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Anti-Vaxx Doc Unbelievably Uses Herd Immunity As A Reason Why His Patients Don’t Have To Vaccinate

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bobI’ve never heard of Dr. Bob Sears because I believe in vaccinations and recognize my social responsibility to public health. I guess if I didn’t, I may have searched him out or even bought his book, The Vaccine Book: Making the Right Decision for Your Child, like 250,000 other parents have. Apparently, the man has become a celebrity of sorts among parents who are afraid to vaccinate their children.

It’s been said Sears lends a sympathetic ear to those parents most physicians do not support — the ones who are afraid that vaccines do more harm than good. Dr. Sears does not seem to consider himself anti-vaccination, rather he sees himself as a balance between both sides of the debate. But as ScienceBlogs.com explains, his alternative schedules certainly aren’t supportive of public health:

while playing the “open-minded” “tell both sides” gambit, Dr. Sears credulously regurgitates virtually every anti-vaccine canard as though it had scientific validity. At the end, he presents his very own “alternative vaccine schedule,” which delays various vaccines and, according to Dr. Bob, is safer than the currently recommended schedule. All the while, he urges parents not to tell their neighbors if they don’t vaccinate in order not to spread their fears to others, because an increasing number of unvaccinated children will result in a decline in herd immunity and a resurgence of vaccine-preventable diseases.

About half his patients decide against vaccines altogether. The others follow his “alternative and selective” vaccination schedules, which delay or eliminate certain immunizations. This type of schedule has been proven to be dangerous. As it turns out — parents are not the best at keeping up with this kind of thing.

I’m not going to lie — I think any doctor who tells his patients it’s A-okay not to vaccinate their children is a danger to society. This particular doctor infuriates me even more, because one of the biggest arguments he uses to convince his patients it’s safe to leave their children unvaccinated is herd immunity. So basically he validates the effectiveness and importance of vaccinations in the same sentence that he advises his patients that they don’t need to get them. The LA Times reports on what he said at a conference this year:

“I do think the disease danger is low enough where I think you can safely raise an unvaccinated child in today’s society,” he said. “It may not be good for the public health. But … for your individual child, I think it is a safe enough choice.”

Herd immunity is what happens when enough of the public is immunized against disease for a long enough time – basically, the herd is safer because a large percentage of the population can not catch the disease due to vaccination. Herd immunity is very, very important for people who are immunocompromised and can not safely receive vaccinations.

“We eliminated endemic measles in the U.S. in 2000. It’s now 2014 and we’re at 400 cases. Why?” Dr. Paul Offit, chief of infectious diseases at Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia, said in an interview in June. The number of cases has since risen to nearly 600. “Because people listen to Bob Sears. And, frankly, I blame him far more than I do the Jenny McCarthys of this world. Because he’s a doctor. And he should know more.”

Maybe when these diseases start making epidemic-level comebacks, we will start refusing to allow doctors like Sears to practice medicine. Until that happens, he will get to espouse his anti-science b.s. to patients who are benefitting from the very thing that they are afraid of. Vaccinations and herd immunity are keeping your children safe, anti-vaxxers. Even one of your own is admitting it. So you will happily reap the benefits of herd immunity, while at the same time turning a blind eye to science?

That makes a lot of sense.

(photo: Twitter)

 

112 Comments

  1. shorty_RN

    September 8, 2014 at 12:10 pm

    Ah, Dr. Sears. Whenever we have patients bring children in who are on the “Sears schedule,” all of us nurses and doctors roll our eyes so hard. This guy sucks.

    • LK

      September 8, 2014 at 12:43 pm

      I have never understood alternative schedules. I’ve had several friends use them for their kids, and no one was ever able to articulate any reason other than just not wanting them to get “all that” at once, which seems fairly unscientific.

    • guestable

      September 8, 2014 at 12:52 pm

      Honestly, I’d rather my baby just get all the ones she can in one big go because it’s easier to deal with a baby who feels poorly for a few days once every few months than it is to deal with a baby who feels poorly every couple of weeks or month or whatever it is. 😛 I feel like all it does is alleviate parental worry while putting more stress on the baby.

    • journalgal2

      September 8, 2014 at 3:12 pm

      Exactly, When my daughter was little and I had to take her for vaccines at 2, 4 and 6 months, I felt like a bag of crap for having to hold this tiny baby as she got shots in her cute little fat rolls on her legs. But guess what – she was FINE. Barely a squeak out of her and no issues. Much harder on me. That’s the thing about being a grown-up, sometimes you have to strap on the big girl pants for the greater good of someone else.

    • Liz

      September 8, 2014 at 4:00 pm

      Yep. My baby was MISERABLE after her 2-month shots, so I thought about dividing up her 4-month shots, but I realized it’d probably mean having a miserable baby for 2 days rather than for 1.

    • the_ether

      September 9, 2014 at 6:54 pm

      Part of the reason I’m getting the Hep B vax for my kid at birth rather than waiting until 6 weeks – they’re getting the vitamin k shot anyway, why not get one of the vaccinations done right away

    • Jem

      September 8, 2014 at 1:10 pm

      The argument I’ve heard is that they want each shot individually instead of a combo shot so that if there is a reaction, they will know which vaccination Jr reacted to. This would be a logical argument, maybe, if the rate of vaccine reaction was even significant. But it’s not. But seriously the way the anti vaccine crowd paint it out to be is that the majority of kids have some reaction when that is definitely not true. Like you said, very unscientific reasoning.

    • KatDuck

      September 8, 2014 at 2:00 pm

      I’ve never had to make vaccine choices for anyone but myself, but emotionally I can kinda get it – I’m one of those unicorns that gets sick from the flu vaccine (usually have to stay home for one day and then deal with symptoms for a couple more) and the idea of one tiny body trying to deal with all those vaccines at once gives me pause … but that’s just my gut speaking and, while it’s accurate in other areas, it has yet to get off its butt and get a medical degree.

    • Spitting_mad

      September 8, 2014 at 2:52 pm

      But on the other hand, if your kid was a kid who felt pooptacular after a shot, wouldn’t it be better to get all that poopy feeling DONE than to have to miss work / make your kid feel like shit over and over and over again?

    • FishQueen

      September 8, 2014 at 3:14 pm

      Bonus points for pooptacular.

    • KatDuck

      September 8, 2014 at 6:49 pm

      Oh, totally. That’s why my gut doesn’t get to make those choices. It’s not the brightest in that way.

    • the_ether

      September 9, 2014 at 6:56 pm

      There’s a reason I go to a doctor when I’m sick rather than calling my mummy and asking what her gut feeling is. Medical training. And the fact that she’d tell me to go see a doctor, because she’s not insane.

    • Jessifer

      September 8, 2014 at 2:07 pm

      Is this the same Dr. Sears as the one who advocates attachment parenting, or are they different people?

    • wildrumpusmom

      September 8, 2014 at 2:09 pm

      It is he son I believe.

    • Linzon

      September 9, 2014 at 9:35 pm

      He is the result of the Dr Sears ‘parenting method.’

    • Surly Canuck

      September 8, 2014 at 3:04 pm

      I just finished my prenatal classes lead by a public health nurse and someone asked about his book. Her eyes bugged out. She very politely explained that “some of his opinions aren’t backed by evidence-based science” and left it at that. I think inside, she was screaming.

  2. G.S.

    September 8, 2014 at 12:20 pm

    Oh, suuuuuure. OTHER kids have to line up to get stabbed with the “scary, damaging vaccines,” but YOUR child doesn’t! YOUR child is the most superest-specialist, and who cares about the other kids’ health, either from getting the russian-roulette-style vaccines OR having the viruses mutate from being passed around enough kids (making the used vaccines less effective or even ineffective), as long as EVERYONE ELSE takes the “bullet,” YOUR kid is fine, and that’s all that matters!

    Even if vaccines were dangerous, go eat a dick, Bob.

    (And sorry if this makes no sense. I’m on new anti-depressants this week and can’t word all that great.)

    • Joy

      September 8, 2014 at 12:41 pm

      “Go eat a dick” was my exact sentiment upon reading this. Fuck this guy. “No problem, you don’t have to vaccinate Mommy’s Little Disease Vector because all these other suckers are doing it! Fuck everybody else’s kids, mine doesn’t have to get a boo-boo and that’s all that matters.” These people give me a rage stroke.

    • G.S.

      September 8, 2014 at 1:09 pm

      Yeah, and it’s like, can these people even do basic math? Because it’s not just one child ever. These are NUMEROUS kids out there that aren’t vaccinated because of the “Oh, it’s only ONE CHILD” mindset, where GROWN ADULTS can’t figure out “1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1=A SHITLOAD OF KIDS WHO AREN’T VACCINATED!!”

    • SunnyD847

      September 8, 2014 at 1:11 pm

      It makes total sense. Certainly more than this quack’s “yeah, fuck everyone else, as long as YOUR kid is safe” bullshit. Does he not realize that eroding herd immunity means EVERY child (and immune compromised adult) will be in greater danger? He should lose his license.

    • G.S.

      September 8, 2014 at 1:47 pm

      I’m honestly surprised he’s an actual doctor (you know, eight years in medical school and all) and not just a chiropractor.

  3. Jayamama

    September 8, 2014 at 12:22 pm

    This is actually the son of the Dr. Sears that we all are familiar with. As someone who owns this book, let me clarify some points in this article.

    He is not against all vaccines. He’s not even against any vaccines. He’s for informed choices. In the book, he goes through each vaccine, tells you the history of it, the ingredients, the pros and cons. Then he gives his recommendation. In the vast majority of them, he recommends getting them, and most of those he says to get on time. There are just a few that raise questions, and he wants his readers to be well-informed.

    I appreciated his book greatly, since my husband was against almost all vaccines, and this book helped me convince him to give them to our daughter. The only ones that I delayed were Hep B, chickenpox, and Hep A. The Hep B was because she was born at home and therefore didn’t get her first shot in the hospital, so she was behind. The last two were because they’re given at the same time as the MMR. The chickenpox and MMR are both live virus vaccines, and I didn’t feel comfortable giving her all that at one time. She got the chickenpox and Hep A at 15 months. If it weren’t for this book, I’m not sure if she’d be caught up at all. My second daughter has gotten all her shots so far, too.

    I understand the hype against anti-vaxxers because they’re causing their children to get easily-prevented diseases and possibly pass them on to others who can’t get the vaccines. But I really don’t think that this guy should be a huge target. His book is a few years old, before the anti-vaxxers really got going, and now that herd immunity is going to pot, I’d be curious to know if his stance has changed. In the meantime, I don’t think we should point fingers at the Sears family.

    • EX

      September 8, 2014 at 12:25 pm

      I appreciate the more thorough insight into his book and it sounds like something really good came out of it for you, but you must admit that telling people it’s OK not to vaccinate YOUR child (because everyone else is vaccinating their’s) is irresponsible for a physician.

    • Jayamama

      September 8, 2014 at 12:36 pm

      I think it’s questionable for any doctor to tell an odd patient or two that, though I can almost understand it if he’s trying to ease someone’s fears. I do think it’s very irresponsible to go online or TV and tell millions of people that they can skip vaccines, though. That’s a good way to completely destroy herd immunity. I’m not saying the guy’s perfect by any means. I’m just saying he’s not a complete monster.

    • LK

      September 8, 2014 at 12:46 pm

      I guess my question would be, why is he trying ease someone’s fears about not vaccinating. They should be afraid. Shouldn’t he steer patients towards the best medical advice not help them feel good about scientifically unsubstantiated decisions?

    • Foreskin Magpie

      September 8, 2014 at 1:30 pm

      *irresponsible for any decent human being, period

    • LadyClodia the Modest Rat

      September 8, 2014 at 12:29 pm

      The second quote is from just this year, though, so it doesn’t sound like he’s changed his position.

    • Rachel Sea

      September 8, 2014 at 12:47 pm

      He is advising parents to do something that does not do anything to reduce the incidence of negative vaccine outcomes, and does increase the risk of febrile seizures, while reducing herd immunity and increasing risk of death. He’s an idiot.

    • Jem

      September 8, 2014 at 1:13 pm

      That’s good to know that there is a lot more to the book than this. However, my fear is he has given an interview to a major newspaper where he said it is safe to not vaccinate. People looking for confirmation not to vaccinate aren’t going to read his book if they have that blurb to use.

    • Jayamama

      September 8, 2014 at 1:17 pm

      Yeah, that’s my major problem with him. He can believe what he wants and tell his patients what he decides, but going all over the press and media with these beliefs means that he’s dealing a much bigger hit to herd immunity, and basically ridding the country of the very thing that’s supposed to protect his patients. I don’t care so much on a small scale, but it’s much more irresponsible to tell this to millions.

    • SunnyD847

      September 8, 2014 at 1:19 pm

      Either way, he’s violating his oath to “first do no harm.”

    • Foreskin Magpie

      September 8, 2014 at 1:35 pm

      I’m not sure why you think it’s okay on a small scale, even. Why are those kids so precious? We all vaccinate our children because we care about our child AND everyone else’s children as well. Any parent who doesn’t care about the children in their community is a piece of shit.

    • Jen TheTit Whipper

      September 8, 2014 at 1:34 pm

      That he said he feels a child could be raised safely without vaccinations and completely discounts public health makes me question anything he wrote.

    • wildrumpusmom

      September 8, 2014 at 1:39 pm

      Clearly you have a level of common sense. However most ban wagon nitwits are just that nitwits and will only hear the it’s safe to not vaccinate your kids part. Therefore, this is completely and totally irresponsible.

    • alexesq33

      September 8, 2014 at 2:20 pm

      I guess I don’t really understand any “con” of vaccinating that is worse than a tiny baby GETTING said disease.

    • Uk mummy

      September 8, 2014 at 2:39 pm

      In the Uk we are not vaccinated against chicken pox. We do get all the others I think ( except possibly flu vaccine think that’s just if you have asthma or are an at risk group). All on the recommended schedule are free, you can pay about £10 for flu shots if you want

  4. EX

    September 8, 2014 at 12:22 pm

    Does he not hear himself when he speaks?

  5. LadyClodia the Modest Rat

    September 8, 2014 at 12:28 pm

    OK, so I’ve heard of Dr. William Sears; he’s the attachment parenting proponent, and this guy is one of his sons. It certainly doesn’t help that this Dr. Sears is probably riding on his family’s name, which helps to get his ideas out there. It’s irresponsible for him, as a doctor (or human being) to give advice like this when he knows that herd immunity is important. And also there seems to be a creepy “this is just between us, don’t tell anyone else I let you do this” thing going on. Not cool.

    • SunnyD847

      September 8, 2014 at 1:17 pm

      It just doesn’t make any sense. If he truly believes that vaccines are dangerous then it is his duty as a medical professional to inform the public. If he DOESN’T believe this and knows that herd immunity is beneficial, then it is his duty to advise his patients to get the vaccines. He can’t have it both ways.

    • Bleu Cheese Bewbs

      September 8, 2014 at 1:19 pm

      But having it both ways means he can maximize his book sales!

    • Véronique the Attachment Shark

      September 8, 2014 at 3:10 pm

      the problem is that he has a huge platform, co-hosting the show The Doctors.

    • journalgal2

      September 8, 2014 at 3:13 pm

      That’s Jim Sears, rather than this one (Bob). Brothers I think.

    • noodlestein's danger tits

      September 8, 2014 at 4:33 pm

      So the whole family has cockamamie ideas? Got it!

    • Sara610

      September 8, 2014 at 3:38 pm

      William (Bill) Sears, who is in his 80s and has actually seen children suffering from polio and measles, is a 100% proponent of vaccinating according to the CDC-recommended schedule. Funny how that works.

  6. Spongeworthy

    September 8, 2014 at 12:38 pm

    “It may not be good for the public health. But … for your individual child, I think it is a safe enough choice.”
    http://cdn4.gurl.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/alan-rickman-table-flip.gif

    • Katherine Handcock

      September 8, 2014 at 2:03 pm

      Never has this gif more accurately expressed how I feel.

    • Rachel Sea

      September 8, 2014 at 2:15 pm

      If I had fistfulls of money I would pay Alan Rickman to put on a sharp suit and flip desks at Bobby’s office.

    • Foreskin Magpie

      September 8, 2014 at 2:35 pm

      Let’s make a gofundme page!

    • Chris

      September 8, 2014 at 2:15 pm

      Man, leave it to Rickman to sum it up perfectly. Amen, brother.

    • KatDuck

      September 8, 2014 at 6:52 pm

      *stares for a while* I’m sorry, what were we talking about?

  7. MC Dangerfield

    September 8, 2014 at 12:39 pm

    When I was pregnant and panic ridden about the prospect of raising a child (that part hasn’t changed) I bought Dr. Sear’s attachment parenting handbook. Spent an evening with it, and haven’t cracked it since. Can’t say that I missed out.

  8. Bleu Cheese Bewbs

    September 8, 2014 at 12:42 pm

    I wonder if anti-vaxxers will trust this doctor because he is telling them what they want to hear, or if he is still part of Big Pharma.

  9. Rachel Sea

    September 8, 2014 at 12:48 pm

    Dear “Doctor” Sears,

    Please come to Sausalito, CA and tell us that thing about kids being protected by herd immunity. Oh how we shall LAUGH.

    P.S. Fuck you.

    • Henrysmama

      September 8, 2014 at 1:44 pm

      Living in Northern California and currently pregnant while also having a toddler who attends daycare makes me want to hunt down the good “doctor” and beat him into a bloody pulp. There seriously needs to be a law preventing unvaccinated children from attending non-private daycares and schools. It’s getting to the point where it’s necessary for our children’s safety.

    • wildrumpusmom

      September 8, 2014 at 1:47 pm

      I’ll join you from Maryland, where the school up the streel from me has both confirmed and suspected cases of whooping cough.

    • Rachel Sea

      September 8, 2014 at 1:58 pm

      15 years ago, when new Bay Area parents said they were afraid to take their babies out of the house I thought they sounded ridiculous. When new parents say that now I think they have made a sound assessment based on reliable data.

    • Foreskin Magpie

      September 8, 2014 at 2:24 pm

      Yup. I read somewhere that you can contract pertussis just from being within 6 feet of an infected person. The fact that I live in a community with high anti-vax rates makes me scared to take my infant out, want to move to a new city, terrified to enroll my toddler in any sort of morning program or take him to toddler activities, scared to have any more babies because by then I’ll have a school-aged child and the rate of unvaccinated kindergarteners just keeps creeping up… but yeah, it’s totally their personal choice!

    • Henrysmama

      September 8, 2014 at 4:00 pm

      Exactly. I feel even more helpless because I have a toddler who is likely coming in contact with anti-vax children and bringing those germs into our house with our soon to be newborn. It’s fucking infuriating.

    • Rachel Sea

      September 8, 2014 at 5:47 pm

      Back in 2006, I worked with a woman whose son was at a school that had to be closed against a pertussis epidemic. He was vaccinated, and didn’t get sick, but brought the germs into the office, and I caught it. Our beloved, immunocompromised receptionist had to stay home for weeks to make sure that anyone else who had been exposed didn’t transmit it to her.

      The only comfort I can offer is that schools are required to publish vaccination rates, so it is possible, if potentially inconvenient, to send your kid to a school with herd immunity, and to only take him to playgrounds in areas where PBEs are low.

    • Maria Guido

      September 8, 2014 at 3:34 pm

      I don’t blame you and I totally agree with that second part. Non-medical exemptions should not be a thing.

    • momma425

      September 8, 2014 at 3:24 pm

      Yeah, “herd immunity” only works if the herd is immune (meaning kids get their immunizations).

      Is there an island we can stick these people on? You don’t want to vaccinate, okay, but you need togo and live some else (of course this does not apply to peo who medically cannot get vaccinated).

    • Rachel Sea

      September 8, 2014 at 4:14 pm

      If I were the Boss of Everything all anti-vaxers (who are different from people with a legitimate medical exception) would be relocated to an uninhabited atoll in the Pacific, with the climate change deniers.

    • noodlestein's danger tits

      September 8, 2014 at 4:29 pm

      Ooh, great idea! That way, when the climate changes and the islands diappear, we’ll take care of both groups in one fell swoop. You. I like the cut of your jib.

    • Rachel Sea

      September 8, 2014 at 6:11 pm

      I like efficient, and karmically satisfying solutions.

    • Maria Guido

      September 8, 2014 at 3:33 pm

      Is that really how low it is? Terrifying.

    • Rachel Sea

      September 8, 2014 at 4:08 pm

      It varies, but that is the vaccination rate at one of the more well regarded charter schools – the one where all the school board members send their kids. The private schools are similarly bereft of herd immunity. The public schools, where poverty rates are much higher, have much more respectable vaccination rates. In this county, the vaccination rate is almost a perfect inverse of income. Personally, I think we in the non-profit sector should be hitting up these parents for secondary status bequests. If measles or something worse hits during the school year, there might be a not-insignificant number of rich people with no heirs.

    • WriterLady

      September 8, 2014 at 5:10 pm

      In certain areas, I think it’s also a religious thing–not just obscure unknown religions, but certain Christian denominations. In Texas, for example, there have been outbreaks in regions where some of the larger churches preach against the use of some, if not all, vaccines. A few have changed their positions in recent months, but some still stand by their claims. Also, the few people I personally I know who don’t vaccinate are lower-middle-class families that belong to evangelistic churches (however, I also live in the Midwest). The more liberal, non-religious (or less fundamentalist) people with higher incomes tend to advocate for vaccines in this area.

      And it’s not limited to the United States. According to Vice, “Things are even worse in Northern Europe. Since May, there’s been a ‘large, ongoing measles outbreak’ in an orthodox Protestant community in the Netherlands. As of September 5 [2013], the Center for Infectious Disease Control in Netherlands had reported some 1,226 cases. Ninety-one percent of those cases were unvaccinated members of orthodox Protestant communities in the country’s Bible belt.”

      http://www.vice.com/read/the-religious-rights-anti-vaccine-hysteria-is-reviving-dead-diseases

      And the following link shows a correlation between certain religions, their anti-vaxx beliefs, and outbreaks of preventable diseases in areas with concentrations of people who have chosen not to vaccinate. It is written by a doctor, and includes a number of citations.

      http://pediatrics.about.com/od/immunizations/a/religious-vaccine-exemptions.htm

    • Rachel Sea

      September 8, 2014 at 5:38 pm

      I know it’s true elsewhere (including about 50 miles inland), but that’s not what’s gong on in this county. Fundamentalist religionists are almost non-existent here. The area is mostly Catholic, Jewish, Buddhist and atheist/agnostic. What we have is a bunch of people whose parents were hippies, who are just educated enough to make stupid leaps of logic based on a limited comprehension of chemistry, and nutrition, with a massive mistrust of Big Pharma.

    • rrlo

      September 8, 2014 at 5:40 pm

      I think this is why Bob Sears is so dangerous. I can totally see people who trust Bill Sears for other parenting philosophies like AP start to fear vaccines.

    • WriterLady

      September 8, 2014 at 5:46 pm

      Oh, I’m not disagreeing with that being one facet of the anti-vaxx trend. I know it’s a huge reason why people in regions of California and other areas are opting out, so to speak. It’s more baffling to me with this population, because they tend to be more educated and have better access to scientific knowledge, yet it’s still an issue. It makes zero sense.

      I was just sharing my experience and information with what’s going on in the Midwest and parts of the Bible Belt. When you put these two groups together, you start to get a very dangerous trend going on. And it’s nearly impossible to reason with them–no matter what kind of hard data you show them or stories of older people who lived through the polio and measles crises, among others.

    • Rachel Sea

      September 8, 2014 at 6:08 pm

      In this neck of the woods, I think the kids’ grandparents smoked too much pot to remember about polio wards, and kids who disappeared from school to live in institutions for damaged children.

    • WriterLady

      September 8, 2014 at 6:24 pm

      Aye, got ya! 😉 My parents were wannabe hippies (the types who smoked on the weekends but had jobs), but they vividly recall older relatives and neighbors coming down with several of these preventable illnesses. And my 82-year-old aunt remembers losing many friends and distant relatives during the 40s and early 50s. And, yes, it must have been terrible to have loved ones ushered away to psych wards to have lobotomies or to be kept away from the general public, simply because they had an unknown and/or untreatable malady. if I recall correctly, one of the Kennedy children endured a lobotomy.

      We have come so far, yet people want to regress. Tempting fate with something this deadly is so flippin’ stupid. Nobody likes that pharmaceuticals are often ridiculously expensive (not vaccines necessarily, but specialized medicines; example: my dad’s Lipitor just went up over $100 a month in cost for dubious reasons), but I’m ever-so-grateful that the options are available when a family member requires a medication to maintain a healthy, vibrant lifestyle. And it sounds like these wealthy dissidents are less concerned with cost and more with conspiracy theorists–my favorite type of idiots.

    • Rachel Sea

      September 8, 2014 at 8:26 pm

      The anti-Pharma people don’t understand how they are possibly trading vaccines for lifelong drug dependence. My dad takes phenobarbital three times a day because he caught the chicken pox when I was a kid, and he sustained brain damage and became epileptic. A vaccine could have prevented that. All the people I cared for in a group home who had become brain damaged from measles were also epileptic, and had to take twice daily medication, some of which had terrible side effects, which required more drugs to mitigate.

      I’d rather just get a little shot.

  10. rockmonster

    September 8, 2014 at 12:52 pm

    Bring me where this dick is so I can vomit on him.

  11. jane

    September 8, 2014 at 1:02 pm

    “It may not be for the good of public health…”

    unless that statement is followed with “and since I’m a doctor, I must urge all people to do what is best for public health as a whole” or “but an all donut, ramen noodle and french fry diet is delicious” you should just shut your face. Because, by definition, “public health” is keeping “the public” healthy. And that includes your special snowflake.

    • alexesq33

      September 8, 2014 at 2:18 pm

      “but an all donut, ramen noodle and french fry diet is delicious”

      Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

  12. wildsrumpusmom

    September 8, 2014 at 1:21 pm

    Guess what doctor dumb ass? Montgomery county in MD is have a whopping cough problem because they are finding that the new form of vaccine causes the vaccine to shed the virus. Tell me how it is herd immunity will work now? Also, the more patients you dont vaccinated they less herd immunity there is. Just as the anti vaxx pocket communities in CA about that one.

    • wildrumpusmom

      September 8, 2014 at 1:22 pm

      *vaccinated to shed

  13. Foreskin Magpie

    September 8, 2014 at 1:41 pm

    I’ve been looking for pro-vax orgs to support and I found one that some of you may want to share on FB. It’s called Voices for Vaccines and you can donate money, join for newsletters or just share some of the personal stories on social media.

    • Henrysmama

      September 8, 2014 at 1:58 pm

      Just joined and invited all my facebook friends to do the same. Thanks for the info. Feels nice to do something proactive other than bitching on facebook.

    • Foreskin Magpie

      September 8, 2014 at 2:13 pm

      Agreed! I was reading some article that quoted a spokesperson for that org and she was talking about how important she thinks it is just to TALK about vaccinating our children…that as responsible, vaccinating parents it’s important to make our voices the loudest…that made a lot of sense to me.

  14. ted3553

    September 8, 2014 at 2:08 pm

    “the danger of disease is low enough in today’s society” because most people vaccinate you knob. If you stop vaccinating, that danger will go up. Now give me my medical degree.

  15. Guest

    September 8, 2014 at 2:17 pm

    Effing Dr. Sears

  16. aCongaLine

    September 8, 2014 at 2:37 pm

    Yeah, go ahead and make a herd with the 250,000 folks that bought your book, then tell me herd immunity is safe.

    Dude. Herd Immunity only works if (nearly) all are vaccinated.

    Douche.

  17. Sara610

    September 8, 2014 at 3:36 pm

    Hey, you know what’s funny? Bob Sears isn’t the “original” Dr. Sears. That would be his dad, Dr. Bill Sears, who wrote “The Baby Book” and is sort of the father of American attachment parenting. Bill Sears is in his 80s and was practicing pediatrics back before vaccines for diseases like polio, measles, etc. existed. Guess what Bill Sears’ stance on vaccines is?

    VACCINTE YOUR KIDS ACCORDING TO THE CDC SCHEDULE UNLESS THEY CAN’T BE SAFELY VACCINATED. That’s it. You know why? Because unlike his son, he’s actually seen with his own eyes the damage that these diseases wreak in unvaccinated communities.

    I’m not on the same page with Bill Sears on a whole lot of things, but when it comes to vaccinations, his son could learn a thing or two from him.

  18. Warren Pacholzuk

    September 8, 2014 at 5:26 pm

    The problem with all of your opinions is that you are all or nothing. Get every shot available. You want people to get shots for no other reason than to make you feel more secure.
    Too bad, that is not how things work.

    • whiteroses

      September 8, 2014 at 7:02 pm

      And had you read the comments, you would know that’s not even close to what anyone was saying. It’s got nothing to do with making us feel secure- it has a lot to do with the fact that it’s complete bullshit to chip away at herd immunity and expect terrible things not to happen.

    • Warren Pacholzuk

      September 9, 2014 at 8:50 am

      Herd immunity is an effect, not a reason. For one there are those that strongly believe that herd immunity will kill more than it saves, as the herd is not naturally strong. The immunity is becoming entirely dependant on chemistry.
      Now with those virus that carry high mortality rates, yes protect yourself, and get the shot. But for those that are not high mortality rates, such as the flu and chicken pox, no, let your body do the work.

    • Véronique the Attachment Shark

      September 9, 2014 at 11:52 am

      the flu did have high death rates for a while. and certain strains do still lead to death. especially in infants, elders and the immune-suppressed. Chicken pox is also highly deadly for adults.

    • Warren Pacholzuk

      September 10, 2014 at 3:36 pm

      Since my family is all normally healthy, they are in no need of getting a flu shot. And the chicken pox is not a risk for a normally healthy child. They get sick, they get better, and their immune system is better off for naturally fighting of the virus. And we will continue to follow our doctor’s advice, instead of over dramatic people like you.

    • whiteroses

      September 10, 2014 at 4:47 pm

      Yeah, who cares about the shingles, Veronique! #warrenknowsbest

      Warren- https://virus.stanford.edu/uda/

    • Warren Pacholzuk

      September 10, 2014 at 10:27 pm

      And where are your credentials? Like I said I will follow our family doctor’s advice everytime over some dumb cow on the internet.

    • whiteroses

      September 10, 2014 at 10:34 pm

      When an ass calls me a cow, I always consider the source.

    • Warren Pacholzuk

      September 10, 2014 at 3:37 pm

      You do realize that to obtain a reliable herd immunity, society would have to commit some horrible horrible acts. Until then, herd immunity is a pipe dream.

    • whiteroses

      September 10, 2014 at 4:37 pm

      When did you get your medical degree? Is it recent? Congrats!

    • Warren Pacholzuk

      September 10, 2014 at 10:32 pm

      You keep going on about how those that do not vaccinate are only hurting the herd immunity. So what do we do with those that medically cannot be vaccinated? They are also hurting the herd. So from now on until all forms of illness are totally irradicated……all those that cannot be vaccinated can line up to be killed, in order to protect the herd.

    • whiteroses

      September 10, 2014 at 10:37 pm

  19. rrlo

    September 8, 2014 at 5:38 pm

    I remember when my first kid was 2 months old. I was going to take him for his first set of shots, and I was perusing vaccine safety articles on the Internet and was bombarded with scary articles/comments vaccines. There were SO many baby center posts on how their babies died of SIDS shortly after their first shot. Of course the MMR/Autism crap reared it’s ugly head.

    It was so scary! I didn’t know there was, what appeared to be, so much controversy around it.

    Then I had a chance to read into the issue and I realized that compared to most things related to parenting, vaccinating your child is pretty much the LEAST controversial topics. Because according to MOST people who know anything about the subject – I am talking about doctors and scientists that study this stuff – vaccines are safe and essential.

    Shame on Dr. Bob Sears for adding to the vaccine paranoia side. He is capitalizing on the fears and doubts of new parents to sell his stupid book. I don’t care what he actually says in his book, but this description from the Sears website (link below) can make many parents question the validity of vaccines – especially if they already trust the Sears family for other child-rearing topics.

    http://www.askdrsears.com/topics/health-concerns/vaccines/inside-vaccine-book

  20. rockmonster

    September 8, 2014 at 5:39 pm

    I sense a shitstorm brewing in the comments….

  21. Joye77

    September 8, 2014 at 7:00 pm

    This guy is an effin’ jackass. He is truly dangerous as a DR. stating this crap. All this antivax nonsense pisses me off. How can people deny science? True fact-proven science. Vaccines are one of the biggest health care breakthroughs of our time and people think it’s a damned joke. Death is not something to argue about. We have a proven way to prevent suffering and death and people opt out? Too many people don’t don’t get how important vaccines are!

  22. tk88

    September 8, 2014 at 11:24 pm

    Wow, I did not realize the guy who helped write The Baby Book and that whole series was this stupid.

    • Sara610

      September 9, 2014 at 6:44 am

      Different guy. The author of The Baby Book is Dr. WILLIAM Sears. This is his son, Dr. BOB Sears. William advocates all kinds of crunchy, all-natural parenting practices, but he tells parents to vaccinate according to the CDC schedule barring an actual medical reason that makes it unsafe. Probably because he started practicing medicine back before vaccines for polio, measles, etc. existed and he’s actually watched children die or suffer lifelong health problems because of them.

    • tk88

      September 10, 2014 at 12:10 pm

      Ah, ok. That’s a relief.

  23. simoneutecht

    September 9, 2014 at 11:32 am

    Why are people so stupid?

  24. Véronique the Attachment Shark

    September 9, 2014 at 11:54 am

    The flaw with his approach is that he is assuming that most people will not want to listen to his approach. Which also means that he probably himself is implying that his approach is bullshit. Because, if you’re right, you’re going to assume that everyone will follow your advice, right? And then, you will have just destroyed your own theory.

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