footsteps. I’m convinced that the problem isn’t entirely the movement. Some people are opting more legitimate means of pursuing their goals (and should probably get a new hash tag if they want to be taken seriously), like emailing sponsors of websites whose ethics they consider breeched. Intel pulled out from website Gamasutra for example. However, so many people, whose goals are CLEARLY not gaming ethics, are riding the movement for their own anti-feminist agendas. And because their primary meeting place, 8chan (no seriously, don’t go there, one visit will rot your brain out trying to figure out how anyone gets this depraved) is literally founded on anonymity, it makes it convenient for gg peeps to point to harassers and doxxers and say “clearly that’s not us!” It’s just a huge clusterfuck, and these people who legitimately want this ethics conversation NEED to step back and start over without these tools riding their tails, or the assclowns will keep getting momentum off the movement and someone will legitimately get hurt.

  12. Rachel Sea

    October 16, 2014 at 1:36 pm

    It gives me a rage stroke that law enforcement’s response is not to arrest every single person making a threat, but to help silence the women “causing” the disturbances, for their own safety.

  13. Blueathena623

    October 16, 2014 at 1:42 pm

    Wow. Wow. Excellent article.

  14. Marisa Quinn-Haisu

    October 16, 2014 at 6:23 pm

    I’ve been following this for a couple of weeks now and what I don’t get is why so many people are getting so angry about it. Even if Zoe Quinn did sleep with those guys why do so many people care? Why are people still talking about it? I have been a “gamer” since my Mum first put a Super Nintendo controller into my hands when I was eight. Female fans of games IS a thing and always has been and continues to be. Women do not want to take video games away from anyone. It would just be nice if there were more strong female characters in video games who are playable instead of characters like Peach. Another point I’ll like to make is when feminists complain about female characters being too sexy in video games no one is saying a character cannot be sexy. What people are complaining about is when you have characters like Cia in Hyrule Warriors where the focus is on her giant breasts when the camera pans past her. Just dial things back a bit and stop making women the prizes to be won at the end of a game (Peach, Zelda)

    • notenoughtocare

      October 18, 2014 at 1:00 am

      ” It would just be nice if there were more strong female characters in video games who are playable instead of characters like Peach.”

      If you want to see more female gamers, women are going to have create their own games. That’s just how it is. Men aren’t going to create them. And what’s with this whole “strong” component? Whatever female characters are created will differ based on personality.

    • Benwhoski

      October 19, 2014 at 12:40 am

      Many women _are_ doing that. Part of the problem with this, though, is that the same people who seem to think Zoe Quinn’s sex life is a threat to their gaming way of life also see a woman _successfully_ making games with unconventional themes and characters as an equal threat.

      It kind of ends up going like this:

      So-called ‘Core Gamers’: If you want more female/poc/disabled/trans representation in your games, make them yourself!

      Indie Female Developer: Okay. I’ll do that.

      Reviewers: Oh hey, this unconventional game by this developer is pretty innovative and an intriguing. It’s worth checking out.

      So-called ‘Core Gamers’: OMG! People weren’t supposed to LIKE the games! They only like it because SJWs control games journalism! CORRUPTION!

      And then they launch harassment campaigns.

  15. Quinn

    October 19, 2014 at 10:29 am

    I don’t understand. I’m a gamer of roughly 24 years. I don’t love Anita Sarkeesian — she exaggerates, she embellishes, she misrepresents. That sucks, and I wish she wouldn’t.

    I wish she wouldn’t.

    I don’t wish she’d die a violent death. I don’t wish she were raped. I don’t wish she were beaten. I don’t hate her — I can’t hate her because I don’t know her. Why is it so impossible for Gamergate and Associates to separate disagreement from hate?

    Edit: No, no relation.

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