8 Stroller Habits That Will Make Everyone Around Hate You

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4. Refusing to fold it on a crowded bus

I know, it’s hard to fold a stroller while juggling the baby and the diaper bag and Mr. Bear. Everyone watches you struggle and no one offers to help. Those people suck. Still, be the bigger person. Fold the stroller.

5. Using your stroller as a walker

You know who you are, draped over the handles like a damp T-shirt and moving so slowly that an inchworm just passed you. Your stroller is not that heavy, so spare me the dramatics and move over before I accidentally on purpose hit you in the back of the ankles with my own monster double jogger.

6. Knocking store displays over

The holiday season draws near, meaning there will soon be even more displays to navigate around in Target. On behalf of retail workers everywhere I beg you- if it looks like a tight squeeze, don’t try it.

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  1. Heather

    November 2, 2014 at 8:25 am

    I think the only one I ever perpetrated on the regular was pushing the stroller full of bags while wearing baby. But my justification was for reals, I was usually breastfeeding while babe was being carried. Then they fall asleep and why the hell move them?!

    Now, however, I’m nearly free of the stroller beast! YaY!!

    • AE Vorro

      November 2, 2014 at 3:21 pm

      I don’t see that as bad etiquette (full disclosure: not a mom) – I always thought that was a cool perk to having to buy and use those things.

  2. keelhaulrose

    November 2, 2014 at 8:37 am

    Walking two or three abreast down the sidewalk with your mommy friends. Those mothers who never freaking move to let someone pass.

    • Spitting_mad

      November 2, 2014 at 10:28 am

      I can’t tell if this is directed at strollers or the sighing writer. As a city dweller, it just goes for everyone. Move OVER.

    • keelhaulrose

      November 2, 2014 at 12:30 pm

      It’s directed at stroller users for a nod to the story and it applies to freaking everyone. I get stopped a lot by the “sudden reunion” folks. Reunions don’t need to happen in the middle of sidewalks/grocery aisles/the road with your car, etc.

    • FishQueen

      November 2, 2014 at 12:52 pm

      Or the hmm, I just got a text message person. I get not wanting to stumble along blindly, but pull your dumb texting self over to the side.

  3. ActionComics25

    November 2, 2014 at 9:20 am

    The stroller in the folding gif somehow looks like it takes the same or more space folded up.

    • Jessie Lamontagne

      November 2, 2014 at 10:44 am

      It also weigh 50lbs. I tried it at a store and I just lol because seriously, not sure how useful that thing is if I can’t lift it with one hand.

  4. Jessifer

    November 2, 2014 at 9:29 am

    You realize that for people who don’t have cars, their stroller basically IS their shopping cart, right? That’s the only way they can carry their baby AND all of their stuff home.

    And this may make me sound like a jerk, but I’m not folding my stroller every time I step into a crowded bus or subway. Too much trouble, especially if I’m on my own. My stroller is small enough. People can give me the stink eye all they want. It’s no worse than the dude who hits everyone seated in the face with his backpack that he refuses to take off, or the lady who thinks that her purse needs its own seat.

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    • Anonyme

      November 2, 2014 at 6:17 pm

      Ugh, Backpack Dudes. They’re everywhere! Backpack Dude (or Dudette) seemed to enjoy coming late to class in college and barging past the already seated students, lobbing them in the head at the same time.

    • Lilly

      November 2, 2014 at 7:43 pm

      I think the fold-up on bus is really regional. When I was in the UK it was standard to do (had signs about it), in Toronto where I live it is really not done as there is no where for the folded stroller to be stored (so folding it doesn’t save any space). I know in some cities it is common to lift the seats that are for wheelchairs and park strollers there (this is actually pretty efficient and moves them out of the aisle — but if a wheelchair gets on it has priority).
      If it isn’t done where you are I wouldn’t sweat it, just know that if you travel you might have a bus driver sitting there waiting for you to fold it up before driving off.

    • ohladyjayne

      November 3, 2014 at 9:26 am

      I agree. I’m in Toronto and most people don’t fold here because of the way buses/streetcars are designed.

      I also don’t have a car, so have definitely used my stroller as a grocery cart and had my kid walk or put them in a carrier. Not having a car really changes the way you experience certain things (like grocery shopping, running a whole bunch of errands, etc).

    • Guest

      November 3, 2014 at 2:05 am

      Yeah, and if they’re, you know, carrying all their groceries and their toddler home on the bus, how the eff are they supposed to fold the stroller up anyway without making a godawful scene.

    • practicallyperfectineveryway

      November 3, 2014 at 8:56 am

      I’ve watched pregnant ladies on the tube have to stand because some jerkwad needed another seat for his damn backpack at rush hour. Like, go ahead if it’s not crowded, but never in the priority seat, and never when crowded. (I travel home off peak, and if you’re the only person in your row go ahead…but so frustrating when people think their things are more important than other people…)

  5. LoveInfinitely

    November 2, 2014 at 9:37 am

    I hate the giant strollers. I see them coming and I’m like, “Why is your stroller bigger than my car?” Sigh.

    • Spitting_mad

      November 2, 2014 at 10:33 am

      Maybe this is my childfree ignorance showing (it probably is) but what is it about a baby that requires SO MUCH SPACE? I get diaper bags and spare everything, but suddenly you just NEED a giant van that holds seven people and a 3,000sqft home and the baby’s room has to be the size of my apartment and all their stuff is just so big. Why? How does this tiny person take up a whole city block in stuff?

      My hypothesis is that babies cause dimensional rifts / wormholes that distort all of time and space around them. Babies are black holes.

    • Jessifer

      November 2, 2014 at 10:53 am

      You don’t. We lived in a 1-bedroom apartment with our son for the first year, now we have a 2-bedroom. The limited space makes it much easier to distinguish between a want and a need. It also forces you to come up with some pretty “creative” solutions on how to make the best out of the space that you do have. I never thought I could fit a crib into my bedroom but after a lot of shifting furniture around and moving things to other areas, we made it work and it wasn’t so bad.

    • Ursi

      November 2, 2014 at 11:01 am

      Can’t knock the minivan, they’re insanely practical if you have a kids. We had one for awhile and it was the tits. Moving became a snap, helping other carpool was no problem; you could fit a ton in the back for big shopping trips… We don’t even have kids and it was brilliant. I totally get why anyone with more than one child wants that minivan.

    • Guest

      November 2, 2014 at 12:23 pm

      This. My husband is super anti minivan. I’m like if someone is judging you for driving a van they’re pathetic for even caring what a stranger chooses to drive. I had one as my first car in high school and it was great for sports gear and hauling my friends around. Now I want one since we don’t have a truck and because it would be easier for my dogs to get in and out of then my crossover AND they could stay on the floor instead of getting my seats all furry. I may be the only one but I am *excited* to get a minivan.

    • NotTakenNotAvailable

      November 2, 2014 at 11:46 am

      Considering the Woe Is Mom types who would lead you to believe that all free time and energy will be sucked out of you FOREVER once you have kids, I think there may be something to that theory!

    • LoveInfinitely

      November 2, 2014 at 11:56 am

      Hahaha exactly! I think in general we all have way too much stuff now. Add a baby and BLAMMO all the stuff in the world. Or maybe the stuff is physically bigger now?

    • AP

      November 2, 2014 at 2:26 pm

      I worked with a woman who was decidedly anti-minivan, anti-materialism, and she said that finding carseats that fit into a sedan was a nightmare. So I think at least with carseats, it’s that they’re physically bigger. I mean, we keep kids in carseats until practically middle school, of COURSE they’re bigger than an infant bucket or a booster box.

    • guest

      November 2, 2014 at 12:50 pm

      They don’t. We have a Pruis and a Prius V. We have a three bedroom apartment as the third bedroom is both the guest room and the office so I can telework. We live away from both sets of our parents so we want them to be able to visit and hotels are expensive in LA.

    • JAN

      November 2, 2014 at 1:57 pm

      You don’t need most of that, I have three kids in two bedrooms right now. I do have a van because carseats, those suckers take up ALL the room. Before we got it we had no options for giving anyone else a ride including our mothers when they visited or now carpooling to preschool so I don’t have to drag the baby out in the cold every day. Truthfully my minivan gets better gas mileage than my sedan did, because it disengages three of its cylinders when it’s not needed. With two kids though, we managed (snugly) without. Once my oldest is out of car seats and boosters (three more years) I may downsize again.

    • Nara

      November 2, 2014 at 2:19 pm

      We say in our house that the size of a person is inversely proportional to how much stuff they need. Not that you need a ridiculous house and a minivan for one (we got along fine in our hand-me-down Buick and 1100 sq-ft with one), but as soon as you up the difficulty to two or three it starts getting ridiculous, and soon you are in the market for a mcmansion and the minivan is the Best Thing Ever. I didn’t believe it myself, until we added twins to the mix. And multiples are definitely a force-multiplier.

      tl;dr: Babies are black holes. You are so, so, so, so right.

    • alexesq33

      November 3, 2014 at 3:54 pm

      ugh unfortunately we need this…. 3 babies with MASSIVE car seats plus 3 adults (hubby me and mom who lives with us.) We couldn’t fit in a smaller car. Also, totally agree with you on cribs SO FREAKING HUGE they take up the whole room. And bassinets and playpens and changing tables oh my!

  6. citymom

    November 2, 2014 at 9:54 am

    So how am I supposed to get my groceries home when I have to walk 15 blocks with a baby and I’m by myself? A taxi? Then I’d have to bring a carseat, and my baby is too heavy for the infant ones. Shopping with a baby and stroller is not fun for anyone, no one would do it if they had a choice.

    • Jessifer

      November 2, 2014 at 10:19 am

      Amen! I think someone on Mommyish should write an article called “What it’s like to be a city mom without a car!”

    • Elizabeth Wakefield

      November 2, 2014 at 6:15 pm

      I think someone should write this article, because I honestly have no idea what that kind of parenting is like! I would be interested in this position.

    • ohladyjayne

      November 3, 2014 at 9:26 am


    • Jessie Lamontagne

      November 2, 2014 at 10:41 am

      Seriously, how am I supposed to get home? By then my Babou is usually freaking out and putting him in the baby carrier keeps him calm, and then the bags of grocery can go in his seat. I really don’t understand why anyone would Care about that, I take up the same space, maybe even less than if I was using a mommy hook to hang my grocery on the side of the stroller.

    • Spitting_mad

      November 2, 2014 at 10:44 am

      The only concern I have with it is the high risk of shop lifting. But trust me, the baby does not have to be out of the stroller for a lot of sticky-fingered assholes to use a stroller as their criminal shopping cart. Tucking things under the baby’s butt is a classic move.

    • Linzon

      November 2, 2014 at 10:55 am

      Heck, I’m a suburban mom with a car and I still walk to the grocery store because it’s good exercise. Last night I learned that the basket under the seat is the perfect size for a 12-pack of beer.

    • NotTakenNotAvailable

      November 2, 2014 at 11:41 am

      You’re awesome!

      Also, I walked to the store all the time when I lived near downtown because 1) exercise and 2) grocery stores, or at least grocery store parking lots, were clearly never intended for urban environments. It was way less risky for my blood pressure to leave the car at home.

  7. Samwisegamgeeeisthebesthobbit

    November 2, 2014 at 9:55 am

    The only one I’m guilty of is the last one. My son gets really fussy in his stroller sometimes so I also carry the Ergo just in case. If I have both, there is no way possible I can carry him in the Ergo, his folded up stroller, my purse, his diaper bag, and my shopping bags on my person. By default, the stroller gets turned into the carry all while I carry the baby. Im not sure I can see how that affects anyone else but the others are spot on!!

    • Jayamama

      November 2, 2014 at 10:08 am

      I agree. Either I carry the bags and push the baby, or I carry the baby and push the bags. It doesn’t work any other way.

    • Angelica

      November 2, 2014 at 10:29 am

      I absolutely agree! If my kid is in the “I need to be carried” mode, no way I am carrying her and whatever crap I have to carry. That stuff is definitely going in the stroller! What an odd thing to get annoyed by.

    • NotTakenNotAvailable

      November 2, 2014 at 11:36 am

      That one doesn’t make sense to me, either. If you’re packing everything into as tight a space as possible (and considering you’ve probably got the kiddo strapped tightly to your body, so that counts in my book), you’re less of an obstacle for fast-walkers like me to navigate around than you would be if you had to literally drop everything else and park the stroller to comfort the baby. Efficiency–I’m all for it!

    • nic

      November 2, 2014 at 4:52 pm

      Absolutely! Also, what is the difference between pushing a shopping cart or pushing a stroller..? Clearly I cannot do both at the same time, so in (or on) the stroller my things will go -with or without my baby in there (and no, before someone freaks – I am not putting things literally ON my baby. You know what I mean).

  8. Tourmalily

    November 2, 2014 at 10:01 am

    Ugh #3 SO MUCH

  9. Ursi

    November 2, 2014 at 10:03 am

    I’m way less bothered than the stroller/shopping cart thing than by people who let their children push the actual shopping cart around the store. Why do people do this?? If your kid can barely see over the shopping car they shouldn’t be pushing it.

    • Samwisegamgeeeisthebesthobbit

      November 2, 2014 at 10:50 am

      Yes! And those mini grocery carts for kids. Dumbest idea ever!

    • JAN

      November 2, 2014 at 1:49 pm

      My son ALWAYS wants to push the mini grocery cart and then either I have to say no and he’s disappointed or I have to try to supervise him, his two younger siblings and shop. I just find them annoying.

    • AP

      November 2, 2014 at 2:23 pm

      Trader Joe’s. Worst offender. It’s a small store that gets high volume during peak times and the staff are constantly stocking the shelves so there’s boxes blocking aisles. It’s hard enough to navigate around the store without having to keep an eye out for 4 year olds going ZOOOOMMM level with my legs.

      I place full blame on TJ’s for that system. I would have done the same thing had I had a mini-cart at that age. It’s the store’s fault for enabling that behavior instead of encouraging the kids to behave appropriate to the situation.

    • Sri

      November 2, 2014 at 6:09 pm

      Yes. I once had a mom yell at me about how disgusting I was to face my (covered by jeans ) butt towards the shelf of food when her kid was repeatedly bashing one of those stupid fucking TJ’s carts into my legs. Sorry, lady, but I’m not sacrificing the backs of my knees when you could just, you know, control your fucking child.

  10. Cee

    November 2, 2014 at 10:50 am

    I went to Disneyland yesterday and just looking at stroller parking lots give me such a panic attack. Sometimes I teeter totter about having kids, but somehow stroller parking lots solidify my “no” again.

    Also..moms are very sensitive about strollers used as shopping carts? Who knew?!

    • FishQueen

      November 2, 2014 at 11:34 am

      You would not believe how uppity people get about being asked to behave well with their strollers there. I’ve been run over for asking guests to move them out of aisle ways. (Former employee; not a random person.)

    • Cee

      November 2, 2014 at 12:18 pm

      Oh I believe you! People there are the worst in general, since I have a pass, I leave when I get annoyed by everyone being such dicks. But yea, parents with strollers just thunder through and do’t care what they hit! My girlfriend always wonders why I rather let people with strollers go ahead of us. I rather get stuck behind a slow parent during a parade rerouting than in front and have my ankles tapped every second.

    • FishQueen

      November 2, 2014 at 12:44 pm

      Oh my god yes. I made the mistake of taking my sister in one night when we knew we had to leave around the time fireworks were over to get her back for school the next day. My heels were bleeding, and I was wearing sneakers.

      My favorite I ever got was asking someone to please wait (always politely, of course), and she stared balefully at me and unblinkingly snarled, “I have a STROLLER”. All the more reason to stay put and not get run over, I think.

    • Cee

      November 2, 2014 at 1:16 pm

      Ive had a pass for a couple of years. I have seen the fireworks IN the park a whopping TWO times since I have had one. The rest of the times I have watched them outside the park that middle courtyard halfway between Disneyland and California Adventure or in the parking lot because of the sheer madness that occurs right after.

    • FishQueen

      November 2, 2014 at 1:51 pm

      I will say this- I never understood the kid on a leash thing until I started spending copious amounts of time there.

  11. mediocrity511

    November 2, 2014 at 11:30 am

    We’re not getting a pushchair until our kid is too heavy to carry in a sling, even then we will get the smallest one possible. So many prams and pushchairs today seem to be built like tanks! And some women definitely use them that way, using them as a battering ram scattering people in front of them in a shopping centre, pushing them out into the road as a very risky traffic stopping strategy. But my real hatred is for those who use them in the wheelchair area of the bus and then get sniffy when they have to move for a wheelchair user. Sure it looks really inconvenient to wrestle your baby out, fold it and hang on to your bags, but a wheelchair user can’t simply fold their chair up, get up and then stand. I know one day I’ll have to bite the bullet and get one, but the idea of wielding such a monstrosity through a crowded area fills me with dread!

    • AP

      November 2, 2014 at 2:19 pm

      If you are going to be taking your baby to crowded areas (the city, mass transit, the zoo, Christmas shopping, the airport), you need a slimline umbrella stroller. Full stop period no exceptions. Not a manually-operated Hummer.

    • jendra_berri

      November 3, 2014 at 1:17 am

      You can’t put a newborn in an umbrella stroller, however. There aren’t always these solutions for every situation.

    • ohladyjayne

      November 3, 2014 at 9:29 am

      Totally. We got the lightest (because I have to carry it up/down stairs to the subway and we live in a 3rd floor walk-up) and smallest stroller we could find that reclines fully, because my kid naps in her stroller all the time (another side effect of not having a car). So it’s bigger than an umbrella stroller, but it’s the smallest we could get that would suit our needs.

      I don’t know, I usually hear the term ‘SUV stroller’ to refer to ‘any stroller that is in my vicinity’.

  12. NotTakenNotAvailable

    November 2, 2014 at 11:54 am

    So as a childfree and apparently parent-hating curmudgeon (Truth, dontcha have to spend every last second of today getting your kids adjusted to the time change or something?), the only two I disagree with are the last one (bags in stroller = less area faster walkers have to maneuver around!) and draping yourself over the stroller. Mostly because I’ve personally fucked up my back from two decades of hiking and skiing in earnest, and I know I’d be taking any opportunity to stretch my lower back muscles while taking some pressure off my shoulders, making that entry a “you don’t know the mom’s situation” for me. The others, however? Yeah, grouch on! I’ll be right there with you!

    • FishQueen

      November 2, 2014 at 12:54 pm

      How could you say that? Um, um…*frantically trying to find a way to turn your supportive comments into an attack on parents*

      Oh! That mom shouldn’t be bending over unless she has more than one kid! Her back pain can’t be all THAT bad.

      How’d I do?

    • NotTakenNotAvailable

      November 2, 2014 at 1:02 pm

      An excellent start! Now, if you’d been as embittered and therefore practiced in the art of parent hatred for as long as I have, you’d have also blamed that sore back on having the kids in the first place, which no one should EVER do!

    • FishQueen

      November 2, 2014 at 1:05 pm

      Teach me your ways, oh wise one.

    • NotTakenNotAvailable

      November 2, 2014 at 1:32 pm

      Blame everything on the kids and the parents who chose to have them, and ye too shall speak the Truth.

    • FishQueen

      November 2, 2014 at 1:53 pm

      But truth begets Truth, and I shall have none of her.

    • NotTakenNotAvailable

      November 2, 2014 at 3:03 pm

      It’s okay. She seems to have returned, in trolling spirit at least, in the guise of Rosary Catholic. X(

    • FishQueen

      November 2, 2014 at 3:28 pm

      Oh, for heaven’s sake. What is with these trolls?

    • NotTakenNotAvailable

      November 2, 2014 at 3:41 pm

      They’re buried in every hole in the internet, it seems.

  13. aCongaLine

    November 2, 2014 at 1:21 pm

    Received our double stroller from a family friend, secondhand, for free… and, since we’re broke, we’re sticking with it. THough, it’s not a double wide, so it doesn’t hog the sidewalk. Everyday, I strap my two tiny humans into it, and the tiniest human that I nanny into the backcarrier, and walk a mile to the grocery store, because exercise, and everyone needs to eat. THe few items, usually fresh produce, I purchase get ultimately stored int he bottom basket of the stroller. Is it fun? Nope. Does everyone get fresh air and, at the end, fresh fruits to munch on? Yep. It’s those who feel hat they are entitled to special treatment just because they have a stroller that drive me bananas.

    tl;dr I try not to be an asshole about the giant stroller. sorry if I’ve been an asshole, neighbors.

    • Becky

      November 2, 2014 at 9:35 pm

      I salute you. I only have two tiny humans and didn’t take them grocery-shopping alone till they were 11 months old. I didn’t learn to get one into a back carry without help till about that age as well. You go on with your double stroller and babywearing and fresh produce.

    • aCongaLine

      November 3, 2014 at 6:52 am

      🙂 It’s a production, for sure, lol.

  14. Layla

    November 2, 2014 at 1:26 pm

    Shopping is no fun with two kids. We do the best we can to stay out of people’s way. If I can avoid it I will and typically keep our trips to a minimum. I think with everything there are assholes and non assholes.

  15. Mari

    November 2, 2014 at 1:50 pm

    Before my kid was big enough to use a high chair (ie able sit on his own), we used his infant car seat with a stroller frame as a stroller 90% of the time. Folding that would mean taking the car seat off the frame and perching it precariously on a pulled-out restaurant chair while setting the folded frame somewhere near the table or in a corner. Or we could just wheel the whole thing up to the table in place of one of the chairs. I’d fold the handle down. It took up the same amount of space either way.

    Currently we use an umbrella stroller for him. It folds, but then it doesn’t stand up on it’s own in the folded position. So if we eat out somewhere that’s too far from the parking garage to just be able carry the kid in (he doesn’t tolerate carriers anymore), I have to find some place in the restaurant to park the stroller while we use a high chair at the table. I’m happy to fold it, but then it falls down and becomes a tripping hazard, unless the restaurant has a closet to put it in or something. If there is no corner to tuck it into out of the way, the easiest thing is to pull it up, unfolded, to the table in place of the fourth chair that our family of 3 isn’t using.

  16. Mari

    November 2, 2014 at 1:59 pm

    As for store displays, if you are a retailer that caters to parents of very young children (Babies R Us) or offers shopping carts to be wheeled around your store (Target), for heaven’s sake, don’t put your displays so close together that their shopping carts can’t be maneuvered through them. The clothing racks in the toddler section of my Target so close, that I’m constantly having to pick clothes off the floor as I walk through that department with a shopping cart or stroller. Are they expecting parents of toddlers to shop in the baby and toddler section only when they can leave their kid at home? Or am I supposed to park my kid unattended in the isle while I go into that department to pick out his pants? I’ll give a pass to non-kids oriented retailers, though I don’t know how they expect people in wheel chairs to shop around their displays either.

    • AP

      November 2, 2014 at 2:17 pm

      The tile areas are for carts. The carpeted sections mean “no carts welcome.” You don’t bring shopping carts around in the Gap or Victoria’s Secret, right? I usually park my cart outside the clothing section (my husband waits with the cart if I’ve left personal effects behind) and go into the racks to shop by myself.

    • Mari

      November 2, 2014 at 2:35 pm

      I don’t shop at Victoria’s Secret or the Gap with my toddler on a weekday. I specifically mentioned the baby/toddler clothing section at Target/BRU. Does the store expect me to

      1) Leave my child in the cart in the tiled area while I go into the carpeted areas?
      2) Only shop there with another person present to stay with the child in the cart, only shop there when I have a babysitter to stay home with the child?
      3) Take him out of the cart and juggle him in one arm while he pulls things off the displays in the carpeted areas?

      If a particular department caters to parents of small children who are often restrained in strollers or the store’s carts, why pack that department so tight with displays that those strollers/carts can’t be wheeled in, thus driving away some of the very customers you are trying to get to go in there?

    • Layla

      November 3, 2014 at 10:13 am

      Absolutely agree! Carters is another store. Had very difficult time maneuvering my stroller in there. And this is a store for babies and kids.

    • ChickenKira

      November 3, 2014 at 4:31 am

      Carpeted areas?

      There is something wrong with my local Target and Babies R Us.

  17. Nara

    November 2, 2014 at 2:10 pm

    Oh wow. I have twins. I HAVE to do most of these things. Especially the draping. Oh gosh, the draping. Each twin is 15 lbs right now, each carseat is 10, the stroller cassis is 15. That’s 65 lbs to push right now, plus a purse, plus a diaper bag, plus whatever I’m buying at the time. Add in my three hours of nightly sleep and the fact that I probably finished my latte already, and I will be moving like a sloth dipped in molasses. I’ll pull over to the side, but seriously, don’t judge if I’m barely upright.
    But honestly. How am I supposed to fold my $800 monstrosity while holding two babies, the seats, the diaper bag, the purse, bus fare, and then magically pick up the stroller, too? How am I supposed to get the girls to a cart in the grocery store, if I don’t use the stroller, when I need a hand free just to close the van door?
    Sigh. As long as you don’t shout, “Boy, donyou have your hands full!” while you’re speedwalking by me on the sidewalk I’ll be fine.

    • Zorbs

      November 2, 2014 at 6:50 pm

      shouldn’t a stroller that expensive be easier to move? My BOB Revolution could move with the push of 1 finger and stop on a dime even full of crap.

    • Becky

      November 2, 2014 at 9:23 pm

      It’s a lot harder when the stroller is holding two car seats rather than just the two built in seats, like the double BOB. I’m a twin mom and my good stroller is about $650 and it is awesome, but both girls plus stroller plus bag now totals around 70 lbs. On any level surface that stroller is a dream to steer and you’d never guess how much it weighed, but the only time it gets folded up is when it goes in the trunk of my car.

      Nara: Hang in there, park by the cart returns with carts in them, put one car seat in the basket and pop the other kid in a sling. If you want to, that is. I didn’t take my girls to the grocery store solo till they were 11 months old and one of them could sit in the cart seat and I wore the other. Do whatever works.

    • Nara

      November 3, 2014 at 4:23 pm

      Fellow twin mom! You are awesome 🙂

    • Nara

      November 3, 2014 at 4:31 pm

      It’s pretty good (City Select ftw), but it’s still 65 lbs and I’m running on constant empty. I drape over the shopping cart, when I have the blessed and rare opportunity to shop alone. I lean against walls and counters. I stay down for an extra couple of seconds when I drop something and have to pick it up. I sit whenever possible. I drink coffee like it’s lifeblood. My current dream vacation is 8 hours of sleep ANYWHERE.
      Having an expensive stroller just means I can actually TAKE the twins out at this stage by myself, not that it’s actually easy.

    • Twinpocalypsenow Now

      November 3, 2014 at 8:49 pm

      Hang in there. Survive this day. I PROMISE you, it gets better. We will never have tiny, lightweight strollers and we will probably always be in someone’s way. But SOON you will get twin kisses on both cheeks at once and your heart will soar. Just hang on. Drape yourself over the damn stroller if you must. And if you haven’t already, get the stupid $20 Baby Jogger cup holder designed to clamp on the handle. It rocks.

  18. AP

    November 2, 2014 at 2:31 pm

    I think the big issue with a lot of these annoying habits is the underlying entitlement of the person perpetuating them. “I can do whatever I want because I don’t want to be inconvenienced in the slightest,” is quickly justified by, “I HAVE A CHILD! This belongs to THE CHILD! Are you being hostile to MY CHILD?”

    I get this at work. I politely reminded a mom that children could not change clothes (be naked) in the hallway and needed to use the locker room. She said someone was in the family/special needs bathroom and that she couldn’t be expected to wait, and that our facility was unwelcoming to families. Her son was almost 11! If he can’t go in the men’s room for two minutes and change his shorts by himself, she has failed as a mother. (The child was not special needs.)

    • Spitting_mad

      November 2, 2014 at 3:17 pm

      Eleven? Holy cow, ELEVEN.
      I don’t know if the poor kid is special needs (I mean, you can’t see autism or the like) but Jesus, woman, wait for the damn family bathroom.

    • AP

      November 2, 2014 at 5:17 pm

      The child was fully participating with no adaptations in a normal program for his age group, so I am assuming that he had no special needs that prevented him from being able to change his shorts by himself.

      That kid is like 30 seconds from puberty and his mom is still helping him dress? The nope-octopus almost ran across the floor.

  19. Marisa Quinn-Haisu

    November 2, 2014 at 5:00 pm

    I’ll use my pram however I want. I mean it has a built in cup holder and a basket built into it why the hell would I not use it as a trolley? And I never fold it up either because why the hell would I do that on a crowded bus? How am I supposed to hold the folded up pram and my purse and the baby and the heavy nappy bag? Isn’t it easier to keep the kid in the chair so they can sleep? I never fold it up anyway because I have dyspraxia and it’s too difficult for me. And as for taking it into resturants we only take it into ones that are not crowded. This was a very bitchy article…

  20. Kathryn Mackenzie

    November 2, 2014 at 6:06 pm

    And don’t ever be that asshole who bitches loudly about having to move your unfolded stroller out of the wheelchair section of anywhere (I’ve seen it on buses), because someone in a wheelchair needs the space.

  21. Becky

    November 2, 2014 at 9:37 pm

    There are a lot of times when, if I hadn’t been the mom with the baby on her back and the bags in the stroller, you’d have bitched because I was the mom who didn’t tend to her crazed, screaming infant.

  22. jendra_berri

    November 3, 2014 at 1:12 am

    No, don’t fold the stroller on the bus. Do not do this! So dangerous. So completely unsafe. I’ve never seen anyone do this, nor should anyone expect it.
    Consider: How are you supposed to get the baby out of the stroller safely on a moving bus? The bus will not wait for you to handle your business. Same for getting it unfolded again. The bus will not sit there and wait for you to do it, and unfolding your stroller while carrying your baby on a moving vehicle is wildly risky. Terrible idea.
    And if you somehow are able to fold and unfold it before getting on the bus or getting off, can you safely carry your baby, diaper bag and stroller? If you trip, you will hurt your baby. Will your toddler not run around on the bus/into traffic waiting for the bus?

    Let’s be serious. How much it annoys others that the stroller is on the bus is their personal problem. All you can do is get a stroller that suits your needs, which you can afford, and do your best to navigate around the city. Those that have a problem with you while you do this should invest in a car because they are not prepared to use public transit and all that public transit entails.

    If there is time given to parents to fold, and space for these strollers to be for this to be a reality, if bus drivers are empowered to help out, then fine. But I live in a city where none of that is in place. It’s wild west and your baby needs to keep it bum in the stroller.

  23. ChickenKira

    November 3, 2014 at 4:37 am

    As someone who got a nice trip to hospital from a folded up stroller on the bus DO NOT FOLD YOUR STROLLER ON THE BUS. JUST DON’T. NEVER.

    When it is set up a stroller has brakes, they’re not perfect, but they do an okay job of holding the stroller in place. They are also more stable when set up.

    Folded strollers on busses tend to fall/fly when the bus brakes suddenly, resulting in injured commuters. In my case, a blow to the head where I was knocked unconscious.

    Just flat out don’t do it. I don’t care if some people think you’re annoying, it is a terrible idea.

  24. Sariefloss86

    November 3, 2014 at 6:57 am

    Bringing it into the crowded preschool hallway while other parents try to pick up their children. For the love of God. And looking at me like I’m the shitty person when I refuse to let you pass until my own little trail of ducklings is through. Sorry lady. Preschool pick up is what, 15 minutes of your life? Leave the stroller in the car.

  25. Marci

    November 3, 2014 at 10:19 am

    Totally guilty of the last one; more at airports than shopping. My travel kit looked like this for two years:
    Stroller with car seat in it. Carry-on luggage underneath the seat. Baby worn in mobi wrap. jackets (winter only) in carseat.
    Go to check-in line. Check in luggage and carseat. Go to security line. Remove everything from underneath stroller, fold stroller and place all on conveyer belt. Walk through with baby. Unfold stroller and dump everything into it. Move to the side to repack everything in the “right” place underneath stroller. Put kid in stroller with blanket and favorite animal, unless she’s cranky or sleeping, in which case, keep wearing. Wait for husband to put his entire life back into his pants pockets. At gate, get gate-side checkin tag for stroller. When pre-boarding is announced, unpack stroller of everything, including baby. Either walk or wear baby – depending on age, roll empty stroller down the jetway. Fold and leave to the side.
    Live through flight.
    Reverse on other end.

  26. rrlo

    November 3, 2014 at 11:28 am

    Meh, most of these are not offensive to me. It’s on par with living in a large, crowded city. I can’t “hate” people for what mostly are minor inconveniences. And I certainly don’t care if others “hate” me for things like carrying my shopping in the stroller while baby is the ergo (wtf?).

  27. alexesq33

    November 3, 2014 at 3:57 pm

    For #1, as a former server and bartender I am always appalled at the way some people keep their babies in strollers or car seats IN THE FUCKING AISLES – do they realize that the people walking through there with huge trays are carrying glasses, plates, boiling hot soup, sizzling steak platters, and occasionally steak knives, and these people are generally 17 or 18 YEAR OLD KIDS?? Not professional Parisian waiters folks! Any of those things could drop off a tray at anytime and scald, scar or otherwise injure a tiny infant. ugh. Rant over.

  28. Tetra

    November 3, 2014 at 5:21 pm

    The last one is dumb. Sorry that’s not a problem.

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