Maryland Gun Nut Shoots Little Girl’s Dog Before Bragging About It On Facebook

 

kenny woodburnMaryland resident, gun nut enthusiast and epic douche bag Kenny Woodburn allegedly shot a little girl’s 1-year-old Labrador-pittbull mix dog, Tank, to death after it wandered into his yard. Beforehand he took to Facebook to post a warning that the dog would be killed if it happened again, writing “Hey going to dye today [sic], and then again afterwards to brag about shooting the dog. As you can see, Woodburn is a man of class and grace. Now thousands of folks from all over the world have signed a petition asking for Woodburn to be punished for his actions.

Earlier this month,Tank’s owner, 21-year-old  Richele Ince was on her way home from work when a relative called her to say that the animal has managed to get loose. Before Ince had a chance to get home and take care of the situation, Woodburn allegedly shot the dog and took to Facebook again to brag about it. Woodburn also took photos of himself with the dogs dead body and posted them online. They have since been taken down, but screenshots exist. No, we won’t be posting those here.

Woodburn claims that the dog, who never had any issues with aggression before, attacked him and forced him to shoot. Which is funny, considering his earlier threat against the dog and the fact that Woodburn didn’t bother to complain to Ince the first time Tank came on his land. Methinks Woodburn is just a gun happy nut who saw a chance to kill a dog and get away with it. A quick glance on the guy’s social media accounts paint a pretty obvious picture of a man obsessed with all things gun and hunting related. Obviously not every gun enthusiast is a kill-machine, but I think there is a big difference between Woodburn’s brand of gun nut and your typical gun owner.

Now, I know a few people are going to defend this piece of human filth because the dog shouldn’t have been on his property. Of course the dog shouldn’t have been there. But that doesn’t change the fact that this was an over-reaction at best, and cruelty at worst. According to the petition page, Woodburn will be charged in St. Mary’s County with animal cruelty charges, which are a felony offense in Maryland.

(Photo: Facebook)

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    • proy8

      How much do you want to bet that this guy is “pro-life”?

      • Victoria

        I am willing to bet the contents of both of my bank accounts, because people like this usually are. (Sometimes, as an added bonus, they are so “pro-life” that they’ll murder doctors who perform abortions just to show it.)

      • Mikster

        I am a gunowner who enjoys target shooting, but do not open or carry conceal. They are all locked up at home in vault-safes. I am also pro-choice, pro advanced directives, pro legalization of marijuana and pro Second Amendment rights.
        I condemn this man’s actions and he should be charged with a felony and not permitted to own his guns under that provision.

      • Victoria

        I should have been more clear that I mean the people who take the sort of approach that this man does, that relish shooting animals (in a non-hunting fashion) and take the sort of jingoistic approach to gun ownership. I’ve known (sadly), several people who have done similar things, never killing the animal, but taking delight in shooting at it, even thought it wasn’t legal. I’m not talking about all gun owners, but the sort of person who, immediately after any shooting, before people even start talking about gun control on the offensive about how people are trying to take the guns away.

      • Mikster

        Yeah0- I don’t know that I could hunt animals even for food unless I had to, though I think we should all know more about how to hunt, field dress and handle meat, but I digress. Never for sport- they are living creatures in their own habitat. However, I DO support the culling of white-tailed deer in areas where their overpopulation has created risks to drivers. We even had one charge our youngest son when he was around 9 years old right on our patio! We live in a burb, one street over from a 4 lane state route, that is how prevalent they are here. But also, we can’t cull them ourselves due to the proximity of our neighbors. I can’t abide the thought of people or kids using BB or airsoft guns around animals either- that’s a sign of sickness, IMHO.

      • pixie

        In the area where I did my undergrad they had a huge deer overpopulation problem a few years ago and allowed for bow hunting outside of deer season as long as it wasn’t within city limits. It made a lot of people happy, not just the hunters, but also the people that were in danger of the deer (drivers, small children, drunk college students).

      • Paul White

        well, to be fair to the deer they were here first. But good lord they taste good.

      • Psych Student

        Oh sooooo good! My dad goes deer/elk hunting yearly, usually with family. He leave the guts for the critters (yummy), he and mom strip the deer clean (good meat, jerky, ground burger, etc.) sell or give the hide to a tanner who will use it and toss the bones (though I suppose even those could be given to someone for something). It’s a great use of the animal and everyone in my family who hunts buys a license and only hunt what, where, and when they are allowed. In slightly other news, deer meat sandwiches are one of my favorite things!

      • http://fairlyoddmedia.com/ Frances Locke

        See, you’re a perfect example of an actual responsible gun owner. I think there is a huge difference between the average, responsible gun owner and a nut like this guy. Judging from the plethora of random guns I saw on the guy’s FB page, I highly doubt that he takes the precautions you take.

      • Mikster

        OK- cool. Yes, we are enthusiasts, but the husband is a stickler for safety, locking ammo away form locked guns, etc. and they are not something we post pix of or show off. Good way to be burglarized!

      • Molto Lava

        The guy in this story protected himself from a vicious dog,

        You however think it’s irony that he protected his own life from a real danger and think if he’ pro life he’s some sort of hypocrite.

        You people are out of touch with all reason , all notion of value of human life.

      • gothicgaelicgirl

        How did i know that you’d try and drag Pro-Life/Pro-Choice into this somehow?
        You’re just on that level of stupidity.

      • Paul White

        What’s wrong with carrying?

      • Mikster

        Nothing at all. I just don’t consider myself proficient enough to do that. I am around plenty of people who have CCLs.

      • Molto Lava

        LOL Wow , could you be even more white trashy
        It’s idiotic to support the killing of unborn human babies and be outraged that a man shot a pit bull in his yard.

        Then to go on and say a man should be disarmed and charged with a felony for protecting himself?

        You people are fcking nuts. and completely out of touch with reality. and the value of human life.

      • Mikster

        I object to the mishandling of a firearm. And you can mind your own uterus, TYVM.

      • Molto Lava

        Keep your uterus and leave the baby alone , sicko
        The same reason why you cant see the justice in a man protecting himself from a vicious dog is the same reason why you can’t see the value in the life of an unborn child

      • Psych Student

        I would be more inclined to “leave the baby alone” if the government was at all concerned with the baby once it’s out of my uterus. The anti-choice people are really big on keeping the baby alive before it’s born and then don’t want to support the mother or baby after the fact. And I don’t see the value of an “unborn child” when it’s a fetus. I do, however, see the value of living, breathing, dogs.

      • Weirdo

        What does that have to do with anything?

      • http://fairlyoddmedia.com/ Frances Locke

        You don’t see the irony in someone being pro-life yet reveling in killing and guns? I’m not saying this guy is pro-life, we don’t know either way, I get what she’s saying.

      • Molto Lava

        It’s a vicious dog , you moron. Where’s the irony?

        Having a gun to protect yourself IS pro-life.

      • http://fairlyoddmedia.com/ Frances Locke

        Yeah, except the dog had absolutely no history of being vicious. A lab/pit mix who spent a year hanging out with a rambunctious little girl with no incident doesn’t sound very vicious to me.

        You’re also conveniently leaving out the fact that this piece of garbage posed with the dog ALIVE in the first FB photo. How did he manage that if the dog is SO, SO vicious?

        Where did I say that no one should have guns? I’m a former gun owner myself (sold it legally and responsibly before moving back to NYC due to what I feel are unfair gun laws here). I am a firm supporter of the second amendment. Calling a piece of human filth out for being irresponsible and therefore making the rest of us look bad isn’t anti-gun, it’s anti-stupid.

      • Molto Lava

        You have no idea what the the history or demeanor of the dog was.
        And more importantly, the MAN who shot it knows more about the dog than you.
        You should be sued for your posting here. ”

        this piece of human filth” and I think he can because you are in NYC, where it’s easy to do so

      • http://fairlyoddmedia.com/ Frances Locke

        The situation is obvious. The guy posted directly on social media, on what was at the time an entirely public account, exactly what he did. That photo I posted is still public, and I specifically chose ones that didn’t show anyone’s entire face to protect his privacy (though having the photos public shows his own lack of regard for said privacy).

        I also specifically didn’t post the photos of this douche with the dog, which can still easily be found online, not only because it was graphic, but because I wanted to leave any full face photos out. Mommyish is pretty much the only source who covered this that gave him that much leeway. Once a photo is in a public space (Facebook, Twitter, a public Flickr account, etc) it’s open for fair use.

        I love how you Tea Partiers (not republican, because TPs make real republicans look bad) love to spout off about the first amendment. Unless someone is saying something you don’t like. I gave the man’s statements equal space. I was clear that he’s claiming he did it in self defense. But I’m entitled to my opinion on the matter, and this is an opinion, essay-based site, not the NYT or the Washington Post (I think we’re a lot funnier than those guys anyway).

        I’m guessing you’re from Florida? Getting warm?

      • Molto Lava

        I’m not a ‘tea partier’
        LOL What do they have to do with anything?
        Your mind is clearly some sort of twisted jumble of irrational thought , out of control behavior and warps thoughts.
        This has nothing to do with your idiotic politics and all to do about law
        I will be sending your post to the man, and see if there is some legal action he can take against you

      • Jennifer Freeman

        “You have no idea what the the history or demeanor of the dog was. And everyone knows dogs have a instinct to attack the unfamiliar as a threat.” Exactly. YOU don’t know the history of the dog either. Unless, of course, you are directly involved in the case? Also, not so much on all dogs attacking the unfamiliar as a threat. I have two dogs, one of which is a pit/lab mix. I woke up in the middle of the morning once to hear rustling behind my bedroom window. I thought for sure the dogs were digging up my flowers again, so I looked out the window to see what they were up to. They were up to nothing but laying down at the feet of the pest control person who let himself into our yard to replenish the termite traps. So yeah, maybe you should stop speaking in absolutes.

      • Molto Lava

        That has nothing to do with this story
        The man says the pit bull charged him in his yard and he shot it to stop the attack
        Now, where is your eye witness ? Even the owner of the dog says she wasn’t around and that she was called because her dog was loose and aggressive
        The dog deserved to be shot and killed He was attacking a human being
        Its doesn’t t matter how you feel about your own dogs or when you got them or if you think they human emotions or any personal story you have.

      • Jennifer Freeman

        “Now, where is your eye witness ?” I am asking you this same question. You agree that no one can say the dog isn’t vicious because they were not there to witness what happened, so then you must also agree that YOU cannot say the dog is vicious because YOU weren’t an eyewitness. Try to keep up. Also, my story about my dogs was a direct refutation of your assertion that ALL pitbulls are vicious. It was not intended to mean that the pitbull in THIS story is not vicious. To sum up: unless you were there, you can no more claim that the dog was vicious than anyone who claims the dog wasn’t vicious.

      • Iwill Findu

        I’ve been bitten by dogs in the past you can call the cops and file a complaint on the dog pretty much starting a record of the dog, so that if the dog bite someone else at a later date it would be on file as their next offense as it were. So if there wasn’t a file I’m going to assume it wasn’t an aggressive dog or it was the first offense.

      • proy8

        Oh please, you and I both know this dude was just crouching in his yard waiting for an excuse to go trigger happy. A nonviolent dog accidentally wanders into your yard? Shoot him under the guise of trespassing but actually because you’re a trigger happy psycho.

      • Molto Lava

        You are a mental case.
        The owner of the dog was even called by some other neighbor saying her dog was loose and aggressive

        You’re a mental case because you think your imagination is truth. , that whatever you can imagine must someone become the truthful reality
        It’s the entire reason why you have the obscure irrational beliefs you have.

        You don’t live with reality , you create one in your mind.

      • proy8

        If this moron was trying to “defend himself,” why was the dog shot from behind? According to Kenneth, this dog was violently charging at him.

        Why don’t you work on your reading comprehension a little bit instead of hurling schizophrenic accusations against me?

      • Molto Lava

        Its Maryland, You can bet they are democrats

      • Molto Lava

        Yes, there is a 100 percent chance he’s pro life…..that’s why he shot a vicious dog in his own yard.

        People like you have the lowest intellects in the world. Even someone in a third world country with absolutely no education, would be smart enough to know that a person has a right to protect themselves from a vicious animals, They would not value a dogs life above a human life and they would not think children deserve to die .

      • http://fairlyoddmedia.com/ Frances Locke

        Almost no one here is arguing that responsibly gun owners shouldn’t be allowed to have their guns. I have owned guns, and if I ever happen to move to a state that isn’t hostile to responsible gun ownership, I probably will again.

        I’ll say this again, the dog had NO history of being vicious, and this dude posed with the dog ALIVE in the first FB photo. How did he manage that if the dog was attacking him?

        Also, I’ve found that people who use the term “white trash” are almost exclusively racist. The fact that you feel the need to add the qualifier “white” to trash speaks volumes about how you see people.

      • Molto Lava

        You think that a man protecting himself from a vicious dog is ” a piece of human filthy”

        You aren’t sane.

      • CMJ

        Are you sure you know the definition of sanity?

      • gothicgaelicgirl

        *human filth

      • Robotic Socks

        He sounds like a pro-death guy here.

    • Jessifer

      Not only did he kill that dog but according to the article, the guy had to shoot in the direction of a next door daycare in order to kill it. Any stray bullet could have hit one of the children or staff. One of these days, this maniac is going to end up killing an actual human being!

      • http://fairlyoddmedia.com/ Frances Locke

        I read that too, but the guy is adamant that it isn’t true. I’m not saying I believe him (I definitely don’t) but I wanted to stay on the safe side and not post anything he could sue over.

      • Molto Lava

        He can sue over you posting to his photo , facebook and calling him “this piece of human filth’

        If anyone of the sickos here supporting your idiotic posts does anything to him , you can be charged with a felony.

      • MellyG

        no. just no. and again, no.

      • http://wtfihaveakid.blogspot.ca/ jendra_berri

        Shooting anywhere near a daycare is unconscionable. But then so is shooting a kid’s pet dog.

      • Molto Lava

        There was no daycare.

        and it’s a pittbull , you mohron.
        What the heck is wrong with you people?

      • MellyG

        What is a “mohron”? and why does it matter that it’s a pittbull? Are there certain types of dog breeds it’s ok to shoot?

      • Molto Lava

        I personally know a women attacked by one of your sweet little pit bulls when it’s owner decided it wasn’t important that they control their adorable little pet
        It mutilated her face beyond repair, That disfigurement ended her marriage, left her unable to work And after a few years of living alone, never leaving her house, she committed suicide.

        It’s one thing to put yourself at risk and be so stupid to ignore the dangers, It’s another to put your own family at risk and even a higher brand of moron to insist that everyone else has to deal with your poor choice of a pet.

        The man in the this ridiculously bent article was 100 percent justified in putting down the dog.

      • MellyG

        I hope you are never allowed near pets or kids

      • Molto Lava

        You people are sick in the mind, You devalue human life over the the life of vicious animals

        There is something wrong with your mind , your entire outlook and worldview.

      • Athena A

        No, you are sick in the mind. Not all pitbulls are vicious creatures. I agree, they are more dangerous than other dog breeds, but with proper training and with the right owner they can be great. The dog had shown no previous aggression, there were no complaints. The woman you knew has obviously gone through something horrible and of course aggressive dogs who are a danger should be put down. HUMANELY.
        Shooting a dog that has shown no aggression randomly in your yard because well it’s my yard so nah! is not legal and is very wrong and cruel. This dog was a pet, loved by its owners. It is not legal to shoot animals in your back yard, where a stray bullet could randomly hit a passer by.
        The man was never in any danger, don’t delude yourself. He was a gun-toting nutbag who clearly hates animals and was just waiting for the dog to appear so he could have a chance to shoot it. He could have told the owners to keep it indoors, but nope, straight for the gun. Wonderful human being!

      • Molto Lava

        It’s not on your neighbor to instantly access the range of abilitiesg , upbringing , training and demeanor of your uncontrolled dog in their yard.
        Why? Because there is no way your neighbor could know those things

        There is no way for anyone to know your dog attributes, they can only go by what they reasonably are able to determine from their point of view.

        Thus it is not on this man in the story to stop or hesitate when reacting to a potential threat., not in public and not in his own yard.

      • anonymous

        ok, let me turn this into people instead of dogs. if i said not all black people are dangerous. if they are raised right, they can be just as tame as any other race. what would you say? you would freak the hell out. you would say race has nothing to do with anyone and it is product of the environment, yadda yadda yadda. if more sweet little families purchased pit bulls and raised them like labs, we wouldn’t see the hate. because low class people tend to buy pit bulls, treat them like crap, and encourage aggressive behavior, we think that’s how they are. we just have poor examples of pit bull owners making the news constantly.

      • joe1939

        Well gee,…I personally know you are a complete idiot,…but that doesn’t mean you should be punished for being “stoopid”. The guy fired off his gun in a neighborhood with a DAY CARE next door. That’s STUPID in the extreme. When he brags about wanting to kill and then kills,…that’s premeditated and grounds for a Court Case.

      • Molto Lava

        He protected himself from a vicious uncontrolled pit bull that was on his property , you low intellect .

        It does not matter if a daycare was anywhere around . He did not shoot at a daycare . And the mention of one is a sad attempt to get people , other than the terribly stupid, to side with a vicious dog over a human’s safety.

        There is no such thing as a ‘murder’ of a dog. They are not humans , they do not have human rights.

        They do not have human emotions, , they do not think like a human, they are not human.

        People like you are a risk to all human life, including your own.
        You are the simpletons of the world.

      • joe1939

        Neither are you. It crazy people like you and the “moran” who fired his weapon thinking it somehow made a “big man”,…when all it does is show how mentally damaged idiots like you two really are. Go bang your head into the wall some more,…it might improve your IQ. In both you and the shooter’s case,… It certainly can’t hurt anything.

      • gothicgaelicgirl

        *know a woman
        singular

      • Robert T

        In case people have not noticed, Molto Lava is a troll. Don’t feed the trolls please.

      • Jayamama

        You are the reason Disqus needs to get downvotes back.

      • Molto Lava

        Yeah cus you are a low intellect.

      • gothicgaelicgirl

        *cos

        If you’re going to be insulting, at least let it be through actual insults and not bad grammar and spelling.

      • Jayamama

        I believe you meant “yeah, because you have low intellect.”

      • Molto Lava

        Non-sense It’s a pittbull that came into his yard.

        PItbullls are the number killer of humans. You people are nuts to be in an uproar over this guy protecting himself

      • Jinxie

        “PItbulls are the number killer . . .” What does this even mean?? You are literally too stupid for me to argue with, which is quite a feat.

      • Molto Lava

        It means , you stupid white trash . That the guy has a right to protect himself , NO MATTER how you imagine what the conditions were when he shot the dog.

      • MellyG

        Before you attack others for being “Stupid” – try explaining your thoughts in coherent sentences that others can read.

      • Robert T

        Please don’t feed the trolls. Didn’t you see that sign?

      • Jennifer Freeman

        The poster has been going back an editing the original posts…or having someone else do it. Too cute.

      • Jessifer

        Humans with guns are the number one killer of humans. They far outnumber lethal pitbull attacks.

      • Molto Lava

        You are white trash, That’ is a fact.

        You have a low intellect.
        The man in this article used a gun to protect his own life.
        He did not commit a crime, He did the just and right thing .
        People like you need to be institutionalized. for your stupidity and then no guns will ever have to kill anything.

      • Jessifer

        What “account”? I am posting as a “guest”, so how could you have checked my account if I don’t even have one? Is this what you do all day? Troll various websites and blogs trying to shove your fanatical pro gun ownership views down people’s throats? Do you get paid by the NRA to do this or is this a personal hobby of yours? I come here because it’s an interesting parenting website, but what is your excuse? Maybe you should devote your time to scrapbooking (with rounded scissors, of course – you can never be too careful) or even marathon running (so long as you leave your gun at home and promise not to shoot any animals or people during your run).

      • Molto Lava

        I don’t even own a gun , you mental case

        The man has a right to protect himself from all threats to his person,

        That is a human right and part of the UN charter on human rights.
        A person can use ANY means to protect their life , whether a gun , a rock or their bare hands.

        People like you are a danger to others and society .

        You can’t think clearly even when it comes to the obvious….human life and safety versus and uncontrolled vicious dog.

        It takes a special kind of disorder of the mind to disregard human life for the life of any animal.

      • CMJ

        So, oh wise one, where are you from? How many degrees do you have? I mean, since you insist on calling everyone on this thread (who were, by the way, having perfectly respectable debates until you showed up) poor, uneducated white trash, I feel it’s only fair for you to expound on your background.

      • Molto Lava

        “(who were, by the way, having perfectly respectable debates until you showed up”"

        What are you talking about , you mental midget?

        The nutjob that authored the post called the man who says he protected himself from a charging vicious pit bull , a “piece of human filth”

        You nutjobs can’t grasp “respectable debates”

      • CMJ

        I will answer your questions when you answer mine.

      • TngldBlue

        I see you’ve finally figured out how to properly spell the breed name, well done. Could you practice the proper spelling of moron next? Thanks.

      • CMJ

        Yet spacing and proper punctuation placement continue to confuse them….

      • TngldBlue

        Baby steps!

      • Molto Lava

        … is not used at the end of a sentence…. LOL idiot

      • CMJ

        Ellipses? With an informal thought they can be used at the end of a sentence.

        But I am a mental midget so I am just going to skip on home to my meth/weed lab trailer home and call it a day.

      • Molto Lava

        No they are not. You’ve never seen it in a book , or professional article. Now you are trying to claim “Informal’ when you aren’t allowing the informal from others.

      • CMJ

        Yes. Never in any book. You are so right. Thank you. Thank you!

        I HAVE SEEN THE LIGHT!

      • Molto Lava

        You are grasping to informal now but it’s you that dismissed informal when critiquing my posts.

      • CMJ

        Actually, I think if you’re going to call people morons, mental midgets, and poor white trash, you should use proper grammar, punctuation, and spelling. I don’t care how informal this forum is – if you want to call people morons, you should be a little smarter.

      • Jennifer Freeman

        I am still of the opinion that more than one person is posting under that name. The postings range from nearly illiterate to almost comprehensible. There is too much variation in style and the patterns of misspellings to be from one person.

      • Molto Lava

        What misspellings? Freeman instead of Turner?

      • Molto Lava

        You wrote all that without proper punctuation and grammar, but you are too stupid to know it.

      • Molto Lava

        Retard, there is no such breed called pit bull. It’ not a recognized breed.

      • TngldBlue

        I know that, I don’t think you do though since you’ve used it, misspelled, about 150 times. I didn’t want to confuse you with too much information at once since it’s obvious you have a hard time with facts and intelligent discourse.

      • Marianna

        What exactly is a mental midget? Is it a person of average size who thinks he/she is a midget? I’d like an answer asap, this is very important information you’re relaying to us here.

      • Molto Lava

        Well , it refers to Brazilians who comment on articles in foreign countries, involve themselves in the domestic issues of other countries and have complete and utter ramblings posing as sane thoughts.

      • CMJ

        Since I am the one you called a mental midget, I should point out that I am not Brazilian and I am a United States Citizen. Sorry to burst your bubble. Perhaps I am just a nutjob instead?

      • Molto Lava

        Who is taking to you , freak?
        Your internet ramblings are insane It’s clear you need to see a shrink

      • Molto Lava

        OH so you are commenting with different usernames? So you can bully online?

        Priceless

        And no , mental midget, We don’t teach cursive in schools
        anymore since we invented the personal computer and digital education.

        You are as American as paella .

      • Molto Lava

        Wait, I forgot how crazy you are.

        You might have just injected with a proclamation you aren’t Brazilian unrelated to the “marianna” person because of your low intellect.and bizarro world mental processes.

        It’s hard figuring out the insane.

      • Marianna

        Mental midget must have two different meanings if he’s talking about me (“Brazilians who comment on articles in foreign countries, involve themselves in the domestic issues of other countries”) and you at the same time.

      • gothicgaelicgirl

        And you call other posters uneducated?
        The “nutjob” who “authored” the post…
        Perhaps you meant the author or maybe even the “nutjob who WROTE the post?”

      • TngldBlue

        Please tell us your sources-especially the one supporting pit bulls as the number one killer of humans. I mean, I always thought it was cigarettes with it’s 500,000 annual deaths but apparently there is a murderous dog epidemic I’m unaware of.

      • shel

        Hey! What did Wisconsin ever do to you? We do have actual schools here, some very highly ranked universities in fact.

      • CMJ

        That’s disqus, honey. Bless your heart, you are a special snowflake.

      • gothicgaelicgirl

        Thank you for injecting a little common sense into this twat’s outburst.

      • Roberta

        Cows kill more people than pit bulls. Please have your facts straight before calling others morons.

      • Molto Lava

        No they dont, you fcking idiot.

        Get off the weed and crystal meth.

      • Copperkroewe

        Molto lava You are the Internet idiot of the Day. Congrats you sad little excuse for a human being..

      • Molto Lava

        Please, you people are nuts . You think a man protecting himself form a vicious dog is someone a crime or injustice.

      • Robert T

        Please flag this trolls posts when the posts get to this level … and please do not feed the trolls.

      • gothicgaelicgirl

        *Pitbull
        One “T”

    • EmmaFromÉire

      I hate guns. Passionately. For ever person arguing their responsible use there’s a fucking loony like him wandering around.

      • Jessifer

        What’s scary is their total lack of problem-solving skills which prevents them from coping with even more serious issues in their life. Have a simple problem like a dog walking across your property? Why have to stop and *think* about a logical solution (i.e. call animal control) when I can just use this gun and shoot it? Have a wife about to divorce me? Easy! Just go over there and shoot her! Boss about to fire me? Show up at the office and blow his head off! Problem solved!

      • Mikster

        Oh shoot (pun intended) I forgot to shoot the animals and people that pissed me off this week. We all know that every gun owner shoots without thinking. I better get on that- should I start with the people in the theater who annoyed me, the driver who cut me off or the kids who threw snowballs at my car? @@

      • Alicia Kiner

        I think she was referring to the nutjobs with guns, NOT the responsible people who own guns.

      • Jessifer

        You are right. I wasn’t talking about all gun owners. I don’t own one myself but my parents have several guns which they use strictly for hunting. I am talking about the crazy people who wouldn’t even hesitate to point a gun in someone’s face just for stepping on their lawn (BTW, there ARE people who have shot others just for cutting them off while driving – it’s a very real scenario). These people are terrifying because they are armed and lack normal impulse control.

      • Mikster

        OK- I apologize for misunderstanding your post.

      • Alicia Kiner

        I agree with you… there really should be some kind of licensing exam similar to a driver’s license exam. Yes, we have a right to own guns, but we also have a right to safety. I don’t think it’s infringing on rights to expect people to pass a test similar to a permit test and take a safety course before being allowed to purchase guns. I know many people who have done the latter voluntarily.

      • Iwill Findu

        You pretty much summed up the Canadian gun licensing law. You have to pass two very simple tests one on gun safety ( one written and one handling a gun in front of the instructor), and then if you want to go hunting you have to pass a hunters safety test. Once you have those you can legally buy guns and ammo and the hunters safety is needed to buy animal tags. I don`t see how it`s a big deal to require this of people it`s very simple and only takes an afternoon.

      • Iwill Findu

        Not fair I’m sure there are way more responsible gun owners then these nutters. We just don’t end up in the news because we’re not all nutbar shooting up everything. So it’s just looks 50/50 I would go more like 90/10. With the 10 being the nutters.

    • Fireinthefudgehole

      I’m going to throw up. He really couldn’t have just used a BB gun to appease his shooting fetish? Even that should be the last resort.

    • pixie

      I have no words. A 1 year old dog is pretty much still a puppy. If the dog acted in any way aggressively towards him, it was probably because it felt threatened and afraid, though as others have mentioned the dog was shot from behind and probably wasn’t even aware of the guy with the gun. And who the hell brags about shooting a young kid’s dog and posting pictures posing with the dead dog on Facebook? I want to go cry now, just thinking about a puppy being shot. :(

      • Alicia Kiner

        “And who the hell brags about shooting a young kid’s dog and posting pictures posing with the dead dog on Facebook?”

        This right here says it all. If that dog attacked him, he NEVER would have bragged about killing a dog. Isn’t the first step to becoming a serial killer cruelty to animals. The guy put on his Facebook page BEFORE the dog was shot that he was going to shoot it given the opportunity. That’s not self defense. That’s premeditated. This guy isn’t a hunter, he’s a killer.

        I’m all for 2nd amendment rights, I’m all for being able to defend yourself against someone set on harming you or your family, but what harm is a puppy doing to you as it’s walking away?

      • pixie

        Exactly! It’s not a happy thing when dogs have to be put down for any reason, and that includes if they’ve acted aggressively, because usually it’s not the dog’s fault, they were either trained that way, abused, or frightened and defending themselves/their family.

        There’s clearly a disconnect there within that guy’s brain and it’s gun owners like him that ruin it for responsible gun owners. He should really be checked out mentally (though obviously he wouldn’t do it of his own free will).

      • Molto Lava

        You nutjobs have lost all grasp on reality

        It’s a PITTBULL and it’s not anyone’s responsiblity when a pittbull attacks them to consider them human beings. with human rights.

      • pixie

        Question: do you own any dogs? If so, what breed are they?

      • Molto Lava

        My friend was attacked by a sweet little pit bull own by a moron like you.
        It mutilated her face., which then destroyed her marriage
        Then she committed suicide after a few years of never leaving her house.

      • Paul White

        assuming you’re telling the truth and not just trolling; there’s plenty of other breeds that have mauled people and killed people. Doesn’t meant he whole breed is bad

      • pixie

        See Paul, this is why I like you. :)

        You’ve been attacked by dogs (though didn’t specify any breed, which really, when you come down to it, doesn’t matter anyways), but you still realize that one dog does not define a whole breed.
        We might have different opinions on things (such as guns and when something is considered self defence), but you’ve never stooped to insulting people’s intelligence or saying that they must be “trailer trash” for having certain opinions.

      • Paul White

        They were Australian Shepards.

        I believe in mostly fact based debates about stuff where the are *are* facts (i.e. number of dog attacks attributable to certain breeds). Some stuff gets more touchy feely and I can get kind of testy on those topics.

      • pixie

        Yep. Everyone has certain biases and strong feelings towards certain topics. But I don’t ever recall you being downright mean right off the bat. Even when we disagreed (which I never felt any ill feelings towards you because your opinion on that topic was perfectly valid and I respect it, even if I don’t hold the same opinion) I don’t remember you being anything less than polite.

      • Molto Lava

        Bull,
        Pit bulls are NUMBER one killer, NUMBER one mutilator and number one in dog attacks

        There is a reason for this and it’s not an “attack on our white culture” as some think it is.

        You latched on to a stupid irresponsible notion that for some unknown reason the general public view pit bulls as dangerous killers only because of “stereotyping” or a “bad rap”

        It’s a reality , All pit bulls, regardless of their current behavior are far more a risk than any other type of domesticated dog.

      • Jennifer Freeman

        Are you just copying and pasting random arguments you find online? Or are there multiple people typing under your name? Your writing style/spelling (errors) vary throughout all these posts. Pit bull versus PITTBULL being a prime example.

      • gothicgaelicgirl

        “are *THE number one killer*
        Use your pro-nouns!

      • Robert T

        Please do not feed the trolls, especially ones who makes up details that do not exist .. like the neighbor saying the dog was aggressive … which is nowhere in the story.

      • K.

        Yes, your one friend’s experience is why we should kill all pitbulls.

        And this one nutjob killing a puppy is why we should ban all guns.

        Except if they’re used to kill pitbulls.

        Classic.

      • Molto Lava

        The pit bull in this story ATTACKED the man that shot it.
        That’s not just him saying it . Another neighbor had already called the dog owner to inform her that the dog was loose and aggressive.

        What puppy? Go look at the fkcing pictures. He’s a full grown dog.

        Stop being an idiot. Everyone should be relieved that the man is okay and that the dog didn’t harm anyone.

      • Robert T

        Please don’t feed the troll, especially those that cannot spell, call people names, and are just out to enrage others. He has not even figured out it was a lab (very friendly) cross with a pit bull (friendly unless provoked and even then).

      • K.

        Yeah, I wasn’t paying attention (4 hours ago, when there wasn’t *quite* this much sturm und drang), and after I responded, scrolled down a bit and went, “oh darn. Another 13-year-old boy with nothing to do.”

        (but I do like to feed the trolls, I have to admit).

      • Jessica Johnson

        Clearly your friend was traumatized by being attacked. And that’s really sad. But she would have been just as traumatized had it been a Labrador that attacked her. Or a Coon Hound. Or a Great Dane. Or a Chimpanzee. She wasn’t just traumatized because it was a pit. It was because she was attacked! And frankly, any animal, even a human, has the potential to attack you.

      • gothicgaelicgirl

        *Owned by a moron
        *mutilated her face (woah, watch the punctuation there!) full stop and comma?
        *SLOW CLAP*

        You’re doing well.

      • Robert T

        Please don’t feed the troll. This is a no troll feeding zone.

      • pixie

        Too late. But I’ve been done for hours now, so no more troll feeding from me today. :P

      • gothicgaelicgirl

        *PIT BULL

      • brebay

        I can understand shooting a pit in your yard if you really felt threatened, but most people would feel terrible at having to do it. It’s this love of killing that’s so hard to understand. Really, he probably can’t be charged. A bite from a Pit is serious bodily harm, and the dog was in his yard. He doesn’t even have to show the dog was aggressive, only that his fear of it was legitimate, which is easy to do with a Pit. Whether or not he’s an asshat won’t factor in legally.

      • Natasha B

        Which makes me even angrier. The dog/puppy was a pit/lab mix, and this man could get away with it just because it’s part pit. We have a pit (he’s not a puppy, he’s around 8) and we work hard to make sure he’s well trained and not agressive, but the judge mental looks get really old. All our neighbors have dogs, and let them roam the cul de sac freely-one of them even jumped up and knocked my son off his bike. They’re not little dogs, they’re large hunting dogs. But if we take our Keagan for a walk on his leash, people freak the freak out. Sorry, pit owner rant over.

      • Iwill Findu

        I really hate all the fear that one breed gets at any given time. If you do any amount of research you find that the most breed bites go up when a breed is popular and so everybody owns them (including people that shouldn’t own animals). But because you hear about all these bites they must be these vicious dangerous animals. Not something as simple as more of a breed = more of that dog around to bite people. My uncles own rotties two of his dogs over the years have been beaten to death on his property because jerks have in their heads they need to defend themselves from his “dangerous” animals. Even though they weren’t in any danger.
        I’m sure your pit is a great dog, give him a belly rub for me.

      • Natasha B

        Oh that’s so sad! I agree completely, people only hear about the ‘vicious pit bull’ attacks, and not the lab that ripped someone’s face off or the newborn that was killed by a husky here recently. So many stereotypes.
        I’ll give him a good rub, he is a sweet boy :)

      • Alicia Kiner

        Also, the more popular a breed, the higher the chance of inbreeding, which increases the risks for all kinds of things, including behavioral issues.

      • Katherine Handcock

        One of my parents’ friends had a Doberman during the “Dobermans as guard/attack dogs” phase. Sadie was the sweetest creature ever! They also had a Bernese Mountain Dog who could get quite aggressive. But Bernese look like big fuzzy teddy bears, and Sadie was a DOBERMAN!!!1! When they took the two of them for walks, they would be fighting people off from coming up to hug the big aggressive dog, while trying desperately to reassure the people shying away from the sweet “attack dog.”

        I really wish we’d get out of the habit of demonizing particular breeds and start teaching people behavioural clues to watch for. Even aggressive dogs rarely attack without any previous signals, and it would prevent a lot of awful situations with so-called “harmless” breeds.

      • pixie

        I’ve actually known more aggressive dogs belonging to the “harmless” breeds than I have of the “dangerous breeds”. I’ve never been afraid of dogs, so I’m pretty good at telling when dogs are more aggressive than others because I’m not being timid around them. I also don’t do dumb things like try to run up to strange dogs. I always ask owners if I can pet their dogs, even when my riding coach got a new puppy I made sure it was ok for me to pet/pick up the puppy. Unfortunately, it’s the media that doesn’t do these breeds any favours. Look at TV shows with gangs, all the drug lords have “tough-looking” dogs like dobermans, rotties, and pits, because apparently they’d look silly with a westie for their dog (ok, that would look funny, and I think I’d like to see that…drug lord with a westie lol)

      • Paul White

        I think part of it is people get those breeds and just assume they don’t need to work on training at all. “Oh, its a lab, they’re all sweet right? No need to worry about anything”

      • pixie

        Yeah, I think that’s a big part of it too. Also judging the dog on it’s looks plays a big part. It really just comes down to owners needing to properly train and socialize their dogs no matter what the breed as well as do research on how to best fit the dog’s needs in terms of exercise and eating habits.

      • pixie

        I’ve actually known more aggressive dogs belonging to the “harmless” breeds than I have of the “dangerous breeds”. I’ve never been afraid of dogs, so I’m pretty good at telling when dogs are more aggressive than others because I’m not being timid around them. I also don’t do dumb things like try to run up to strange dogs. I always ask owners if I can pet their dogs, even when my riding coach got a new puppy I made sure it was ok for me to pet/pick up the puppy. Unfortunately, it’s the media that doesn’t do these breeds any favours. Look at TV shows with gangs, all the drug lords have “tough-looking” dogs like dobermans, rotties, and pits, because apparently they’d look silly with a westie for their dog (ok, that would look funny, and I think I’d like to see that…drug lord with a westie lol)

      • Natasha B

        Yes, this so much! It honestly depends so much on the dog owner! My friends actually have two Welsh Corgis, and they recently had to put the male up for adoption, because he was just soooo agressive towards their children that they couldn’t be in the same room. And this is a cute fluffy corgi! He could have def done a great deal of damage to their toddler if given the chance.

      • C.J.

        I know lots of dogs, big and little. I myself own a 100 lb boxer. The most aggressive dog I know is a 35 lb cockapoo. People are afraid of my big lug who isn’t very likely to hurt anyone and don’t think to be afraid of the cockapoo. The cockapoo bit a baby and tries to attack my dog everytime he sees her. My big lug will lay on the floor and happily let kids lay on her and play with her. She turns her back and ignores the cockapoo when it is going crazy trying to get her (they can’t actually get to each other).

      • pixie

        I really hate the stigma attached to pit bulls. They are wonderful, loving, loyal dogs. Unfortunately popular media has done them no justice, which is sad because some of the friendliest dogs I have met have been pits (I’m not frightened of dogs at all). As I’ve mentioned above, the pit breeds are illegal in Ontario but when they passed the law, newspapers published a top-ten list of dogs that had bitten without cause (it was over like the past 5 or 10 years) and pit bulls or any of the related breeds were not on the list. It comes down to the owner. If you’re a good dog owner, you’ll have a good dog no matter what breed, pit or toy poodle. If you’re a shitty dog owner, you’ll probably have a nasty dog (excepting in the case of guard dogs, though; guard dogs can have good owners, but have just been trained to, well, guard, and some are actually quite friendly when they’re not doing their “job”)

        I’ve heard rumours of people trying to convince the Ontario government of lifting the pit ban, though, which is fantastic. Also, a lot of people don’t know what pit bulls actually look like, and some have thought my boyfriend’s fat, little bull dog/boxer cross was a pit. *smh* Give your dog a scratch behind the ears for me :)

      • Natasha B

        I agree. A dear friend of ours is involved in ‘save a pit’ here in Minneapolis, and she does so much work towards helping their image, and fostering abused dogs. They are some of the sweetest, most loyal, happy dogs. And they’re easy to train, and listen well-they have an intense bond with their owners, which means they have an intense need to please you. Poor owner responsibility can cause a great deal of harm, no matter the breed. As I stated above,, our neighbor’s dogs are agressive and actually knocked my 4yo off his bike, but no one said a word. Can you imagine if our Keagan had done that? He would have been confiscated and disposed of. Some dogs are just naturally agressive, no matter the breed-they’re born that way. Some dogs don’t handle being around other dogs well, and some don’t handle small children well. A lab (everyone’s ‘golden’ dog) can be just as agressive as a pit. Everyone loves Dalmatians, but they are actually high on the list of dogs NOT to have around small children, because they are high strung and nervous. More people just need to do their research and find some facts before judging.

      • Molto Lava

        Dalmatians dont go for the juggler. They never kill children
        Pittbulls do ,

        Do their research? Pitt bulls ,even tho they are least owned, kill more than any type of dog
        They start off sweet and kind and are prone to snapping

        The fact you take a risk with not only your own life but everyone around you, proves how incredible stupid you are .
        You aren’t “more loving and caring” because you ramble on about saving pitbulls. , you are simpleton who risks the live of humans

      • Natasha B

        Do YOUR research. There is documentation of Dalamations, and many, many other breeds of dogs causing harm to people. I didn’t mean to swing the other way and say they are bad dogs, it all comes down to training and temperament, no matter the breed. Dogs are animals, and that needs to be remembered.

      • CMJ

        NOT THE JUGGLERS! ANYTHING BUT THE JUGGLERS!

      • Véronique Houde

        I’m lost… Is she trying to say jugular?

      • Jennifer Freeman

        I believe that was the poster’s intent. Juggler is funnier though :)

      • Robert T

        Ya man ,,,,, when you have three dogs up in the air, the danger is unbelievable!

      • Iwill Findu

        I’ve been bitten by a number of dogs over the years (thanks to a childhood delivering news papers) I’ve been bitten by a beagle, a terrier, a huskie, a german shepherd, a collie (fuck lassie), and your dear dalmatian. All of them well I was walking away, and I knew enough to avoid aggressive behavior in dogs.

        You can’t claim the owners didn’t know I was coming because they were paying me to bring them the paper. In fact the dalmatian owner accused me of provoking her dog when I would never willingly go near her dog, if her dog was outside I would leave the paper tucked into the gate and not the door like she had asked for, because I didn’t want to go into her yard. So I called the cops to file a report on the dog bite to have a record of the vicious dog, and I stopped bring her paper. Because hell at lest be sorry if your dog bites a kid bitch.

        The fact is any dog with teeth (which was all breeds) last time I checked can bite someone and since there isn’t a magic breed that doesn’t bite. But just keep dreaming that dalmatians never bite anyone.

      • TngldBlue

        During high school I worked at a Veterinary Hospital that also boarded animals. You know what breed all 3 vets warned me to be very careful around? Dalmatians.

      • Iwill Findu

        I’ve been bitten by enough different dog breeds over the 10 years on my paper route that I got pretty good at spotting and avoiding aggressive dogs, and knowing that one dog doesn’t define a whole breed. I wouldn’t say I’m scared of dogs but I know enough to be careful around an animal that I don’t know. Which I think is just smart.

      • Guest

        Of course Dalmatians don’t go for the jugglers, they go for the clowns-everyone knows this.

      • Robert T

        Best post today!

      • gothicgaelicgirl

        Isn’t going for the “juggler” how you kill a circus?
        *Pit bull
        *Though

      • Molto Lava

        You are so out touch with reality , you are placing human attributes on an animal , and an animal that is known to be a killer.
        You are a moron for having a pit bull.

      • Paul White

        Damn near every type of animal is a killer given the right circumstances. Pomeranians and Dachshunds have killed infants on occasion FFS.

      • Natasha B

        You are absolutely right. We do have a pit, and three (soon to be four) small kids, and while we know he is a good dog, we do exercise caution and use common sense. He is a dog, and sometimes he gets tired of the 20month old trying to sit on him, so he goes to ‘his space’ and they leave him alone. She usually makes it up to him by sharing 50% of her dinner, though.

      • Molto Lava

        The stupidity of white trash hold no bounds .

        If you bought a single pit bull to be around your own children then you are dumb as a stump, willfully ignorant enough to put even the slightest of risk on your own children.

      • Molto Lava

        Total non-sense A Daschsunds could have the will to kill, but not the means.
        You are risking OTHER people’s safety and right to be free of fear when you let your pit bull get out of your control .
        In a free society for all , YOUR rights (to stupidly own a dog with the potential will and obvious means to mutilate and kill) END where the RIGHTS of OTHERS begin

        Thus in this article , the man is completely justified for shooting the dog

        It’s not on him to take a risk to his safety or ability to live without fear of an attack. It’s the dog owner’s responsibility to insure that their pet does not negatively effect other people.

      • Paul White

        You know, you can look up actual statistics right? Dachshunds *have* killed infants. Not every often (I think 2-3 times in the last 35 years) but it has happened.

        I don’t own pits, or any other high energy dog because I’m not interested in a pet that needs *that* much mental stimulation and exercise.

      • Molto Lava

        Total non-sense

        Face reality

      • CMJ

        There is no hyphen in the word nonsense.

      • Jennifer Freeman

        Yeah, but jugglers aren’t safe around pit bulls… :) Too many errors in the poster’s writing. Can’t even begin to argue.

      • CMJ

        I’m just waiting for this person to call me uneducated, white trash.

      • Jennifer Freeman

        Don’t forget to stay off the weed and meth and to keep living in your trailer park delusion! Totally going ot use those phrases from now on.

      • Robert T

        Or in Troll

      • CMJ

        Thanks, dude. I know it’s a troll. I am perfectly capable of enraging them, feeding them, flagging them, and choosing to respond to them. This one was fun. I have no regrets.

      • gothicgaelicgirl

        *Nonsense
        *Daschund

      • brebay

        You’re right, and I know some sweet Pitts too. As I said, even if the rep isn’t deserved, it’s there. I had a neighbor who used to nap on his pit bull, that do was afraid of the cat. And this guy was looking for trouble, but there is still the fear, and you have to protect the dog.

      • pixie

        Sorry, but pits are actually no more likely to bite than any dog. Any dog bite is serious bodily harm. The popular media does not do the breed justice. Most people don’t even know what a pit looks like. When the “pit breeds” (pit bulls, staffordshires, bull terriers), became illegal in Ontario several newspapers put a list out of the top ten dogs that had bitten without cause in the past year that was known about. What was not on the list? ANY of the pit breeds. The number one on that list? Everyone’s beloved German Shepherd. Even labs were on the list. They don’t have a locking jaw, as a lot of people claim.

        I mean this in a completely non-snarky way, but please educate yourself on the breed outside of the media before passing judgement on the breed as a whole. There are shitty dog owners, yet, but there are shitty dog owners of any breed, and really, 99% of the time it comes down to the owner, NOT the dog or the dog breed.

      • Natasha B

        I just want to hug you, Pixie! You sum up how I feel on this topic so well!!!

      • pixie

        :D Yay hugs!

        Both my parents are dog people and my grandmother had dogs for much of my childhood (one of them was an Akita/Malemute cross the other some form of mutt that was gigantic, and both were very well trained and good with people), so I was taught to respect dogs early on and developed a love for all breeds, and especially the ones that are typically viewed in a more negative light. I just feel very strongly against vilifying specific breeds. :)

      • Paul White

        A pit may not be more dangerous than most other large breeds, but a bite from *any* powerfully built 80 lb dog is pretty significant.

      • pixie

        That’s part of what I was getting at. It doesn’t matter the breed, the bite is still going to be bad, especially from a large dog.

      • Natasha B

        That is absolutely a valid point. A large breed dog can do a great deal of damage, which is why responsible owners put a great deal of time and effort into proper training and education.
        It drives me even more batty when irresponsible (not all!) owners of small/mid breed dogs don’t bother to train their pocket puppies, and allow them to jump all over and exhibit agressive behavior, because they’re ‘harmless’. Sorry, but even a small dog can do damage, if allowed access.

      • Paul White

        I hate small dogs, but while they can be dangerous to infants and small children, the potential for death or serious maiming to an adult is less.

      • Molto Lava

        Sorry but no, PItt bulls just dont “bite” , They mutilate and kill.

        Snap out of your trailer park delusion

      • pixie

        Oh, sweetheart. My “trailer park delusion”?

        You really know nothing about me, let alone where I live or my socio-economic status. You also really know nothing about the breed. Mutilate and kill? Go for the “juggler” [sic]? No. Your “research” about the breed is a joke.

      • Molto Lava

        There is a reason why only poor white uneducated trash are dumb enough
        to bring a pit pull home, and it’s not because they are “more loving”
        Pitt bulls are not even close to being a top owned type, yet they do almost 60 percent vicious attacks on humans, they are almost always the killer in any dog attack
        You are risking every human life around you for your fantasy world where pit pulls are some sort of victim of society

      • pixie

        “Poor white uneducated trash”.

        I’ll give you white. Hell, I’ll even give you poor, but that’s what being a student does to you. Most of my money goes towards my university education.

        Plus, not to mention that the majority of attacks credited to pit bulls aren’t even done by pit bulls. Sled dogs and mixed breeds have higher bite rates than pit bulls, but I don’t see anyone clamouring to go and ban huskies. Have you met a pit bull? Have you spent ANY length of time around pit bulls?

        None of us are making them into victims, but are saying it’s unfair to vilify specific breeds over others. You are the one claiming they’re things they are not.

      • Molto Lava

        Non-sense, Pitt bulls are not an official breed of dog. They are all mixes Whenever you hear pit bull attack , it was a pit bull.
        In a FREE society for ALL, your rights end where the rights of others begin
        That is why the guy in this story is justified for shooting the dog.,

        Your right to stupidily own a potentially vicious dog does not over power his right to be in public or on his own property free of the risk of the dog.

        I could be on your side, if you said something like , “Okay , dogs can be vicious mutilators that killer, therefore dog owners should always be in control of their pet and never risk harm or instilling of fear in others”
        But you aren’t You came to this article declaring the dog somehow has human rights and the man is somehow a monster for shooting it.
        You have no respect of other people’s rights.,safety or ability to live free of fear in society

      • pixie

        All dogs have the potential to bite and attack without cause and all dog owners SHOULD properly train their dogs and take all possible precautions.

        Yes pit bulls are a mix of breeds and are not recognized by the American Kennel Club, however, a boxer is not a pit bull, a mastiff is not a pit bull, and a stafforshire terrier is not a pit bull. NONE of those breeds look like pit bulls and all three are recognized by the AKC yet people uneducated in various dog breeds and what they look like continue to call the latter three “pit bulls”.

        Also, the American Pit Bull Terrier IS recognized by the United Kennel Club AND the American Dog Breeders Association.

      • pixie
      • Molto Lava

        It’s an advocacy group in canada .

        Please, white trash, You are a complete moron, just like the others here who gleefully put their own children, themselves and everyone else around them at risk
        Pit bull ownership doesnt come from a smart place. It’s comes from being ignorant and low class.
        I have yet to see anyone owning a pit bull except for low class people , especially in the US and Canada
        There is a reason for this, It takes a special kind of stupid to fail to see reality , and to willfully put your own children and yourself at a 24/7 risk in your own home.

        You people should not only be disallowed from having pets,, you should be allowed to breed yourselves.

        ONLY stupid white trash own pit bulls.

      • pixie

        Oh yes because the AMERICAN Society for the Protection of Animals, based in New York is a Canadian advocacy group? I wasn’t aware that New York is in Canada. I should know, I’m Canadian.

        I refuse to argue any further with someone who not only is uneducated about various dog breeds but also claims that I and others here should not breed but also has a very limited grasp on basic spelling and grammar and resort to calling us “stupid white trash” when they know zero about any of us, including socio-economic status.

      • Tinyfaeri

        Pssst. If you stop feeding the troll, maybe she/he will go back under whatever bridge she/he crawled out from under.

      • pixie

        I’ve stopped feeding them now. ;)
        I just couldn’t help myself. :P

      • Tinyfaeri

        It’s sort of like watching reality TV, isn’t it?

      • pixie

        It really is.

      • CMJ

        But TINY, this troll seems fun to feeeeeed. (in my whiniest voice possible)

      • Tinyfaeri

        As long as you’re having fun, dear, feed away! As your personal penguin, I am here for emotional support. And ice. I have ice, too.

      • Paul White

        I know. But sometimes I can’t tell a troll from someone that’s just an idiot and I always have this faint hope I can fix the idiot.

      • Tinyfaeri

        I’m all for faint hopes, but you really can’t fix trolls. And someone who uses various spellings of “moron” (even though there’s only one) on a post with a controversial topic (which includes pitties) is totally a troll. And we all know they really belong on Yahoo! comment sections.

      • Robert T

        The troll is an idiot and geese are hungry … shouldn’t feed either.

      • Robert T

        Don’t feed the troll, just flag his posts.

      • pixie

        Do I have to reply to every single of your replies to me?
        Please, please look at the time stamps. This happened hours ago. I stopped replying to them. I say in a post (ok, 2 posts) that I am no longer going to argue with them.

      • Guest

        Dude, you’re turning into the troll. Just let them be.

      • gothicgaelicgirl

        *it comes
        *See anyone own

        Making friends all over the place huh?

      • pixie

        And as a last comment before I go back to the papers I have to write for school, the dog was walking AWAY from him. Not a threat. He also bragged about shooting it both before and after he shot the dog. Had the dog actually attacked him and he didn’t brag about it, I would be glad he was ok. This is a completely different situation.

      • Molto Lava

        As if you are intelligent. lol

        ONLY dumb white trash are going are here angry about a guy shooting a pit bull that entered his property

        ONLY dumb white trash refuse to see the obvious danger to human life and body from a type of dog known for snapping .

        I in fact know a woman who was attacked by a pit bull, it mutilated her face . She then ended up getting divorced,, then committed suicide a few years later,.

        People like you are a risk to everyone You are too stupid to value human lives above animals and too moronic to even see the dangers of loose pets on the lives of others.

      • CMJ

        You REALLY need to stop calling other people mohrons (sic), white trash, stupid, etc. when you cannot even grasp basic spelling and grammar.

      • Robert T

        May I just suggest everyone flag the troll. He obviously is not civilized enough to be around the rest of us.

      • gothicgaelicgirl

        Since when is nonsense a conjoined word?
        *Stupidly

      • Natasha B

        I’m feeling ‘trolled’ here, am I right?!

      • pixie

        Pretty much, lol.

      • Robert T

        Stop feeding the troll please.

      • pixie

        Look at the time stamp. It says 7 hours ago. I stopped ages ago, like I replied to you before. You’re way late to the game.

      • Molto Lava

        Musiology is not an education. It’s a wasted life.

      • Natasha B

        Oh, my. Let’s throw socioeconomics into this. I could go so far as to say the man who committed the original crime was very much ‘trailer trash’, just from following the link, but I kept my mouth shut. You’ve got me at white, but lost me at uneducated, and the poor implication. My personal opinion is that a great deal of misconceptions about pit bulls in particular are they way they are portrayed in popular media-music videos, movies, as ‘fighting dogs’, etc.
        Google recent fatal dog attacks on young children, and many breeds will pop up.

      • Alicia Kiner

        You really do need to do your research. Yes pit bulls are used for dog fighting now because people are stupid and cruel. But, historically, and please look this up, check with the AKC, pit bulls were “Nanny“ dogs. Breeds are not automatically aggressive, just some are more predisposed to higher aggressive behavior than others. Like people. And whether or not pit bulls have mutilated anyone in the past has no bearing in this case as the dog was running away from the man with the gun and never attacked him. So all your rantings about this horrible breed are basically victim blaming.

      • Ms. Anne

        Well, you know, I find that jugglers really are the most dangerous performers at the circus. People think it’s the lion tamers, but really those jugglers are just lying in wait, distracting people with all their balls.

      • pixie

        Bahahaha. Damn those jugglers. And it’s not just the balls. They have chainsaws, too! And knives! And things on fire!

      • Jennifer Freeman

        Damn them and their balls!

      • Paul White

        Being fair, I usually go for jugglers too. They’re annoying as hell

      • gothicgaelicgirl

        O God, where to start on this one…
        *PIT BULLS
        Extra, comma and spacing.
        Your sentence structure speaks volumes about your personality…

      • brebay

        I didn’t say they were more likely to bit, I did not say that, if you re-read it I said that any dog can bite, but a BITE from a Pit tends to do more damage because of the physiology of the animal, that’s all. No more or less likely to be aggressive than any other well-raised dog, but I’ve been bitten by two sweet pups while running just because they have an evolutionary mechanism to chase. Not a really severe injury, but I’ve seen Pits do the same thing, just playing, and their BITE is much more likely to require surgery to repair, which is all I said.

      • pixie

        Ok. Sorry for the misunderstanding, I wasn’t trying to be snappy with you. I was still half asleep when I read it initially. :)

      • brebay

        No, it’s cool. I know people have strong feelings about Pitties, and they do get a bad rap. I admit they still scare me, even though I’ve known some sweet ones. It’s just that potential that scares people, but I think their reputation is changing. At least if this board is any indication.

      • pixie

        Yeah, I hope so. I don’t blame people being wary of some dogs, or even of any dog. My best friend got bit pretty bad as a kid by a border collie and is now nervous of most dogs that she doesn’t know, but she still likes the idea of them and loves animals.

      • MellyG

        You’re probably right. Especially since it wasn’t the shooting of a human, but property. I would hope, however, that a good prosecutor can use the facebook updates to prove that it wasn’t fear, but pre planning to kill the dog. If you’re really in enough apprehension that you need to shoot something, you don’t have time to update facebook about your plans. Hopefully a prosecutor or jury will see it the same way

      • brebay

        Yes, the posts would be evidence. But it could be the case that he both a) planned to shoot the dog and b) actually was in reasonable fear at the time he shot it, as they aren’t mutually exclusive. Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to see this guy prosecuted, but I just don’t see a prosecutor moving a dead Pit Bull to the front burner.

      • Robert T

        Unless this guy just happened to be wandering in his yard with a rifle …. unlikely at the time, odds are he went into his house … where he was completely safe, took the time to get his gun, then came out and shot the dog in the back (hero) … That fear may be hard to prove given his past bragging.

        Tell the truth, if he was your neighbor, would you want him owning a gun?

      • Molto Lava

        It doesn’t matter., It’s a dog not a human.
        It can not be reasoned with, it can not speak it’s intentions .

      • brebay

        Of course not, I wouldn’t want to live anywhere near him, all I did was correctly state the law.

      • Natasha B

        I followed France’s link and read the article, and wish I hadn’t. The whole thing makes me sick. He obvs murdered the puppy just to prove he has bigger balls than anyone else.
        Also, the idiot has no idea how to spell or use proper grammar, which made me judge him even more. Bastard.

      • pixie

        I refuse to follow the link because I know it’ll make me upset. :(

    • CMJ

      Fuck this guy.

    • AP

      Poor puppy :( If he wanted to teach the doggie a lesson, he could have squirted it with a garden hose or put something icky-smelling down at his property line.

    • guest

      “Charged” probably just means it was walking toward him. I’m also sure the owner being a different colour had ZERO effect on his completely rationale decision.

    • Mikster

      I condemn this man’s actions and hope that he is charged with a felony that will revoke his right to won guns in the future. And I am a strong supporter of the Second Amendment and target-shooting enthusiast.

      • footnotegirl

        Considering the fact that he’s been charged with carrying illegal firearms in the past, that’s a good bet after this.

    • http://wtfihaveakid.blogspot.ca/ jendra_berri

      Poor doggy :(

    • Momma425

      You know, our neighbors growing up had two very large, very aggressive dogs that dug under the fence and got into our yard a few times. Once, they almost bit our sweet golden retriever, and we had to lock everyone inside until their owners were able to come over and get their dogs. Mom threatened to call animal control if it kept happening. I remember it being really scary.

      I’m not denying that sometimes, there are situations in which aggressive animals need to be put down, or in which their owners need to put in place some pretty drastic measures in order to make sure their pets don’t get out. But putting down an animal should be a last resort thing, and never ever something to brag and feel great about. If this man was so concerned, he could have gone inside his home, locked the door, and if the owner couldn’t get home fast enough- called the police or animal control to come and remove the dog from his property. Who takes pictures of killing a puppy?! What an absolute psycho!

      • Alicia Kiner

        My grandparent’s neighbors had this super aggressive dog that would jump their chain link fence and come after me every time I was alone in their backyard. If there was an adult around, he just growled at me. It took the dog actually biting me in the back before the neighbors would put up a taller fence to keep him in. I was 4.

    • Ro

      This makes me sick to my stomach! I really hope he doesn’t get away with this. What a psychopath!

    • Jen85

      How is it a “little girls” dog. You state the owner is 21, she is a woman! What this guy did is horrible all on its own, no need to exaggerate.

      • pixie

        The dog was a gift for the 21 year old’s 4 year old daughter.

      • Molto Lava

        Yeah cus a 3 year old can control a pit bull or even take care of it.

        The dog’s owner was 21 , underage children don’t own anything.

    • Jessica

      This dog (Tank) was a mascot for the daycare that he was most likely heading to! Since he was facing in that direction – a place he frequented. The children all loved him and that is why he was buried there. This nut wanted an excuse to use his gun. He was arrested before for hunting without a license, along with some other crimes. Besides it isn’t even HIS property – he was just “staying” at that house when he wasn’t at his girlfriends. He is a sicko & he proved that by posting the pictures. I hope he is found guilty which would mean he wouldn’t be allowed to ever own another gun. THEN brake that law and go to jail for a long ass time!

      • brebay

        Doesn’t have to be his property for him to legally assert a property right, as long as he wasn’t trespassing. If he was staying there legally he’s entitled to use the force he did. I wish he hadn’t, and I think he’s a nut, but a petition doesn’t change existing law. He’ll be held to the law as it existed at the time he shot the dog, and he was legally allowed. Sorry. Bad situation.

      • Iwill Findu

        But he did fire a firearm within city/town limits. Last time I checked that was a crime in most places. Shouldn`t that be enough cause of remove his guns. Also if they’ve already caught this guy poaching (because hunting without a license is poaching) how was he still able to own a firearm?

      • Molto Lava

        That is not a crime in any place.

        There is a justified use of a firearm and an unjustified use.

        There is no such thing as no usage allowed.
        The man had a justified use.

      • Iwill Findu

        Yet the dude is a CRIMINAL because poaching is a crime. Was still allowed to own a firearm? I can’t believe you’re siding with a CRIMINAL. As far as I can tell this criminal was a total wakko. This guy has no respect for any animal life because he’s a poacher and they are the worst scum on the planet with no regard for any rules they just want to kill animals for their own shits and giggles.
        I hate this guy for poaching alone he shouldn’t have been allowed to own a firearm ever again. So sorry if I don’t take the word of a CRIMINAL that this dog attacked him.

      • Molto Lava

        The dog was not a mascot for the daycare.

      • footnotegirl

        Cite your source, it was buried at the daycare with the children present and mourning.

      • Molto Lava

        That’s easy , the petition says the women got a ride home from the “cousin” from the daycare
        The shooting thus was no where near the daycare.
        No daycare allows dogs that I know of.

      • Molto Lava

        Daycares do not have mascots. they do not have pit bulls allowed in a daycare.

        The irresponsible pet owners works at a daycare , Her cousin has to give her a ride to go home.
        thus the daycare is no where near the home.

      • footnotegirl

        Cite your source! That is ABSOLUTELY not in any article I’ve seen. It’s sounding more and more like you’re a friend of the gun nut.

    • brebay

      He’s a pig. Also, if you’re going to take on the responsibility of owning a Pit, regardless of previous temperament, you need to do a better job of securing it. While a call to animal control would have been the thing to do here, owing certain breeds means you do need to do a better job of protecting the dog from people who have a legitimate fear of certain breeds based on the relative damage from a bite compared with a bite of other breeds. Too bad this pooch had to pay the price for two irresponsible humans.

      • Iwill Findu

        The dog was a lab pit cross calling it a pitbull is just a way to justify the fear of pitbulls I could sit here and say it was a lab, and labs don’t have the same sigma that pits have.

        Also no method of securing an animal is going to be 100% I mean my sister once ran over an small insidehouse dog (no she didn’t crash into the house) the owner went to open the door to pay for a pizza and the dog got out. By the time the owner put his shoes on to go after the dog it had ran into the street and was hit. This guy was waiting to shoot this dog so sooner or later it would have happened because he’s a nutter. I’m sure if the owner had known this crazy guy was all a quiver over shooting her dog she would have kept a better eye on it.

      • brebay

        I totally agree he was looking for an excuse to shoot the dog. And yes, no method is fool-proof. I just think for the safety of the dog, knowing the reputation, even if it isn’t deserved, it’s a dangerous situation for the dog. I think even someone who wasn’t an ass looking to kill something might be more apt to shoot a Pitty than another breed. Not fair, just true.

      • footnotegirl

        Three’s actually no legit difference between the bite of a pit bull or any other large dog. In point of fact, most people INCLUDING ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS can’t tell a pit bull from any number of breeds. The only problem with pit bulls are the humans that own them. Any dog can be trained to be violently aggressive and vicious. Back in the 70′s, it was Doberman Pinschers that were the big ‘evil bad breed’ and then it was Rottweilers, and now it’s Pit Bulls. It’s not the breed, its the owner/breeder. Period, full stop.

      • Katherine Handcock

        I just wrote a comment above about some friends who had a sweet Doberman during the “Dobermans are evil” phase. Like I said there, I think we need to focus on teaching behavioural signals rather that fear of particular breeds. A vicious dog bite is BAD no matter what breed of dog it comes from.

        Now that I think of it, one of the scariest dogs I ever saw was a crazy little miniature Daschund that attacked our full-grown standard poodle (she was big for a standard poodle, too.) Picture a dog about 5 inches at the shoulder attacking a dog that’s about 20 inches at the shoulder. It was out for blood, too.

      • pixie

        Yes, yes, yes!
        I can kind of recognize a pit bull because I’m pretty good at recognizing breeds, but I know a lot of people who can’t (last time I was confused was when I met a guy who had a pit and 2 dogs that looked similar, but weren’t…he said they were canine corsos, but looking at pictures of that breed I’m not totally sure that’s what they were). When the ban on pits first began in my province, there was one news paper that showed a picture of a “pit bull” on the front page. Except it wasn’t a pit bull…it was a black lab. At 14 I took one look at that picture and laughed my ass off because it wasn’t even close to looking like any of the so-called pit breeds (staffordshire, bull terrier, pit bull, etc). People have called my boyfriend’s bull dog/boxer cross a pit bull before. Not only is she way too short and fat and have a wrong body shape, but her head is totally the wrong shape as well.
        I really hope they lift the ban where I live…

      • Paul White

        How about, if you’re going to own ANY dog keep it on your property, particularly if it’s a large-ish type? I’m not going to defend what that guy did here, but I’ve been attacked by a group of unrestrained dogs so I’m kind of bitter about the topic.

      • Katherine Handcock

        This I will certainly support! In my mind, it is always dangerous to have a dog (really, of any size — see my story about the crazy monster miniature Dachshund above) loose and unattended, because 99.9% of the time things will be fine, but when things go wrong, it can be quite dangerous.

        My parents owned a standard poodle, and what a lot of people (including my parents when they chose that breed) don’t know is that they can be very territorial and the females in particular can be aggressive. Allie was a sweetheart, but she could definitely be dangerous, especially to people on bikes, which she seemed to particularly target. We were VERY careful with her once we realized what a problem it could be. In the end, my dad built a fence around a not-inconsiderably-large property to make extra sure she couldn’t get away from us to the road.

      • footnotegirl

        Absolutely people should do whatever they can to keep their dog on their property. (And their cats, imho). That said, there’s no proof that this dog attacked the man, he clearly was intending to kill the dog before he had any contact with it, and there’s no reports of this dog attacking anyone else.
        I was bitten by a dog while i was inside the owners house. I’m bitter about that too. Doesn’t mean it’s okay for me to shoot a dog just for being in a house with me.

      • brebay

        I’ll tell you who can tell: a plastic surgeon. Don’t put words in my mouth, I never said they were more likely to be “evil.”

    • footnotegirl

      Some people are hunters because they enjoy killing living things. It gives them a thrill to violently end a life. This is one of them.

      • Molto Lava

        The man in this story was protecting himself from a vicious uncontrolled pit bull.

        What planet are you on?

      • footnotegirl

        There’s absolutely no evidence that this was a ‘vicious and uncontrolled pit bull’. This was a child’s pet, a pit bull/labrador mix, only a year old, and he posted that he was going to kill it FROM INSIDE HIS HOUSE BEFORE HE DID SO. Which means he was safe and then intentionally walked into supposed danger, though there’s no proof that this dog attacked him. He clearly and provably intended to kill the dog before any contact with the dog took place.

      • Molto Lava

        You are an idiot. The other neighbor called the dog owner to tell her it was on the loose and aggressive.
        It’s not a puppy.

        YOU dont’ know where the fck he was when he posted that. , he could have been on his phone Or the dog could be attacking over and over.
        Dogs are not humans , they don’t have human rights

      • footnotegirl

        Cite your source on ‘loose and aggressive.” She was informed the dog was loose. Nothing is stated about being aggressive. The dog was shot in the SIDE which means NOT FACING OR ATTACKING this arse.

      • Molto Lava

        No one shot a dog for just being on the loose, moron

        This is not a play being preformed in you low sloping head. It’s reality.

      • footnotegirl

        So you can’t cite a source, aka you were lying.
        This guy said that he was going to shoot the dog and then would brag about it, and then he went out, shot the dog that was neither aggressive nor attacking him, and went on to brag about it. It DOES actually matter, when you claim the dog was ‘being aggressive’ and then the location of the bullets proves that the dog was NOT being aggressive at the time.

      • Molto Lava

        You are a moron, The man himmself says he was attacked

        Why don’t you believe him?
        It says it on the picture he posted
        You are just a very stupid person whose gotten hold of a device that allows you to ramble on the internet.
        It does not matter , Dogs are low to the ground , you idiot
        The man would shoot down at the dog. He wouldnt get down on the ground and shoot directly into his face.

      • footnotegirl

        I don’t believe him because he said that he was going to kill the dog before he could possibly have been attacked. He shot the dog in the side, which means the dog wasn’t even facing him. The man has a history of threats and killing animals illegally (and DUI, etc), and the dog has no history of aggression.

      • Molto Lava

        The dog was on the loose and obviously aggressive, The fact the man got sick of the vicious dog then went into his house is not an issue,
        Dogs do NOT attack standing on their hind legs!! You fkcing idiot!!
        It’s not like a human
        Nothing about a DUI has ANYTHING to do with if the dog attacked. or if he was justified in stopping the dog

        You are just a mentally slow person. who can’t use logic or reason.

      • footnotegirl

        Cite reports that back up your assertion that the dog was ‘obviously aggressive’. There are no reports of the dog ever biting anyone, and there are reports that the dog was the mascot of the local daycare center.
        Dogs may not be on their hind legs when they attack, no. But they still can’t attack when not even facing the target. They can’t attack a target that is inside a house (as the shooter was when he first stated that he would kill the dog and brag about it).
        I have to say, I’m agreeing more and more with some of the other posters here. You’re either this guy, a relative of this guy, or you also get your jollies killing things that are no threat to you.

      • Molto Lava

        The mans says he was attacked. You don’t need more evidence than that,
        All the facts support his statement ,including other neighbors who in fact complained to the woman that her vicious dog was on the loose.
        That alone tells you that caller didn’t want to approach the dog themselves.
        The dog was in fact on the guys property . The dog obviously was not timid or he would LEAVE when yelled at.
        Dogs no not have human rights. There is no trial , no jury , no way to ask a dog their intentions.

        Now I’m the guy?
        LOL
        THE DOG IS NOT HUMAN IT DOES NOT HAVE HUMAN RIGHTS . Dogs do dot have human emotions, or thoughts

        There is no such thing as a dog being able to make moral judgments of right or wrong,
        Where is witness that says the man was not attacked or that the dog was not aggressive in his yard?

        Until you get some evidence that the dog did NOT attack the man to refute all the supportive evidence, you are just rambling non-sense and repeating the non-sense of others.

      • footnotegirl

        Actually, that’s not the way it works. Though the dog does not have rights, its owner does. The onus is on him to prove that he was attacked. Since he threatened to kill the dog before the dog could possibly have been threatening towards him, it would be difficult for him to prove that he had to protect himself from the dog. That he has no defensive injuries (or at least, none are noted) that he does not claim to have been attacked (only that the dog was behaving aggressively) and that the dogs wounds show that the dog was not facing him or moving towards him when he shot it is all pretty good proof that he was not being attacked and that the dog was not moving aggressively towards him.
        You have yet to cite your sources on neighbors saying the dog was aggressive. I’ve looked at the linked article and done a search and read other articles, and none make this assertion. Please, cite your sources, or we are just going to have to believe that you are making this up out of whole cloth.

      • Molto Lava

        Non-sense, you complete and utter stupid broad.

        The onus is on the attacked to prove what? That an attack occurred?
        OH man, you just released all rapists from prison with that idiotic comment.
        You are not lawyer, You are not CSI person, You are not even a vaguely intelligent person.
        He doesn’t need defensive injuries to shoot the dog , you fcking clown.
        Did you group up in closet? Who did you get this stupid?

        The other neighbors complained to the woman It’s a fact.

        You are one of the dumbest people I’ve met here
        If the guy called the police , they police would not have to wait for the dog to bite them to shoot it.
        They would just shoot it.
        Human’s have a RIGHT to life and the protections of their person.

      • footnotegirl

        If it’s a fact, then you can cite your source. It’s very easy to do so!
        There is vast amount of evidence that he was out to kill the dog when it was absolutely no danger to himself. Again, he stated he was going to kill the dog while in the safety of his own home.
        Again, there is no evidence that this dog attacked him, that the dog was aggressive, that the dog had ever bitten anyone, or that he or anyone in his household was in any danger. Until there is evidence of this, he shot the dog for no cause.
        p.s. No amount of name calling is going to raise my dander, so you might as well type more efficiently and stick to the actual claims that you are making.

      • Molto Lava

        I’m citing the same “source” as you
        1 the pit bull was on the loose
        2 the man had already called animal control on the dog before
        3 the animal control said he’d be justified in shooting the dog if it posed any threat to him
        4 the other neighbors called the irresponsible owner to tell her the pit bull was on the loose
        5 the dog was in fact in the guys yard
        6 the guy says the dog charged him
        7 the guy shoots the dog

        What’s not fact is he was “huntin’ for dogs” or the picture took was a “trophy”

      • Molto Lava

        8 the man does not have to wait to be bitten to shoot the dog.
        9 where the dog was shot means NOTHING, A dog is low to the ground does not attack standing on its hind legs.
        A dog is not a human. If a human attacked then it would matter if he was shot in the back

      • footnotegirl

        So a dog can somehow attack while facing away from a target? They can somehow back into an attack? Is that what you’re positing?

      • Molto Lava

        Retard , the dog is low to the ground A man is standing .
        When a man shoots a dog, he points the firearm DOWN

        Thus the bullet can hit anywhere on the dog.
        OKay, you can’t really be this stupid, you have to be pulling my leg.

      • footnotegirl

        According to both articles, for the wound to be where it was, the dog would have had to have been facing AWAY. Either sidewise or with its back to the guy. And once again, you only waste energy with the personal invective, and it certainly doesn’t help your argument.

      • Molto Lava

        Again, the dog does not have to be facing away to be shot in the back
        Try imagining this in your tiny mind, The dog is on all fours , the man is standing , The man is not shooting straight across , he is shooting down at an angle .
        The “articles” have nothing to do with any official report.
        This “article” is just written by some whacko in NYC

        And the other one is based on the petition written by a person not directly involved

      • Iwill Findu

        The dog wasn’t shot in the back it was shot in the side. Really there is a difference.

      • Molto Lava

        Again, the dog does not have to be facing away to be shot in the back
        Try imagining this in your tiny mind, The dog is on all fours , the man is standing , The man is not shooting straight across , he is shooting down at an angle .
        The “articles” have nothing to do with any official report.
        This “article” is just written by some whacko in NYC

        And the other one is based on the petition written by a person not directly involved

      • Iwill Findu

        You can bend bullets now? because the last time I shot a gun all the bullets when straight, even pointing a gun down at the ground they would still end up more or less in the face or back of a charging dog not it’s side. Unless the dog did what a crazy sideways charge.

      • footnotegirl

        You stated more than once that other neighbors said that the dog was ‘aggressive and on the loose’. I noticed you have dropped that claim now?
        There is no corroboration to his report he was being charged, and the wounds the dog got are not wounds that he would have received had the dog been charging. He stated he would kill the dog (and brag about it!) before it posed any threat to him whatsoever. Hint: a dog can’t charge you when you’re in the house and it is outside.
        Animal control didn’t say “you can shoot the dog if it’s on your property” you claim they said “you can shoot the dog if it poses a threat”. Guess what, crossing your property outside while you are inside the house is zero threat. Also, there is nothing in either of these articles that states that animal control said any such thing in the first place.

      • Molto Lava

        Again the man himself called animal control on the same dog in the past. That is in your “source” They mans says they told he could . That is what MY animal control people tell me and every animal control person tells everyone.
        The other neighbor called the irresponsible dog owner to tell her that the pit bull was on the loose again
        The dog was in fact in the man’s yard.
        There is no need to allow the dog to bite before the man shoots the dog.
        Thinking otherwise is only you and other mental midgets.

        Everyone else knows the dog can then be put down at will.

      • footnotegirl

        Just went over both the article above and the one it links to, word for word, very slowly. There’s no report of him having contacted Animal Control before this in those articles. Please cite your source for this.

        You stated very clearly..oh wait, let me pull your quote! “The other neighbor called the dog owner to tell her it was on the loose and aggressive”

        There is no such statement anywhere, and you seem to be backpedaling on this now?

        Also this “All the facts support his statement ,including other neighbors who in fact complained to the woman that her vicious dog was on the loose.”

        There’s no statement from anyone that this dog was ever vicious, and both articles say that the person who called Ince to tell her that the dog was loose was a relative (probably the one she had watching him), not a neighbor.
        So not a single outside fact other than the dog was on his property, corroborates his being in danger. He was in the house when he first saw the dog and said he would kill it (in no danger) the dog was not facing him when it was shot (in no danger), and according to the reports, dog has no history of biting anyone (in no danger).

      • Molto Lava

        Look closer .

        He says in on his Facebook post.

        I was wrong,tho His conversation with animal control wasn’t in the past, It was for that incident

        He called animal control FIRST to ask them what to do. That is why he went into the house.

        The other posting is just a petition by a crack head who is the “cousin” of the irresponsible dog owner.

        It’s not a police report, it’s not evidence. It’s not in written with first hand knowledge of the incident.

      • footnotegirl

        So animal control never came out.
        He didn’t wait for animal control to come out (even though he and his family were safely in the house).
        So it looks like the claims are it went like this:
        1) see’s dog in yard. While safely in the house, states that he is going to kill it simply for crossing his yard.
        2) Calls animal control (or says he does) and is told that if it’s a threat, he can shoot it, or possibly, from his mangled English it’s hard to tell, performs step 3 and then calls animal control.
        3) Goes outside (i.e. enters a dangerous situation? Maybe? intentionally). Claims dog behaves aggressively. Shoots dog in such a way that does not corroborate aggressive behavior (i.e. shoots the dog from either the side or from behind).
        4) takes trophy picture of dog and posts it on social media.

        No reports of the dog being vicious or aggressive to him or anyone else in the past.

      • Molto Lava

        Sorry , but you do NOT have to be trapped in your house with a vicious dog in your yard.

        It doesnt matter if they were all in the house. The guy does not need alternative ways to deal with the dog

        He did what any animal control would tell someone to do. The same thing any cop would do.

        It does not matter if there was no reports of the dog being vicious in the past. 1 there is always the first time
        2 dogs are always more vicious with strangers.

      • Molto Lava

        Sorry , but you do NOT have to be trapped in your house with a vicious dog in your yard.

        It doesnt matter if they were all in the house. The guy does not need alternative ways to deal with the dog

        He did what any animal control would tell someone to do. The same thing any cop would do.

        It does not matter if there was no reports of the dog being vicious in the past. 1 there is always the first time
        2 dogs are always more vicious with strangers.

      • gothicgaelicgirl

        *The man says they told him he could

      • Iwill Findu

        6 the guy “says” the dog charged him. forgive us for not taking the word of a criminal.

      • gothicgaelicgirl

        *Nonsense
        *You are not a lawyer
        *You are not a CSI person (By the way, they’re called Forensic Investigators)

      • Iwill Findu

        We don’t believe him because we don’t take criminals words as the gods honest truth? But you go right ahead.

      • msLiz506

        It’s quite funny how you keep making obvious spelling errors while repeatedly referring to everyone else as stupid. And what is with this “white trash” obsession?

      • Molto Lava

        What spelling errors , moron?

        That notion is something you created in your mind from your imagination.

      • footnotegirl

        You haven’t mentioned them, you’ve made them.

      • Molto Lava

        What are they ?

        You think that an attacking dog can not be shot in the side
        This is based on what?
        Because a human attacker charges standing up and facing you?

        Yeah it would make sense if the attacker was human. not a dog.

      • footnotegirl

        You typed preformed rather than performed.

      • gothicgaelicgirl

        *Performed
        *In your

        That entire last sentence makes no sense.

    • Personal

      Many, many years ago my dad shot a dog. We lived right on the edge of a forest and our next-door neighbors had brought in goats to eat back at the kudzu growing there. They had chained the mother goat and the kid was free to wander. At 5 a.m. I got up to take a shower and heard some barking and went out to look and there was a pack of wild (obviously formerly domesticated and abandoned as they were a recognizable varity of mixed breed) dogs in a pack attacking the mother goat. I called my dad and he came out and shot into the air. All of the dogs except one ran away, but that one attacked the goat again. So my dad shot it.
      He hated having to do it and blamed the people who don’t sterilize their pets. He called out local sheriff, who told him that it was, in fact, against the law to fire a gun within the town limits (which we were in) and to bury the dog and not tell anyone.
      We were all pretty sad about it.
      My dad was a great guy. This guy in the article, on the other hand, is an asswipe.
      PS The mama goat was badly hurt but survived with medical help.

    • Jesus Christ

      ok, so how much life-threatening and fatal damage could a puppy do to a grown man that cause him to shoot it. His self defense claim is illogical. That’s like trying to defend yourself in a domestic-abuse court case saying “well, i said i was sorry”

      • Molto Lava

        It wasn’t a puppy . Jesus Christ Almighty , go look at the damn picture

      • Iwill Findu

        The dog was under a year old puppy hood wasn’t based on size the last time I checked.

      • gothicgaelicgirl

        If you claim size equals age, how would that apply to a St. Bernard pup?
        Or a small terrier pup?

        My dogs are Springer spaniels, are tiny and are 11 years old.

        So how does size = age?

    • Fart Simpson

      If he loves guns so much, he should wear one up his a$$ at all times.

    • Robotic Socks

      This is why you need a moat

      • Paul White

        can I fill it with alligators?

      • Iwill Findu

        no you need sharks with laser-beams on their heads.

    • Jennifer Freeman

      I have come to the conclusion that our special visitor today is either a) the guy who shot the dog or b) someone who knows him. Our visitor is entirely too emotional about something that would have no effect on his life if he weren’t directly involved.

      • Molto Lava

        It’s called sanity
        The man in this story is no different than the man in the link you posted on the other story. Both have been vilified by the same crazies for protecting human life
        The man in today’s story has three small children of his own , all home on spring break.
        “Our visitor is entirely too emotional about something that would have no effect on his life if he weren’t directly involved”

        That the poster of this insane article and YOU. The man in the story has nothing to do with YOU or the nut job Frances Locke.
        The difference is I’m no vilifying an innocent man and you are. And you are doing it despite the even an different neighbor reported the vicious dog on the loose prior to it’s encounter with the man.

      • Jennifer Freeman

        There is a huge difference. In the first story, the children were bring mauled by the dog. In the second, the children were not in the yard and no one was mauled at all. Surely you see the difference?

      • Molto Lava

        There is no difference Ms Turner. The man has just as much right not to be mauled and/or stop a mauling BEFORE it happens. as anyone does after it begins.

        Stop vilifying this man. He’s not evil because he killed a pit bull charging him in his yard.

      • Iwill Findu

        So by stopping a mauling before it happens by killing an animal by that logic should be stop rape by castrating all men, because if you have a penis you could rape a woman?

    • Jennifer Freeman

      Just so our special guest doesn’t think I’m totally in denial about the need to sometimes use violence to save lives, here is an example of what I consider an unfortunate but totally justified shooting: http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/gun-charge-dropped-against-dc-man-who-shot-pit-bull-attacking-child/2013/07/23/c9f6e6f6-f2e4-11e2-bdae-0d1f78989e8a_story.html

    • Guest

      I’ve read all the post here.
      I have never seen such low minded, unintelligent , and warped ramblings in one place before.
      It’s as if you all live in an alternative reality where up is down , bad is good, and protecting your own life is somehow injustice.
      Snap out of your shared delusions .

      • TngldBlue

        You read my mind, that Molto Lava person sure is deluded and could use a trip back to the first grade.

      • footnotegirl

        Except there’s no evidence he was protecting his life or any other life. He was inside the house when he stated he was going to kill the dog. What damage was the dog going to do to him inside his house?
        Also, it sounds from the articles on this subject that the wounds to the dog were not the sort of wounds the dog would have received if he had been facing towards the shooter at all. In other words, he was not being aggressive towards the shooter when shot.
        There are no reports of this dog having any history of violence.

      • Molto Lava

        He went into the house to call animal control That is what his Facebook posting said
        It also says animal control gave him instructions on what he can do.
        The dog does not need priors
        Every dog that is violent has a first time.
        Attacked or not the man has a right to shoot the dog in his yard.
        But he says he was attacked and all evidence points to that. nothing to suggest the opposite
        My dog loves small children, but when someone comes near the fence he goes nuts.
        Dogs have instincts, the dog in this story followed his instincts and the man did the right thing by stopping it.

      • Iwill Findu

        So we’re taking the world of a criminal now?

      • gothicgaelicgirl

        Because if it was on Facebook, it MUST be true!

    • tk88

      People think it’s ok to shoot any dog that “looks like” a Pit Bull, regardless if the dog is a Pit Bull, or if it’s aggressive. It’s sad and wrong that so many people are able to get away with slaughtering people’s pets just because they feel like it. He was just lost. And to all you people going on and on about how “vicious” he must have been because he was a Pit Bull, well really, you’re just as good at this guy aren’t you? Anyone who knows a great deal about dogs knows that while Pit Bulls have a horrible reputation, most of them are good dogs. Not only that, but most people don’t truly even know what a “Pit Bull” is, and call any dog that “looks like” one a Pit Bull, so statistics are more than skewed. They have, in fact statistically scored better than “nice” breeds like Golden Retrievers, Beagles and Cocker Spaniels on temperament tests. You don’t hear people running to the papers when Dalmatians and Labs attack, only “Pit Bulls”. Want to hear a true statistic? Pit Bulls are the #1 breed abused, and #1 breed put down in animals shelters for space.

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    • John Sky Dillinger

      boo hoo keep your pets under control and off peoples property i have shot 7 dogs and 3 cats this year alone there is a leash law and a dont sh*t in my yard law and if one of you whiny peta people show up ill shoot you to is there a pic of the little girl crying i want to see that