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Kristin Cavallari Is Totally Pumped About Her Decision Not To Vaccinate Her Child Against Deadly Diseases

Watch What Happens Live - Season 11Kristin Cavallari got a lot of press last week for coming out as an anti-vaxxer. She’s totally unaffected by it. She still stands behind her horrible decision to leave her kids unvaccinated against deadly diseases that will certainly make a comeback if more parents like her continue to chip away at herd immunity by refusing to vaccinate their children.

She told Andy Cohen on Watch What Happens Live:

“At the end of the day, I’m just a mom. I’m trying to make the best decision for my kid. There are very scary statistics out there regarding what is in vaccines… and what they cause. Asthma, allergies, ear infections, all kinds of things. We feel like we’re making the best decision for our kids.”

Oh totally. Because ear infections are waaaay worse than measles. Or polio. Or Whooping cough. I could go on, but I won’t. She failed to mention the autism excuse she gave the first time she was asked about the issue:

“I understand both sides of it. I’ve ready too many books about autism and there’s some scary statistics out there. It’s our personal choice, and, you know, if you’re really concerned about your kid get them vaccinated.”

I have an idea – let’s stop asking celebrities who have no medical background whatsoever what they think about things as important as vaccines. She’s deciding she’d rather her child be exposed to deadly diseases than be exposed to the things she thinks are caused by vaccinations, like asthma and allergies. Okay.

This would be as good a time as any to address the “if your child is vaccinated, why do you care what other people do” question that so often comes up when we talk about a parent’s decision not to vaccinate. Most people still care about this because certain diseases can’t be vaccinated against until children are 12-months-old. It’s a danger for infants and those with compromised immune systems to be around those who are unvaccinated. Also, herd immunity is diminishing because of parents who are refusing to vaccinate their kids. Having a child who cannot be vaccinated because of medical reasons and choosing not to vaccinate a perfectly healthy child are two different things.

I have no medical background either, I just happen to believe in science. I have a hard time understanding people who use no logic or common sense. The autism link has been debunked numerous times. I have an innate distrust of pharmaceutical companies, too, but does anyone actually believe that almost every, single pediatrician out there is in the pocket of big pharma? That’s absurd.

When your right as a parent to make decisions for your child affects the health of others – it’s not longer a personal choice. It’s a public nuisance.

(photo: Getty Images)

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  • Andrea

    I said it before and I’ll say it again: people that refuse to have their children vaccinated should move to their own filthy island and stay away from civilized people. They were too stupid to reproduce, but did anyway and now are affecting the rest of us.
    *rage scream*

  • Sexy Robotic Arms Dealer

    Why do people ask celebrities about anything important? Most of them are idiots. Overwhelming majority never went to college. The few who did are mostly idiots (did I mention that?).

    Is there a STFU Celebrities? If not, Blair?

    Celebrities should stick to talking about entertainment, fashion, sports and food.

    Leave the important things to grown ups who grew up.

    • JLH1986

      Blair should totally get on the STFUCelebs.

    • Sexy Robotic Arms Dealer

      On second thought, STFUParents is brilliant because most parents aren’t stupid.

      We actually have a STFUCelebs

      http://www.tmz.com

    • Tinyfaeri

      We should stop reading articles where people ask them about stuff other than acting. Because they hear enough questions about, say, parenting, and they start to think that they really have some Important Things to Say on the topic, and then they start a stupid website to broadcast their opinions preemptively. It’s not entirely their fault – people made them think we care, so now we need to show them we really don’t, we just like watching them in movies or laugh-cringing at them on reality TV.

  • rrlo

    Why would ear infections be caused by vaccines? What kind of craziness is this? From what I was reading, herd immunity only works in when vaccination rates are 90%.

    • CrazyFor Kate

      And really, the vast majority of ear infections are absolutely nothing to worry about, so even if there was a link, who cares anyway? Ear infection < polio, diptheria, measles…

    • rrlo

      Maybe she is anti – antibiotics as well. Which would explain irrational fear of ear infections.

    • Williwaw

      I was vaccinated, not that I think it had anything to do with the more than a dozen ear infections I had as a kid. But even if it had, guess what? I lived, and my hearing (tested for my job) is better than average for my age.

    • Larkin

      I was vaccinated, and I have never had an ear infection in my entire life. But yeah, I’d much rather my kid get ear infections than measles.

    • shel

      Actually, two of the bacteria we vaccinate against in children are huge causers of Ear infections… so vaccines actually reduce risk of ear infections. Certainly it can’t stop them all, and we always have the anecdotal “I never did this and I never had a single ear infection” or the “I did this and had a million ear infections” But still… there are some nasty things we vaccinate against, beyond just the talked about MMR/ Polio…

    • MellyG

      I also don’t get how moms, some of them smart in theory, don’t get that ONE person’s experience doesn’t make something faulty. I am allergic to sulfur based meds. I have to be careful. But, should i suggest that sulfur based meds are evil and no one should ever use them? That would be ridiculous.

  • Tiffany

    I have a hard time thinking of her as anything other than that chick from Laguna Beach on MTV. Because of that, I also have a hard time believing that she’s read a lot of books on any subject.

    • Williwaw

      Maybe she can start with some board books before her baby arrives.

  • Beth

    What an idiot. And so incredibly selfish …. Here’s what I wrote in my blog just a couple of days ago, about this very topic:

    http://nothingandeverythingbeth.wordpress.com

    We have measles now in Ottawa for the first time in decades, all because of stupid anti-vaxxers who seem to think their personal freedom trumps everyone else’s health and safety.

  • Mystik Spiral

    “It’s terrible that the measles took little Johnny’s life, but at least he wasn’t allergic to peanuts…”

    • K.

      Add:

      “What a shame your grandmother succumbed to whooping cough, but aren’t my darling’s ear canals lovely and clear?”

    • MellyG

      This is what i don’t understand – clearly allergies and ear infections are better than measles and polio?

  • JustAGuest

    I’m not really sure why people distrust pharmaceutical companies more than any other company. I tend to figure that, yes, most companies are trying to make profits, so you have to keep an eye out for whether you think they’re doing something shady. But that’s true of car manufacturers too. No corporation is motivated solely by my personal well-being.

    • Tsabhira

      They don’t understand biology or medicine, and they fear what they don’t understand. Rather than study or learn or ask experts, they’ll delude themselves into thinking there’s some grand conspiracy and that they can exert control over it by opting out of if.

    • Williwaw

      Exactly – how can you pick and choose which giant company to distrust? There are zillions of products aimed at kids and babies, some useful, some useless, a few probably actually dangerous (like those stupid teething necklaces made of little bits of amber in the choking size range). Why not rip on Pampers, Graco, and whoever makes those dreadful “$5 footlong” onesies?

    • Katherine Handcock

      Thank you for mentioning the amber teething necklaces! At least in my area, there seems to be a weird correlation between people who think vaccines are dangerous and people who think those necklaces are the best thing ever.

    • MellyG

      Even non profits have an agenda, so to speak. it might not be profit, technically, but they have a desire to raise money. In fact, I think everyone in life has an agenda, and it doesn’t make them evil really. I mean, people i don’t like blindly trusting anything, but people that are like “oh it’s big pharma” or whatever are taking it too far

  • Rachel Sea

    You know how you can tell that vaccines aren’t bullshit? Because pharmaceutical companies want you to live. You will make them a fuckton of money if you live to be 120, so they want to do everything possible to make sure you live to be old, and that includes providing cheap or free vaccines to everyone.

    • KarenMS

      That’s always my argument. They would make so much more money if everyone’s really sick and needing expensive medications for the rest of their lives.

    • Rachel Sea

      But not the kind of sick that anti-vaxers claim is common. It’s best if we slowly accumulate the kind of chronic, though mild, illnesses and injuries that can be medicated so that we can live full lives in the private sector before retiring into a slow decline of complicated health conditions.

    • Andrea

      There is WAY more money to be made in treatment than in actual prevention/cure. Vaccinations are in fact, a money loser for “Big Pharma” (how I fucking hate that phrase). Not that they do not make money on them, but I am pretty sure a lifetime of iron lung treatments probably nets more money than a few shots.

    • shel

      Most medical practices lose tons and tons of money each year on vaccines, because we aren’t reimbursed as much as they cost… but we still push them, even though it would save money to not give them… because we actually care about healthy kids and not money… go figure!

    • Andrea

      I suspected that, but didn’t know.

    • Kelly

      Yeah, you can get vaccines for free or pretty damn close to free everywhere in the United States. I’ve never understood the anti-vaxer conspiracy theory that “Big Pharma” pushes vaccines for the monstrous profits. They don’t make shit off vaccines.

    • whiteroses

      I agree with you, Andrea.

      There certainly is money to be made if you don’t vaccinate your kid- by the funeral home that may have to bury him or her because of your sucky choices. They make coffins for kids and toddlers too, ya know?

    • Williwaw

      Excellent point, I had not thought of that, in spite of having recently seen a documentary that mentioned that some very large proportion of health care money goes to care for elderly patients in their last year. Yeah, Pharma must love it when you live long enough to get old.

    • Katherine Handcock

      This argument applies to the whole “big pharma doesn’t want to cure cancer” myth too. Yes they do! If big pharma cured cancer, not only would ever ad they made in the future say, “From Pharma X, THE COMPANY THAT CURED CANCER” but also they would be treating people for everything else for decades longer.

  • Metsy

    Reading anti-vaxx “logic” makes me want to bang my head against a brick wall. It’s all one giant conspiracy for them. Don’t they think it’s a big problem when most of their “evidence” comes from chiropractors? (No offense to you chiros out there, but all I go to you for is a glorified massage.)

    • Iwill Findu

      My chiropractor is all about the vaccines, he makes less money if all his clients die from preventable illnesses, they got spread around his office.

    • Marie

      If that’s all you’re getting, then your doc is doing it wrong.

    • Metsy

      To be honest, I haven’t been to one in nearly 20 years. All I remember was adjustments. Which, truth be told, felt good on my neck.

    • Larkin

      Yeah, I’ve never understood the whole chiropractors-replacing-doctors thing that seems to happen in a lot of the hardcore “crunchy” movements. I go to a chiropractor… when my back is messed up. Isn’t that what they’re for? I remember when I was first looking for a chiropractor that a friend advised me to make sure they didn’t claim they could prevent cancer or cure illnesses, because apparently some of them do. Mine pretty much just focuses on, y’know, back and joint pain.

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkgA2rUAY-o Booker

    Hollywood represents some of the dumbest people in America.

  • http://wtfihaveakid.blogspot.ca/ jendra_berri
    • rrlo

      Why did I click on this… you warned me.

    • rrlo

      OMG – Clean Water prevents water borne disease and is absolutely mandatory for reducing those types of disease. What does have to do with air borne diseases and those that transmit through direct contact? What a dummy!

    • http://wtfihaveakid.blogspot.ca/ jendra_berri

      Dying yet? I read way too much, expecting for the voices of reason to enter the fray. They never came.

    • rrlo

      I couldn’t read past the first few. It horribly depressed me.

    • Williwaw

      I think any voice of reason would be branded a troll given the antithought homogeneity of that site.

    • ChickenKira

      Best part about that is “I have been to developing countries = I am an expert on vaccinations”.

    • sara

      What you will never see on one of those forums: I’m an MD and don’t vaccinate’ guess why

    • MellyG

      These moms think that all MDs are evil though. They’re all just out for money and want to give kids things like allergies and autism. Doctors are not to be trusted, for some bizarre reason

    • shel

      Well, shoot… I must have missed the day in medical school where they taught us how to give kids allergies and autism…. dang it!! That sounds like a pretty useful skill.

    • MellyG

      You clearly missed the “be evil” course in med school! I think other professionals are more likely to trust experts….I’m a lawyer so i know my expertise is law, not medicine. So, i trust my doctor. I’m sure there are some bad eggs, but by and large the doctors i’ve encountered really DO want to help! Funny thought I know! For the same reasons, I trust that my accountant knows more about taxes than i do, and my hair dresser knows more about hair….funny how going to school can educate you. But nope, let’s listen to a playboy bunny and some study she read on google

    • whiteroses

      Yep. Most doctors don’t argue about the efficacy of vaccinations. It’s mainly laypeople with PhDs in Googlology. And then you have the inevitable “my pediatrician doesn’t believe in vaccinations and SHE SUPPORTS ME!”

      To that I say, “Sure she does. It costs more to treat a disease than it does to prevent it.”

    • K.

      Who the eff are these pediatricians? Seriously, WHO?? And where did they get their medical degrees?

      I mean, I get that they must exist out there, but part of me just can’t wrap my head around someone having a legitimate practice and “not believing in vaccines.” Sigh.

    • shorty_RN

      Ugh, I read about 3 of the comments and then rage-quit. Too. Many. Idiots.

    • K.

      Man, I can’t un-read that shit.

    • TngldBlue

      That drove me to drink.

    • Williwaw

      I have to stop visiting sites like that or I’ll have a rage-induced brain hemorrhage or something.

    • Larkin

      I got halfway through the first comment and had to stop. I just… I can’t…

    • scooby23

      *barf barf barf* *gag*

    • KarenMS

      Dead

  • Brutus

    We’re just now planning for a kid, and crazies like this are why I’m scared. I’m finishing up a PhD with no family in town, so daycare will be necessary. Do you get to ask day cares about things like vaccination? This is something I’m very serious about (being a rational human going to a university where we’ve just had a mumps outbreak), but I honestly don’t know what my rights would be as a parent. Advice?

    • Angelica

      My daycare has a vaccine policy. You can’t prove your child is up to date on vaccines? Find a different daycare. It is one of the reasons I chose it.

    • MellyG

      This makes me feel better. I have the same concerns as JustAGuest. Good to know that daycares have these policies

    • TngldBlue

      Ask. I asked every daycare we visited and it was an important part of why we choose the one we did-unvaccinated children are not accepted, period.

    • Andrea

      Please ASK. Most reputable ones have pretty strict vaccination policies.

    • Williwaw

      Here in Canada, all of the three day cars we have used require vaccinations – but I don’t know how consistent they are in asking for actual proof, so people could lie about it. If you can find an in-home caregiver you like and trust (someone who only cares for a couple of kids), that might be one solution, as it would be easier to check on each kid’s vaccination status, and they would not be exposed to dozens of kids each day (our current day care has more than 70 kids in multiple classrooms). Best of luck with having your kid (and finding a good day care)!

    • rrlo

      We had to show my son’s immunization records while enrolling him in daycare.

    • cabinfever

      I’ve never had a daycare ask for any kind of proof, unfortunately. But from now on, that’ll be non-negotiable.

  • ChickenKira

    One thing I’ve learned from reading one too many over the top ‘granola’ thoughts is that there are only two industries:
    1. Big Pharma
    2. Formula companies

    Big Pharma is one amazing conspiracy and every pharmaceutical company is part of it, none of them are competing against each other and any doctor that supports Big Pharma is getting kickbacks.

    Formula companies aren’t in competition either, they’re one big amazing entity set out to eradicate boobs.

    Nothing else is an industry. Not even those quacks selling “natural vaccines” in the form of gemstones or spinal alignments. They’re not an industry, yes they charge money, but they are doing it out of the goodness of their own hearts.

    • K.

      Agree!

      I’m not a lover of “big pharma” but I am a lover of George Orwell, and “big pharma” is a lovely example of corrupt language.

      Also, do these people even realize that America is just one country and there’s a pharmaceutical industry *gasp* outside of the United States? So then, it’s a WORLDWIDE conspiracy?? The WHOLE WORLD is conspiring to give your child autism and ear infections??

      Head meet desk.

  • Iwill Findu

    The problem with the anti-vaxxers is that it takes awhile to chip away at the herd immunity (that keep their children safe) so they don’t see the fallout of their actions right away so they hid their heads in the sand about the damage they are doing. Claiming they aren’t hurting anyone, so their movement picks up momentum because yeah these people must be right because no ones gotten sick from these illnesses even though they aren’t getting the vaccines. Now 10-15 yrs later enough wackados are following this movement that these deadly illnesses are making a comeback and they’re still keeping their heads in the sand unwilling to own up to their responsibly in all this.
    That’s what gets me these people are now actively making other people sick spreading these illnesses and yet they still won’t own up and admit they were wrong.

    • Alanna Jorgensen

      I was thrilled when I saw that my friend’s girlfriend went from anti vax to pro vax. Her explanation was “I was stupid. Now I’m not.” Hey, I’ll take it! Hopefully more will own up to their mistake.

  • K.

    Here’s my response to the whole, “if you like vaccines, then get them for your own child, but leave me and mine alone” argument:

    If you don’t believe in the herd immunity then I dare you to take your unvaccinated child to Angola, where 30 children die of measles EVERY DAY. Go ahead. See what happens.

    • Kelly

      I’ll buy her a fucking ticket. Let’s see her put her child’s life where her ignorant, uneducated mouth is.

    • Andrea

      But see, that’s part of their issue. They believe only dirty, poor, 3rd world type of people get those kind of diseases. They believe their organically fed yunike snohflayke would never get those diseases.

    • K.

      Precisely!

      So I say, “Here, take this suitcase of organic kale and quinoa and all the Dasani you can drink and have a nice trip to Angola!”

    • Andrea

      But see, that’s part of their issue. They believe only dirty, poor, 3rd world type of people get those kind of diseases. They believe their organically fed yunike snohflayke would never get those diseases.

    • G.S.

      My response is, “Yeah, I hope you don’t have a young baby when your older one inevitably comes home with measles, or whooping cough, or something deadly.”

    • G.S.

      My response is, “Yeah, I hope you don’t have a young baby when your older one inevitably comes home with measles, or whooping cough, or something deadly.”

  • Lackadaisical

    The thing about MMR is that in a healthy child mumps is important for boys because of a nasty potential complication, measles can be very nasty if caught by a small child, but rubella is one you do for all the pregnant ladies out there. As horrible as rubella is in the young it is truly awful for the not yet born, especially the ones who are so early that no-one knows they are there so no-one knows to be extra vigilent about it. I had my kids get the MMR partly because I didn’t want to cause immense pain to another family.

    I agree that it is probably time to stop asking celebrities with no medical background about vaccinations. We don’t ask them to make statements advising our nations leaders … OK, some cebrities who are very politically minded we might but our nations leaders aren’t about to change major policies about it unless the celebrity has a huge amount of public opinion behind them. Yes, some celebrities are smart but some make my dopey mutt look intellectual. Encouraging them to tell us how to raise our kids, or even interrogating them on their own parenting in the hopes of a juicy controversial opinion on parenting, just seems a bit daft. I would rather listen to my doctor, who is supposed to understan medicine, than someone whose job is to look pretty or say other peoples words in front of a camera.

  • Alicia Kiner

    I often wonder if these children will live to regret the decisions their parents make. Even assuming they don’t catch preventable diseases, will this cause other hardships for them later. I know someone who wasn’t circumcised until adulthood and wished his parents had done it while he was a newborn so we wouldn’t remember all of it for the rest of his life.

    • cabinfever

      I’m not sure, but they could probably opt into most of the vaccines later? I’ve had the MMR vaccine twice in my 30s (because my system refuses to build an immunity, ugh!), so better late than never?

    • Alicia Kiner

      It seems unlikely that they couldn’t, but I was thinking will they encounter things they can’t do because they aren’t vaccinated. Missions trips, studying abroad, etc.

    • Andrea

      I company I worked for back in the lat 90s made us take boosters before traveling anywhere abroad. They were a huge manufacturing company and they had a clinic on campus with an actual MD and nurses. My health insurance (for just me) cost $3 a paycheck. It was fucking glorious.

    • Kelly

      My MIL refused to vaccinate her two youngest sons. I married her eldest son. When she decided she was tired of being a mom, we took in the youngest who was 13 at the time. I took him down to the health department and told them he had never had any vaccinations (not even for polio.) They handed him a stack a pamphlets telling him about all the diseases he wasn’t protected against and what they could do to him.

      He got halfway down the first page and saw “painfully swollen testicles” and said, “I want the vaccinations, all of them.” It took three trips to get all the shots but he’s fully protected now.

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  • SassR

    She is basically a massive dick.

  • scooby23

    Future trashy gossip mag cover “Celeb Trend Watch: Kids Dying of Preventable Diseases so they Don’t Have to Carry around an Inhaler.”

  • Kelly

    She can go fuck herself. I’m so done with the casual insults about autistic people. Fuck her.

    I hope not vaccinating her children blows up in her bitch face. You’d rather your kids be dead than like mine? Well, good luck with that. Hope it’s a nice funeral cunt.

    • candlesoffate .

      fuck you. i don’t care what she says but to hope it blows up in her face?? you’d wish that on children who have nothing to do with their mother’s poor choices? here’s my middle finger, bitch

    • whiteroses

      To be honest- if her kid killed mine because they weren’t vaccinated? I wouldn’t really care.

    • Guest

      Amen. If it comes down to children dying I’d MUCH rather the kids of the idiots die as opposed to the parents who did their job and tried to protect their kids (and other kids) as best they could. It sucks for her kids that she is their mother but no way to change that.

    • Guest

      Shove that middle finger up your ass, cunt.

    • Kelly

      Fuck you right back. I do hope it blows up in her face. It’s going to blow up in somebody’s face and a whole shit ton of children are going to die.

      That’s not my fault. I’m vaccinated and I vaccinated my children. When kids start dropping dead like flies, kindly point your middle finger at the people who caused it bitch. Just a hint, that’s not me.

  • JJ

    Why are healthy people who grew up with vaccines now denying their own children the right to get vaccinated? Seriously though its like hey I had this good life with very few health problems but f*** my kids they will not be getting vaccinated lets just see how it turns out for them. I could maybe get it if you grew without vaccinations yourself and are a true natural hippie type but to have grown up with vaccinations and a life free of measles, mumps, polio and more and then turn around to tell your kids to bad no vaccines for you buddy. Seems quite cruel if you ask me.

  • Cricket

    Ugh. I dislike these fools so much. My daughter went through two years of cancer treatment, and when we brought her to the ER – which was often – I had to wonder how many of the kids she came in contact with were unvaxed and putting her at risk. Next time I hear, “your kids are vaccinated, what are you worried about?” I’m gonna have to hurt somebody.

  • whiteroses

    A few weeks ago, my son had a rash that looked a lot like measles. It wasn’t (turned out to be an allergic reaction to medication he was taking for an ear infection), and we knew that because he’s been vaccinated against measles. Since my son’s vaccines are up to date, his doctors ruled out a lot of potentially deadly diseases/viruses and treated him right away without having to do a lot of unnecessary testing.

    Once they get sick, it’s too late to prevent something that a simple vaccine would have solved. It seems like a no-brainer, no?

  • March

    Obviously, people like this are swayed by “scary statistics”. So the thing that we must do, is put as many scary statistics as possible out there that prove all the deadly evil creepy shit that happens if you do not vaccinate. The pro-vac is just going to have to out-scary the anti-vac, if this is how people work.

  • airbones

    My grandfather, who loved me very much, was my pediatrician and vaccinated me and my daughter’s pediatrician vaccinated her own kids (whom she presumably loves very much). If vaccines are safe enough and important enough for those two very highly educated people to vaccinate their loved ones, you better believe I’m vaccinating my child.

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