Internet A-Holes Have A Cow Over This Mom’s Petition For A Special Needs Disney Princess

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Disney has come under fire in the past for its lack of diversity and representation, and the latest thing to stoke the flames is a mom’s petition for the company to add more special needs characters. Representation in media is important, and I think adding a Down syndrome character as the petition asks would be a step in the right direction. Of course, once news of the petition hit the Internet, the response was both swift and nasty. Did we expect anything less?

Keston Ott-Dahl, the author of the petition and the mother of a little girl with Down syndrome, wants movies with role models that her daughter can relate to. Meanwhile, the denizens of the Internet want to know why the ‘PC Brigade’ is ruining their lives by, you know, politely requesting some diversity in movie casts. Let’s see if we can ford Jerkwad River without getting dragged under by the current, shall we?

1. Down syndrome = alcoholism, apparently

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Yup, trying to show young people with special needs that they can be heroes and heroines too is roughly equivalent to portraying Cinderella as a pill-addled, husband-beating maniac. Good to know we haven’t moved past the antiquated notion that having an unusual number of chromosomes is a type of moral failing.

2. Only conventionally attractive, conventionally-abled people are allowed to find role models in movies and on TVspecial needs disney princess comment 2


There is no TV. There is only “activities”. Because as we know, activities are always available to every child, everywhere; and when they are available, the child’s peers in these activities are always a source of support and kindness. ALWAYS.


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I am honestly not sure what this person is trying to say. Are they somewhat incoherently thanking Disney for making Nemo a character with a disability? Or are they saying, thanks, we have a special needs character in a Disney movie already, so we can be done now? I’d like to think we could have at least one special needs character who is a human and not a fish, but I’m greedy like that.

4. … what?

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I’m not sure what values this guy fears are going to be imposed on him, other than the radical concept that people with special needs have worth. Or does he think Down syndrome is an ‘orientation’?

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  1. rockmonster

    October 21, 2014 at 11:34 am

    But Alcoholism ≠ Down syndrome????? And neither does any other addiction? Or short-term memory loss?

    • FishQueen

      October 21, 2014 at 11:59 pm

      I love the use of “alcohol disability”. What, pray tell, is that? I’m unable to drink alcohol- does that make me alcohol disabled, or does somebody drinking make them disabled by alcohol?

  2. tk88

    October 21, 2014 at 11:37 am

    Am I the only weirdo who thought “Why does it have to be a princess?” I’m really getting tired of princesses. With the exception of the most recent Frozen, princesses are exceedingly dull.

    • rockmonster

      October 21, 2014 at 11:38 am

      And that’s why I’m excited for BH6 and Inside Out.

    • Katherine Handcock

      October 21, 2014 at 11:50 am

      INSIDE OUT! I am DYING for that movie.

    • Sri

      October 21, 2014 at 12:41 pm

      I identify way too strongly with the chunky, cat loving robot that just wants to help people. Way more strongly than any of the princesses.

    • rockmonster

      October 22, 2014 at 12:48 pm


    • Grr! Arrgh!

      October 21, 2014 at 12:23 pm

      Word. If/when we hit the princess phase, I’m doing my utmost to convince my daughter that what she really wants is to be queen. Princess is a largely ceremonial position after all. Sure the clothes and shoes are pretty good, but it’s mostly a crap-ton of social obligations and restrictions and waiting until you’re married off to secure a political alliance. Queens, however, get even bigger jewels and they get to RULE.

    • rockmonster

      October 21, 2014 at 12:24 pm

      But queensnare evil!!!!1!1!1

    • Grr! Arrgh!

      October 21, 2014 at 12:29 pm

      Is it horrible that I see that as another plus to being queen?

    • LA Face, Oakland Booty (and

      October 21, 2014 at 12:39 pm

      I dunno. I could get down with lounging about, working on my womanly skills and day drinking, while enrobed in gorgeous gowns. I think I could be really good at it.

    • Grr! Arrgh!

      October 21, 2014 at 12:52 pm

      That’s fair. I just want to be able to imperiously order around my army *while* I day drink.

    • LA Face, Oakland Booty (and

      October 21, 2014 at 1:06 pm

      That does have a certain appeal. You could stroll up to the formation, martini and hand and be all:

    • Grr! Arrgh!

      October 21, 2014 at 1:16 pm

      Ha! I love Sweet Dee and I love this gif.

      And I’m now thinking of making “assdick” an offical military ranking in my hypothetical royal guard.

    • LA Face, Oakland Booty (and

      October 21, 2014 at 1:20 pm

    • Grr! Arrgh!

      October 21, 2014 at 1:23 pm

      These gifs are gold! If I ever do take over a nation and subject it to my tyranical rule, I’m making you Grand Dutchess of The Gang.

    • LA Face, Oakland Booty (and

      October 21, 2014 at 1:25 pm


    • Valerie

      October 21, 2014 at 1:16 pm

      Sweet Dee! I am the Dee to my brother’s Dennis. Bwahahaha.

    • LA Face, Oakland Booty (and

      October 21, 2014 at 1:18 pm

      Sweet Dee is the best ever.

    • Brooklyngirl28

      October 21, 2014 at 3:32 pm

      This reminds me of the one Television character who did “survive and abortion” Charlie Kelly!

    • LA Face, Oakland Booty (and

      October 21, 2014 at 5:03 pm

    • Sherri

      October 21, 2014 at 1:24 pm

      I would argue that Tiana, Rapunzel and Merida are just as active in their story as Elsa and Anna are in theirs. Same with Pocahontas (who is technically a Disney princess despite not being a princess) and Mulan (also technically a Disney princess). Of the princesses, Snow, Aurora, Cindy and Jasmine are the quintessential “damsels” who don’t do jack. Ariel is in the middle (she took her own initiative, despite the steps taken) as she had to be saved. So, old school princesses versus recent princesses are two entirely different things. I think it’s because of the criticism that Disney faced about the messages that they’re portraying that we now have princesses like Tiana, Rapunzel, Merida and Anna. (Elsa is a queen, so she doesn’t really count.)

      …..and I clearly spend way to much time thinking about shit like this. Carry on.

    • LA Face, Oakland Booty (and

      October 21, 2014 at 1:29 pm

      Mulan and Merida are tied for my all-time favorite princesses. I like my princesses to have a defiant streak, apparently.

    • Sherri

      October 21, 2014 at 1:32 pm

      Dude. Mulan is fucking awesome. Although my favorite princess is still Aurora because do you know how amazing it would be to just sleep all the time?? 😀

    • Elizabeth Wakefield

      October 21, 2014 at 2:03 pm

      I cry at the end of Brave because I TOTALLY GET the frustrating relationship between a teenage daughter and her mother.

    • LA Face, Oakland Booty (and

      October 21, 2014 at 2:04 pm

      Me too. Also, I watched it in the theater with my own teenage daughter and I had all the feelings. ALL OF THEM.

    • pixie Ninja Tits

      October 21, 2014 at 3:12 pm

      I cry EVERY time I watch that movie because I get all the feels.

    • pixie Ninja Tits

      October 21, 2014 at 3:12 pm

      Merida is my favourite, hands down.

    • Looby

      October 21, 2014 at 4:24 pm

      Mulan isn’t even a princess. She’s been Co-opted to fulfil some Kerazy liberal quota

    • LA Face, Oakland Booty (and

      October 21, 2014 at 5:01 pm

      Maybe, but she is still a badass.

    • WarriorMermaids

      October 21, 2014 at 5:03 pm

      Yeah, the more recent princess movies make an active effort to make them active, developed characters. Belle and Ariel were prototypes; both want something other than a prince (for Ariel, the prince is just a catalyst, he pushes her over the edge she was standing on for her to try and get on land) though still end up having a lot of romance focus and need a bit of saving. Mulan went off to war and romance was only implied at the end, Rapunzel wanted to leave the tower and see the lights and just got a romance on the side, (and the ending makes it clear they didn’t get married right away, a clear attempt at subverting the whole “marry someone you met a week ago” thing) Tiana was an active workaholic with no interest in romance until later, Elsa had no love interest and Anna’s beliefs in “love at first sight” were soon smashed.

    • Sherri

      October 21, 2014 at 6:02 pm

      Anna I don’t think even really wanted love – she wanted companionship. She wanted to not be alone. I honestly think that if Disney had given her a friend, she still would have been fine and wouldn’t have the slightest personality change.

    • WarriorMermaids

      October 22, 2014 at 1:15 am

      True. She talks about how she wants romance, but that’s pretty clearly a product of her sheltered life and isolation. She doesn’t know what she wants because she doesn’t have much in her life to compare her own life to. It’s suggested she spent a lot of time looking at the paintings in her home, most depicting scenes of romance and filling her head with that.

    • SunnyD847

      October 22, 2014 at 1:28 am

      Like so many of the teen moms I usedntonteach who got pregnant just to have some love in their shitty lives.

    • Sherri

      October 22, 2014 at 10:48 am


    • SunnyD847

      October 22, 2014 at 1:27 am

      Beauty and the Beast was my favorite fairy tale growing up because it was the only one where the heroine is rewarded for her actions (being kind, loving the beast despite his appearance) and not just for being beautiful. I hated The Frog Prince (story, not the Tiana one) because she was a straight-up BITCH and still got to marry the prince.

    • Angela

      October 21, 2014 at 1:30 pm

      I totally get it. I’m also sick of how everything for girls has to be princesses and pink and sparkles. I love it when I see girls that want to branch out into something else. And yet, I also get that a lot of girls really love princesses.

      This year I volunteered at my state’s Little Miss Wheelchair pageant. It wasn’t really a competition. All the girls got to get dressed up, show off their talents, and they all got an award for something. After the pageant they had a celebratory tea party and our state’s Miss Wheelchair came dressed as Elsa. The girls went ballistic. One of the moms actually broke down in tears because her daughter had recently been told by her classmates that she couldn’t play princesses with them because you can’t be a princess in a wheelchair. It was so amazing to see how much it meant for the girls to see that they can be just as pretty and special as anyone else. An appearance from Nemo would not have been nearly as powerful.

    • tk88

      October 21, 2014 at 1:44 pm

      That is a touching story about the girls in wheelchairs. I can understand that but it wouldn’t be so powerful if princesses weren’t idolized like this. Although to be fair with all the inbred royals a special needs princess is rather realistic!

    • LA Face, Oakland Booty (and

      October 21, 2014 at 1:47 pm

      HOLY CRAP. I don’t know if you realize how bad this comment sounds.

    • tk88

      October 21, 2014 at 1:49 pm

      I’m making fun of inbred royals not disabled children. And really there have been a good number of princesses and princes afflicted with severe illnesses or other disabilities.

    • LA Face, Oakland Booty (and

      October 21, 2014 at 1:52 pm

      By implying that inbred royals are producing “special needs” children, you sort of sound like you are saying that special needs children are defective and the result of defective relationships.

    • Jen TheTit Whisperer

      October 21, 2014 at 1:54 pm

      The definitely came across as special needs=inbred.

    • tk88

      October 21, 2014 at 1:59 pm

      I in no way meant that. I know special needs children are the result of genetic anomalies, environmental contaminants. problems during pregnancy and delivery, accidents or even abuse and neglect. I’m not looking to insult any special needs parent or child. Im pretty sure the percentage of special needs children who have related parents is below one percent. It was just a joke.

    • Elizabeth Wakefield

      October 21, 2014 at 2:00 pm

      But can you reread your statement and see how the “joke” part might not have translated well over the internet?

    • tk88

      October 21, 2014 at 2:06 pm

      Yes I realized that and apologize if I offended anyone.

    • Elizabeth Wakefield

      October 21, 2014 at 2:16 pm

      Thank you.

    • tk88

      October 21, 2014 at 2:54 pm

      Just because I feel the need to explain myself further I wanted to add that most of the kids/teens I’ve been closest with or spent years taking care of (and who for all intents and purposes except for legal, are mine) have had various special needs such as attachment issues, PTSD, autistic like disorders and other severe mental health issues. My no holds bar sense of humor has helped me and those close to me with the regular crises and deaths/losses that occur. Sometimes I forget how other people find this offensive and not a welcome relief to laugh at the insanity.

    • Elizabeth Wakefield

      October 21, 2014 at 3:07 pm

      I get that – I teach middle school and sometimes I have to laugh at situations in order not to feel helpless. But I think that since it was written and translated across the internet, the exact effect you were looking for was lost.

    • Elizabeth Wakefield

      October 21, 2014 at 1:52 pm

      You might have taken an initial swat at the royals, but you managed to insult both royals and special needs children all at the same time.

    • Anthony Boardgame

      November 1, 2014 at 12:09 pm

      You don’t have to watch Disney if you don’t like it. It’s not there to replace your parenting.

    • CrazyFor Kate

      October 21, 2014 at 1:52 pm

      I don’t know if you have princess-y kids (or kids at all), but for parents struggling with The Princess in their house, a great idea would be showing badass princesses/queens in history, who led great military campaigns or were very cultured or provoked great change in society – or in modern circumstances, managed to have thriving lives outside of being royal. Almost every culture has an example. You could say something like “Sure, Princess Kate is pretty cool, but did you know about Queen Elizabeth I, who ______”.

    • Aldonza

      October 21, 2014 at 2:19 pm

      I looooove teaching my classes about various historical royals. There were some true bad-asses, and also just some fascinating history.

    • StoonGirl

      October 21, 2014 at 2:22 pm

      Ohh yes!! Have you read Love it. I’m going to have to filter all the “fuck yahs!” out once my kids are at history-learning age, but it’s a gold mine of historical awesome women.

    • noodlestein's danger tits

      October 21, 2014 at 4:35 pm

      Here’s another good one:

    • Grr! Arrgh!

      October 21, 2014 at 3:00 pm

      Two handed sword! Horse that jumped over fire pits! Rebellion against the British empire! We almost named our daughter after her.

    • Looby

      October 21, 2014 at 4:30 pm

      Y8up this is why I named the Boozle after one of the most powerful Queens in Medieveal History. A woman who acted as regent and was Duchess of her own lands in her own right

    • CrazyFor Kate

      October 21, 2014 at 5:12 pm


    • Looby

      October 22, 2014 at 9:52 am

      thats the one

    • Anthony Boardgame

      November 1, 2014 at 12:24 pm

      Badass? You mean, entitled and cruel, often treacherous.

    • Anthony Boardgame

      November 1, 2014 at 12:15 pm

      Overreacting to a ridiculous degree, is forming a massive petition and making a global scene because you don’t see your exact vision in someone elses production.

  3. Ursi

    October 21, 2014 at 11:41 am

    I love that one of these idiots thinks that disability is not an appropriate topic for a Disney movie but abortion is.

    And yes, I do want to see a lesbian princess within my lifetime. She kisses the girl at the end. WHOA SHOCKING.

    • rockmonster

      October 21, 2014 at 11:47 am

      At the risk of sounding like a big dumbass, how exactly does one survive abortion?

    • guest

      October 21, 2014 at 11:53 am

      Well according to the Duggars…you’re born, you put on a shirt that says “I survived Roe vs. Wade” and there you have it.

    • guest

      October 21, 2014 at 11:54 am

      But in reality they’re making it sound like someone went in that uterus to abort the baby but somehow the baby hid and magically survived so Idk that that would be a very Disney-worthy story.

    • LA Face, Oakland Booty (and

      October 21, 2014 at 11:56 am

      Maybe they are advocating teaching babies in utero how to escape and evade abortion attempts? I imagine something on the order of Navy SEAL training for the little buggers.

    • noodlestein's danger tits

      October 21, 2014 at 12:19 pm

      NINJA fetuses.

    • Stephanie

      October 21, 2014 at 12:35 pm

      They’d be featured on “I Didn’t Know I was Pregnant”

    • noodlestein's danger tits

      October 21, 2014 at 1:03 pm


    • my opinion

      October 21, 2014 at 6:22 pm

      please look it up before you make a stupid comment.

    • kerriouch

      October 21, 2014 at 10:28 pm

      I’ve read about abortions that somehow were botched and the child was born, but uh: this princess was an unwanted pregnancy, but try as they might, the King and Queen just couldn’t get an abortion to stick, but now she’s beautiful, sings well and marries a prince so win/win, WTF?

    • CrazyFor Kate

      October 21, 2014 at 1:38 pm

      Apparently, it does happen, though it’s rare and happens only in late term (obviously) – the fetus comes out alive and is sent to the NICU and cared for, usually suffering injury in the process, OR the abortion doesn’t “take” and nothing happens (this one is almost impossible and usually has to be “completed” rather than just being left), OR there’s a twin who is missed. There are a few people who are motivational speakers, etc and claim to be abortion survivors. No idea if their stories are verified though.

    • Victoria

      October 21, 2014 at 5:09 pm

      There are rare cases with late-term abortions where the fetus is born viable and lives, but I know antis who consider anyone deciding not to have an abortion “surviving abortion.”

    • Greta Young

      October 21, 2014 at 5:16 pm

      Not sure. I’ve been scratching my head about that one. Just like the bumper sticker I had the pleasure of being stuck behind in today’s commute that said “Abortion STOPS a beating heart” and I was like, “Well, I guess, except in cases where it happens during the egg-sac phase of development, before a heartbeat can even be detected…”

      Logic/reason doesn’t seem to apply well to most catch-phrases.

    • my opinion

      October 21, 2014 at 6:15 pm

      @ rockmonster, Look it up on Yahoo, (Stories of People who survived abortions,) There are a lot of them. They were aborted alive or they tried abort them to find out later they did not and the women went on to have it. there are even People who survived the normal saline abortions, It burns the baby from the inside out, But there has been cases of babies surviving them. Some are lucky they have no last problem, but there are some who it has hurt them. But there would be more if some Dr would not kill the babies after they are born.

    • Elizabeth Wakefield

      October 21, 2014 at 6:19 pm

      Is Yahoo the best source for this information? There are also people on You Tube that tell me GWBush was behind the 9/11 attacks and that the Illuminati are trying to control my child through Mickey Mouse Clubhouse.

    • my opinion

      October 21, 2014 at 6:36 pm


      10 Abortion Survivors

      ISAAC CABE AUGUST 20, 2013

      Abortion is a very hot-button issue that can send good friends into heated arguments. But no matter what your stance is on abortion, the one irrefutable fact is that it is an intense medical procedure. And abortion, like any medical procedure, has the potential to go wrong. The only difference with abortion is that a “failed” one typically leads to the premature birth of a child. We won’t waste your time with gross pictures or politics, just the stories of 10 people who say they’ve survived an abortion and decided to prove from the start how hard it would be to take them out completely.

      10Melissa Ohden

      Melissa Ohden was born under less than ideal circumstances in 1977. Her birth mother decided to abort her through a saline abortion while about seven months pregnant. A saline abortion is different from most abortions in that it takes longer to complete. A fetus is surrounded with a solution that is meant to burn it to death and can take hours upon hours to completely work. According to Melissa, when this process did not work as planned, her infant body was thrown away. Melissa claims that a nurse found her crying in a garbage can and saved her life.

      Melissa appeared in a pro-life ad prior to the 2012 United States Presidential Election denouncing Barack Obama’s stance on abortion, in which she shared part of her story. She survived the abortion relatively unscathed and today holds a master’s degree in social work. In 2008, she gave birth to her own child in the very hospital that her mother tried to abort her in.

      9Gianna Jessen

      Gianna Jessen’s story is very much like Melissa Ohden’s, right down to the birth year, though the effect of abortion was much worse in Gianna’s case. Gianna’s mother was a 17-year-old girl who was not ready to have a child and decided to have a saline abortion in the third trimester. Gianna spent over 18 hours in the solution, but eventually forced a birth. Delivered at just over two pounds, she was put up for adoption. At a very early age, she was diagnosed with cerebral palsy as a result of the saline burning and her foster parents were told that basic tasks such as walking and talking would be incredibly difficult for her.

      However, Gianna hasn’t let this stop her. Though her muscles throughout much of her life were very weak, she worked hard to exercise them and eventually ran the London Marathon. She maintains an active lifestyle and now spends much of her time as a speaker, motivating young people to make good choices.

      8Sarah Brown

      Sarah Elizabeth Brown was carried very nearly to term—in fact, she was at 36 weeks when her mother decided not to keep her. Nevertheless, she traveled out to Dr. George Tiller, a late-term abortionist who lived in Kansas. Dr. Tiller was then known for having one of the most pristine records in providing abortions, having never killed a mother during one.

      Sarah was to be aborted through the use of potassium chloride, but didn’t take to the poison injection the way she should have. Instead of the needle piercing Sarah’s heart, it punctured her brain. Sarah ended up being birthed not long after and was adopted. She was blind, had a stroke at about six months old, and finally passed away from kidney failure at age five. Despite this, she was said to have been as happy and normal a child as could be expected. Dr. Tiller, the man who provided the abortion, was assassinated by a pro-life vigilante several years later.

      7Josiah Presley

      Josiah is a young man living in Oklahoma who is now very involved in a movement called Abolitionism. While in years past the abolition movement fought things like slavery, their primary focus today is to completely eradicate abortion as an option for pregnant women. Josiah has plenty of reason to oppose it, as he was born as the result of a botched abortion in Korea and now has a maimed arm. He was adopted by a family in Oklahoma and is now grown and healthy. His biggest claim to fame thus far has been as the primary speaker in an ad released to contend the Personhood Amendment that was debated in Oklahoma a couple years back.

      6Brandi Lozier

      Brandi Lozier is a Louisiana native who was scheduled to be aborted through a saline procedure as her mother was a little over four months pregnant. After the procedure was through and Brandi was determined to be a dead fetus, the staff at the clinic prepared to dispose of her body. As they were about to do so, she reportedly raised an arm and was allowed to be revived.

      Today, Brandi works literally around the clock as a pro-life advocate and offers her services as a speaker for rallies, church events, and other such programs where she relates her story. She’ll sometimes hold vigil outside state buildings for days or weeks at a time. One of her biggest engagements so far has been as the primary speaker at a pro-life rally being held outside the Democratic National Convention in Colorado.

      5Dr. Imre Teglasy

      Dr. Teglasy’s story is unique in that he survived an abortion before there were really standardized procedures for it. His parents were being deported from their home country when his mother discovered that she was pregnant. She wanted an abortion, but had no way to get one. Despite her husband’s protests, she attempted the abortion herself but was unsuccessful.

      Dr. Teglasy survived and was born a healthy boy, though he claims his relationship with his mother was very complicated throughout his life. And that was before his father told him the story behind his birth. Today, he holds a doctorate in literature and is an advocate for women having crisis pregnancies, operating a hotline that’s available to assist them.

      4Claire Culwell

      Claire’s birth mother became pregnant at the incredibly young age of 13. Because 13 is so young to be having children, from both a medical and economic standpoint, Claire’s mother went to an abortion clinic. The abortion was successful, and she left the clinic. A few weeks later, her belly was still growing and she went back to the clinic. There, the doctor told her something she could never have expected to hear—she was still pregnant. The first abortion had only eliminated the first in a set of twins.

      A couple weeks later, Claire was delivered prematurely and very frail. The lower half of her body was in bad condition, and she required an exceptional amount of physical therapy as an infant to help her hips, legs, and feet grow into a normal position. Claire and her birth mother now have a good relationship with each other. Claire even considers her birth mother her “hero,” because she didn’t have a second abortion: She now believes that they’re changing lives because of it.

      3Carrie Holland-Fischer

      Carrie Holland-Fischer spent much of her childhood being bullied for her appearance. According to this video she made, the ridicule from her peers and teachers was constant and the things they told her were the same. She grew up believing that because of her disfiguration, she would never live a normal life and would never have children. These were hard things for her to hear, so she attempted suicide by drinking a whole bottle of wine and swallowing a bottle of pills.

      When this failed, she decided that her life had a purpose to it, and she now spends her life as a speaker who tries to convince young women that they are beautiful no matter what. Not only did she survive her suicide attempt, it turned out that she survived an abortion attempt as well, which is what caused her disfiguration and health problems in the first place. Carrie is now happily married and was able to become pregnant against the odds.

      2Keira Harmsworth

      One of the younger survivors on this list, Keira still has a lot of life left ahead of her. Her mother Chelsea was 16 when she discovered she was pregnant and reportedly made the decision to have an abortion at about 10 weeks of pregnancy. Chelsea thought that the procedure was done and over with, but continued to feel normal signs of pregnancy over the next couple of months. After about five months, Chelsea returned to the doctor only to learn that the abortion had failed. Completely shocked, Chelsea suddenly felt bad about her previous abortion attempt and carried the pregnancy to term. Baby Keira was the result. Though the abortion caused some developmental damage to her hands, she is a happy and healthy young girl, and Chelsea claims that the two have a great relationship.

      1Finley Crampton

      Finley Crampton comes from a family with some significant problems in its medical history. His mother, Jodie Percival, carries a gene that causes kidney problems in children that develop in her womb. She lost her first child to kidney issues after only about 20 minutes. The second child also had kidney issues, but survived and today lives with just one kidney.

      Finley was conceived while Jodie was on birth control medication, and she decided to have an abortion procedure at eight weeks rather than have to go through the pain of losing a child again. However, a few months later she noticed her belly expanding still, and doctors informed her that she was still pregnant. Jodie carried Finley to term, and he was born at a little over six pounds. He still has kidney issues like the first two children did, but is expected to live a normal life after beating out contraception and an abortion in order to come into the world.

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    • my opinion

      October 21, 2014 at 10:16 pm

      That is all Written By Liberals, that is all Bullshit! Those were all real Facts I gave you from real people.

    • Elizabeth Wakefield

      October 22, 2014 at 6:15 pm

      From the Cracked website? Seriously? You might as well as quoted College Humor. Also….liberals ARE real people. You might not agree with their opinion, but they do, in fact, exist.

    • Looby

      October 23, 2014 at 6:18 pm

      OMG Liberals are not real people. Those pesky extra-terrestrials coming down here and taking all the liberal viewpoints, and ZOMG using actual facts…. Its just not cricket.

    • rockmonster

      October 22, 2014 at 12:27 am

      Did the person below just call liberals fake people?

    • Redd

      October 25, 2014 at 7:24 am

      Unfortunately, liberals do exist.

    • CrazyFor Kate

      October 21, 2014 at 1:40 pm

      How about a trans princess or prince? They kind of explored cross-gender stuff in Mulan and got a pretty song out of it, but wouldn’t it be awesome to have a young princess who genuinely decided to become a prince (or vice versa)? I would watch that and take all the kids I know.

    • Ursi

      October 21, 2014 at 1:41 pm

      That would be amazing and I support it 100%

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    • aliceblue

      October 21, 2014 at 4:54 pm

      Amazing that these people are fine with a princess kissing a frog or a “beast” (just how many letters from “bestiality” is that?;) but kissing another princess blows their teeny-tiny minds. Just pathetic.

    • guest

      October 21, 2014 at 6:34 pm

      With technology these day, technically a princess with down syndrome was obviously chosen not to be aborted. So that person’s shit opinion is void. Disney blows when it comes to diversity and reality. Hell, my son thought the only reason people get married was to be a princess/prince. I had to explain to him that mommy would in fact never be a princess.

    • Anthony Boardgame

      November 1, 2014 at 12:16 pm

      Disney isn’t here to teach diversity and reality. That’s why they make 2 dimensional cartoons. Maybe you should stop letting your kids watch TV if they are still too young and impressionable to make sense of what’s going on. It’s YOUR JOB to teach your kids about reality. You’re right, mommy will never be a princess because she doesn’t know how to act like one.

    • Anthony Boardgame

      November 1, 2014 at 12:13 pm

      You don’t “want,” you demand.

  4. Katherine Handcock

    October 21, 2014 at 11:49 am

    I thought people were already arguing that Elsa was a lesbian princess. Or was that Merida? Maybe it was both. Whatever.

    I’d love to see more diversity in Disney princesses, period, I don’t care how they do it!

    • rockmonster

      October 21, 2014 at 11:55 am

      Both. Colbert tackled the Merida rumors.

    • Sri

      October 21, 2014 at 12:36 pm

      Basically, any princess that doesn’t want/need a prince is labeled a lesbian by people on the fringe. If it’s a person wanting diversity and representation, rock on, I think there should be more LGBTQIA representation in media, too, but there’s also the “OMG DISNEY IS TRYING TO CORRUPT OUR CHILDREN WITH TEH GAY. LIBRUL MEDIA! OBAMA!” brigade.

  5. KarenMS

    October 21, 2014 at 11:53 am

    Why do these people think asking and suggesting is so wrong?? That’s a free market if I ever heard of one. You want something, suggest it to the company and see what happens. A petition is just a quick way to have lots of people ask at once. It’s not “demanding” that everyone bend to their will.

  6. Jen TheTit Whisperer

    October 21, 2014 at 11:53 am

    So does poster in #6 think this lady has the only child diagnosed with Down’s Syndrome? I’m not following how that’s self centered. I mean there are only like 50 movies with pretty typically developed physically capable pretty thin white girls as the heroine. Isn’t it a bit self centered to demand that ALL of them be this way? Seriously so much stupid.

    • LA Face, Oakland Booty (and

      October 21, 2014 at 11:55 am

      Also, why is ‘lesbian’ in double quotes? Does he not believe that they are lesbians? Does he not believe that lesbians exist? I do not understand.

      ETA: Love the ominous “These demands will never end” warning.

    • Jen TheTit Whisperer

      October 21, 2014 at 11:58 am

      Quotes are very confusing for some people, I think life is hard for some of these posters.

    • LA Face, Oakland Booty (and

      October 21, 2014 at 12:00 pm

      True. I imagine one doesn’t have much time for book learning when they are so devoted to being outraged by reasonable requests that will in no way affect their lives.

  7. TheQuirkyDiva

    October 21, 2014 at 11:55 am

    Just for freaking once, I’d like to read an article like this where the comments were cherry picked from the positive responses. Yes, we all know there are mean people out there. This is no surprise to anyone. Are you afraid a headline like “Warm Support for This Mom’s Petition for a Special-Needs Princess” wouldn’t generate enough clicks? Even an article about the original petition, sans troll comments, would have been interesting. When you repeat these ugly, idiotic arguments, you’re just turning the Internet into a vast echo chamber where stupidity gets repeated ad nauseum.

    • KarenMS

      October 21, 2014 at 12:14 pm

      I like to vent about the mean people here, otherwise I bore my family.

    • LA Face, Oakland Booty (and

      October 21, 2014 at 12:15 pm


    • guest

      October 21, 2014 at 12:19 pm

      That would be nice. Or OR we could do a negative story and a postive story. I would like that. Some days I’m all about the rage but somedays I would like to read some uplifting bizness.

    • LA Face, Oakland Booty (and

      October 21, 2014 at 12:21 pm

      THere is already a sexy mermaid photo shoot article. Sheesh. What more do you want? Blood? 😛

  8. guest

    October 21, 2014 at 11:56 am

    #6 makes no sense whatsoever. Oh, you’d like something that your kid could relate to? Well fuck you you self centered idiot!! Um, wut?
    Also #7 “lesbian”? It is lesbian. They exist. They’re not made up.

    • rockmonster

      October 21, 2014 at 11:57 am

      Lesbians are unicorns!

    • LA Face, Oakland Booty (and

      October 21, 2014 at 12:03 pm

      Maybe! I once read a comment about feminism where the woman declared that feminists are “a bunch of pretend lesbians”, so IDK.

    • rockmonster

      October 21, 2014 at 12:05 pm

      To be fair, there are those who advocate for women choosing to (try to) be lesbian.

    • LA Face, Oakland Booty (and

      October 21, 2014 at 12:15 pm

      Isn’t that what college is all about?

    • Wicked Prophet Kay Sue

      October 21, 2014 at 12:05 pm

      Rainbow colored unicorns. 🙂

    • whiteroses

      October 21, 2014 at 3:37 pm

      That fart hamburgers so nobody in any school is ever hungry 🙂

    • Wicked Prophet Kay Sue

      October 21, 2014 at 5:57 pm

      Fart hamburgers are the best.

  9. LA Face, Oakland Booty (and

    October 21, 2014 at 12:02 pm

    I love #5 – just submit a screenplay because everyone knows that all you have to do is send a screenplay to DIsney and they’ll rush to make a movie out of it. Duh! That is why there are no struggling screenwriters out there. They are all bajillionaires.

  10. Wicked Prophet Kay Sue

    October 21, 2014 at 12:04 pm

    That first one…that one really escalated quickly….

  11. keelhaulrose

    October 21, 2014 at 12:11 pm

    Oh, boy, Nemo had a physical disability and Dory couldn’t remember anything, and that one pirate in Pirates of the Caribbean had a wooden eye, and Captain Hook is missing a hand, and there have been the occasional characters in wheelchairs. What more do you people want? How dare you want a character with Down Syndrome or Autism or Cerebral Palsy or whatever who a little girl could look up to! Social/emotional/mental special needs are supposed to be comic relief, right?

    To be honest I’d love my daughter to be able to see a character like herself who is the heroine. With the exception of Dory pretty much all characters with special needs are male, many are comic relief or villains. Yes, if she were a little older she could see a lot of herself in Spencer Reid on Criminal Minds but that is certainly a long way off a singing cartoon character.

    • LA Face, Oakland Booty (and

      October 21, 2014 at 12:13 pm

      When I read nonsense like the comments AImee listed, all I can think is that these people must really, really hate differently-abled people. I mean, why else would they be so super offended that someone dare even suggest that they be represented in film? I just don’t understand it.

    • noodlestein's danger tits

      October 21, 2014 at 12:25 pm

      I think that people like this see these kinds of requests as accusations. They feel bombarded by people who want the world to open up to everyone, like it’s some comment on the way they are living their lives. It’s like talking about racism. Whenever it’s brought up, a lot of white pople will rush to say, “Well, I”M not racist.” To people like that, and these commentors featured here, everything is about them. So, to them, this kind of stuff is threatening, because they think that everyone is hating on them for doing it wrong. That’s the only thing I can think of.

    • guest

      October 21, 2014 at 12:28 pm

      I’m always alarmed when I read comments like that that these are the people I see at the store, driving, or at school. If someone have that much hatred for someone different than you (through no fault of their own) I’m scared to have them near me.

    • DreamGene-y

      October 21, 2014 at 1:05 pm

      I imagine these are the types of people who look away when they see someone with a disability in public. You know the ones who like to pretend it doesn’t exist outside of group homes and hospitals. The ones with looks of pity or fake concern when they do (gasp) have to interact with someone with a disability.

    • Liz

      October 21, 2014 at 1:16 pm

      There’s also the Hunchback of Notre Dame, which I seem to recall was a pretty terrible Disney effort, and not one that I’m all that likely to introduce to my kids.

    • CrazyFor Kate

      October 21, 2014 at 1:54 pm

      The music was really good, and a lot of the animation, but the story needed a LOT of work, and screw the gargoyles.

  12. Airbones

    October 21, 2014 at 12:12 pm

    Is anyone else crying from laughing at the first one? Poor Prince Charming.

    • LA Face, Oakland Booty (and

      October 21, 2014 at 12:16 pm

      Yep! Poor rich, powerful Prince Charming can’t escape his drunken, pill-abusing, shrew of a wife.

    • Sherri

      October 21, 2014 at 1:26 pm

      Maybe he doesn’t believe in divorce. Or that he deserves it for marrying someone he never bothered to get to know. WHO KNOWS.

    • LA Face, Oakland Booty (and

      October 21, 2014 at 1:30 pm

      Why get to know her when you can claim her like a possession?

    • Sherri

      October 21, 2014 at 1:34 pm

      See? Totally his fault.

    • whiteroses

      October 21, 2014 at 3:45 pm

      Methinks that dude is pulling from his own life…

    • Airbones

      October 21, 2014 at 4:03 pm

      Jumping the neighbor’s fence (whatever that means).

  13. Maggie Mae

    October 21, 2014 at 12:25 pm

    i think a disabled princess is a wonderful idea. Both for the disabled children who will be watching and for the “typical” children. The disabled children would see someone like them on the screen and have someone to relate to and the Non-disabled kids would have postive exposure to people different from themselves.

    And I would kill for a non-straight disney princess. And for a Disney movie featuring a non- traditional family.

    • Stephanie

      October 21, 2014 at 12:39 pm

      To be fair – a lot of them were raised by single dads. Ariel, Belle, Snow White, Cinderella.

    • Liz

      October 21, 2014 at 1:13 pm

      I would argue that almost all Disney movies feature single-parent household.

    • CrazyFor Kate

      October 21, 2014 at 1:53 pm

      It would be nice to have a supportive stepmother!

    • Aldonza

      October 21, 2014 at 2:20 pm

      Yes! Most Step-parents are wonderful loving people who want what’s best for the kids.

    • SunnyD847

      October 22, 2014 at 1:20 am

      What? That’s crazy talk! Everyone knows stepmothers are EEEEVIL! (I actually thought I was “supposed” to hate my step-mom who is now one of my closest friends )

    • Jayamama

      October 21, 2014 at 5:04 pm

      And Aurora was raised by three women.

    • Anthony Boardgame

      November 1, 2014 at 12:07 pm

      Yeah, because children REALLY need to be indoctrinated with adult sexuality.

      It’s all about YOU, really.

  14. Courtney Lynn

    October 21, 2014 at 12:32 pm

    These people are absolutely abhorrent, vile, horrible human beings. All of them.

    • Anthony Boardgame

      November 1, 2014 at 12:10 pm

      Sounds so loving of you.

    • Courtney Lynn

      November 2, 2014 at 4:09 pm

      Crap, I forgot to sign it “Love Always”.

  15. Kitsune

    October 21, 2014 at 1:01 pm

    Everyone needs to see themselves represented. When you don’t see yourself reflected in characters it just drives home that you are other and not really important or wanted by society. I would also kill for a lesbian princess, I was really psyched when Once Upon A Time made Mulan bi. Maybe take a page from this Disney?

    • Kitsune

      October 21, 2014 at 1:03 pm

      Did my image not show up? I am disqus incompetent. It’s from Neil Gaiman’s The Sleeper and the Spindle.

    • Anthony Boardgame

      November 1, 2014 at 12:08 pm

      Sounds like a lot of you irrational people would “kill”.

  16. JessBakesCakes

    October 21, 2014 at 1:04 pm

    I absolutely think there needs to be more representation of different kinds of people in the media. Whether that is people with disabilities, people of different genders, races, or sexual orientations… I think media creators need to think of these characters as more than a cheap laugh or a stereotype or a quota to fill.

  17. Keston Ott-Dahl

    October 21, 2014 at 1:44 pm

    Aimee Ogden, what a GREAT way to call out the meanies! in public, I love it… I am the author and activist of the petition.

    There are some more doozies I saw out there…one meanie actually used the R word in referring to my little daughter. And you should see some of the personal messages I have received… I am so glad people like you stand up! By the way, if you go into the petition and scroll comments (and there are thousands) the kindness and encouragement might bring tears to your eyes.

    Anyways the petition is here if you would like to read some heartwarming messages.

    • Sariefloss86

      October 21, 2014 at 1:58 pm

      I personal think it was freaking awesome idea. It got me thinking about how there are a ton of Disney stories that could be greatly enriched or layered by the addition of a special need.

      Would the character of Anna have changed significantly if she had Down Syndrome? Not IMO. And then we would have one of the most kick-ass princesses of all time be extra specially kick-ass.

      I also think that the character Vanellope Von Schweetz would have been awesome in a wheel chair.

      I *really* hope Disney listens to your voice.

    • JessBakesCakes

      October 21, 2014 at 9:19 pm

      The person who used that horrifying word about your daughter is not a nice person, and I’m so sorry they said that to you.

      I hope that as your daughter grows up, there will be an increasing number of characters in all forms of media that she can find a connection to.

    • Anthony Boardgame

      November 1, 2014 at 12:20 pm

      Yeah, because we all have to be perfect to relate to characters in media. NOT.

    • Anthony Boardgame

      November 1, 2014 at 12:17 pm

      Keston, you’re the meanie. It’s people like you who make a political issue out of every thing that’s meant to entertain. Instead of petitioning for something meaningful, you’re trying to force your ideas upon a private company. This is all about garnering attention to your own perceived moral superiority and has nothing to actually do with improving the way DS children are treated.

  18. Sariefloss86

    October 21, 2014 at 1:46 pm

    Ummm, as I was reading this I thought how freaking cool it would have been if Vanellope was in a wheel chair.

    Or if sweet, kind hearted Anna, with her perseverance and unconditional love had Down Syndrome.

    Or if Mulan lost an arm and part of the story was coming to terms with that.

    It”s not very hard to see how special needs could work stunningly in existing movies. It does NOT have to be *about* the condition, the condition just has to be present in the the character. Of course you mention it, but I see no damage done to any of the stories by making the character special needs.

  19. CrazyFor Kate

    October 21, 2014 at 1:48 pm

    I think a princess with a physical disability is a very realistic next step for Disney – it wouldn’t be tough for her to say, have a bum leg or something and use a badass walking stick the whole time. They’d probably muck up the character, but it would be a start. A developmental issue, or something that’s harder to make “pretty” in their eyes (THEIR eyes), would be much harder for The Mouse to swallow, as much as many people would appreciate seeing it. So I think we’ll be waiting a long time for a Disney Princess with Down Syndrome, though I suspect Disney would have an easier time marketing it than they imagine. People who speak up, like the mom above, are key.

    And on another topic, it’ll be a cold day in hell before we see a Disney Princess that’s anything but stick-thin, sadly.

  20. Rachel Sea

    October 21, 2014 at 1:59 pm

    I don’t actually want to see Disney create a princess with Down’s, at least not this decade. I don’t think they’d pull it off with compassion. Ditto lesbian princess.

  21. Joye77

    October 21, 2014 at 4:02 pm

    I think a homosexual Disney character would be awesome!
    I hear plenty of people complain about how our society has become too politically correct, I call it just not being a jerk and respecting other’s feeling. usually those people are bigots and are just complaining that people get angry when they spew their crap.

    • Anthony Boardgame

      November 1, 2014 at 12:11 pm

      I call it being politically correct. That’s what it is.

  22. notenoughtocare

    October 21, 2014 at 6:02 pm

    If you want any character to represent a certain underrepresented group, you have to create it yourself. We need to build and maintain our own stuff. The people who control Disney or whomever is involved with it get to decide what will and will not be shown. The people in higher positions won’t kiss our asses just because we ask for it. Just being honest.

  23. my opinion

    October 21, 2014 at 6:10 pm

    I just say what is wrong with People, How Sad for all these Hateful, bigot People, They are the Bullies of Today. I would love to have a Male Hero and after he save’s the town, He then take’s off his mask and has DS. Something like Batman, spiderman. Why can’t they make a New Hero that has DS, Why can’t they have a girl superhero like Cat Women, that has DS. I love the idea that a Princess has DS. Why not. Some HS Kids are voted DS kids Prom Queen or King. Why Not? DS are Running their own businesses, getting college degree’s, They have boyfriends and girlfriends, They have gotten Married, They work, they are Artist. They are the kindest and most happy People. Why Not! I think it would be a great Disney movie. and what is a person afraid of if they have a gay Disney character will that make someone Gay. I just do not think that is important to a story line, But I say Why not. If you do not want to watch something like then then don’t. That’s your right. And What’s wrong with two Mommies or two Daddies That’s their life not your’s. Disney Please, You have a lot of Writer’s You can do it. I think that if their is anyone out there that like to write do it. Then go to I fund it and I bet you would have the Money to make that Movie. Love to see it.

    • Anthony Boardgame

      November 1, 2014 at 12:11 pm

      You don’t think it’s bullying for you to make demands of a private company, so that only YOUR perfect world is reflected in their artistic vision?

  24. Marisa Quinn-Haisu

    October 21, 2014 at 7:26 pm

    I think Disney isn’t that bad with being diverse. You have Pocahontas, Jasmine, etc. And their next movie is about a pacific islander girl I think. Perhaps instead of nagging Disney to create her ideal Princess this woman might consider writing her own children’s book about a disabled princess.

    • OptimusPrime*

      October 21, 2014 at 10:42 pm

      I’m all for downing on Disney, but, I actually agree. There is also Lilo (Native Hawaiian), Stitch (alien), an intriguingly diverse cast on some of their Disney Channel shows (Evermore, My Babysitter’s a Vampire, Ant Farm, Jessie), and inanimate objects falling in love. Heck, could we argue that Dory and Nemo’s father are an interracial couple? I’d love more diversity, but they are trying. A kid will see more diversity on Disney Channel than on CW or ABC Family most days.

  25. Kathryn Mackenzie

    October 21, 2014 at 11:00 pm

    I would love some lesbian Disney princesses. Just more lesbians in general really.

    • koolchicken

      October 22, 2014 at 3:12 am

      Technically there is a Disney princess who is a lesbian. Because Once Upon A Time is Disney owned (it’s why they’re allowed to feature Disney characters) and Mulan is still part of the official Disney Princess lineup.

      In the show Mulan is a lesbian and was about to make a move on Aurora but then Aurora went and announced her pregnancy. 🙁 In all fairness she was going to ask someone married to run away with her. It was unlikely to pan out (though I wish it would have). Hopefully she finds someone else and they show it.

  26. AP

    October 22, 2014 at 1:09 am

    This is a sweet idea, but Disney is not in the business of role models or representing everyone. They’re in the business of representing whatever moves the most merchandise: movie tickets, DVDs, music, coloring books, lunch boxes, T-shirts, etc. And that’s where the problem lies. A lot of people would happily watch a movie about a special needs princess. Those same people would probably feel that buying a lunchbox/t-shirt/complete bedding set emblazoned with the image with a special needs princess is exploitive, and would not buy the accompanying merchandise.

    And that’s before we figure in the “ignorant lout” factor, of the ignorant louts who wouldn’t spend a dime on the movie or merchandise.

    That said, there’s absolutely no reason why the live-action division couldn’t handle the topic more tastefully.

    • Anthony Boardgame

      November 1, 2014 at 12:25 pm

      No, you’re wrong! I should be represented in every Disney production! I want them to model it on me! ME ME ME.

  27. Anthony Boardgame

    November 1, 2014 at 12:06 pm

    This isn’t “asking” and “suggesting,” it’s very public petitioning and attention seeking. There is something very self-centered about expecting a private company to pander to your desires in a way that politicizes what are otherwise universal cartoons. If Disney wants to do Down Syndrome characters that’s great, but they don’t need to be pressured to do it. Why should they change their artistic vision for someone’s ego? This mother thinks her child needs a role model in a cartoon and that’s worrying enough, but goes further to say her child is incapable of identifying with “ordinary” caricatures. I didn’t grow up hoping all the characters on TV would be British and slightly small-framed, nor does everybody different require their own personal hero that caters to their own insecurities. Politicizing cartoons is sad – and it will not stop obviously as long as there are still loads of people out there who think they are saving the world with these pathetic displays of humble-pride.

  28. Anthony Boardgame

    November 1, 2014 at 12:21 pm

    Don’t forget that this mother “had a cow” over her lack of being able to control what she perceives as the best moral teachings for everyone.

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