• Sun, Apr 7 2013

Rick Ross ‘Apologizes’ For Rape Lyric By Not Apologizing At All

6cec5af1193a75f44b876712bf81c043Rape is everywhere and anyone with a conscience is tired of hearing about it. Something has got to give. From a high school party in Steubenville to a bus in India - it has been widely publicized that rape is a scourge on every woman’s existence. So excuse us, Rick Ross, for getting pissed off and “misinterpreting” your lyrics. Only, we haven’t misinterpreted them. Rick Ross brags about rape in his song You Don’t Even Know It. Period. And he’s not apologizing for it.

Then again, I guess he doesn’t really have to apologize for it. He certainly hasn’t been taken to task. His endorsement deal from Reebok hasn’t suffered one bit. There has been no indication from the company that they intend to pull the endorsement deal from the rapper who brags about rape. Great Reebok. So he endorses Reebok and rape. Why am I not surprised that the brilliant minds behind these ads have no problem with that?

On Friday, a group of protesters from the women’s rights group Ultra Violet attempted to deliver a petition against Ross’ endorsement deal with Reebok to Manhattan’s Reebok Fitness Hub on Fifth Avenue. It had 72,000 signatures on it. The woman trying to deliver the petition was stopped by security and not let in the door. From New York Magazine: When Fashionista spoke with UltraViolet’s co-founder Nita Chaudhary on Thursday morning, she said Reebok hadn’t been in touch with her, and writes WWD, which covered the protest, the petition was never delivered.

The lyrics in question are from Ross’ song “You Ain’t Even Know It” or “U.O.E.N.O.” Yeah, I know – that acronym makes zero sense. In the second verse, Ross raps:

That n*gga sold you that re-rock, you ain’t even know it/
I die over these Reeboks, you ain’t even know it/
Put Molly all in her Champagne, she ain’t even know it/
I took her home and I enjoyed that, she ain’t even know it

“Molly” is the street term for MDMA, also commonly known as Ecstasy. So the Reebok and rape reference are in the same verse. Great. HuffPost reports on the transcript of the radio interview in which Ross “apologizes”:

“Woman is the most precious gift known to man,” he said. “And there was a misunderstanding with a lyric…a misinterpretation where the term rape was–wasn’t used. I would never use the term rape, you know, in my lyrics. And as far as my camp, hip hop don’t condone that, the streets don’t condone that, nobody condones that.”

“I feel like us being artists that’s our job,” he said. “To clarify the sensitive things and the things that we know that really need to be clarified such as a situation as this.”

So what does it mean then, Ross? Do you actually believe that since you didn’t use the word “rape” everything is okay? Maybe you are unaware that drugging a woman into unconsciousness and having sex with her is “rape.” Well – it is. We’re not “interpreting” your lyrics wrong. You’re just a moron. And possibly a rapist if you’ve actually done what you say you have in your song.

Reebok – you are a huge disappointment to women everywhere. And Ross – read a dictionary. Start with the word “rape” and then backtrack to the word “apology.”

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  • Blooming_Babies

    The song is offensive, the lyric is about drugging a girl then having sex with her, something that could easily be argued to be rape. The lyric is not about having sex with an unconscious girl. The artist sees nothing wrong with what the song implies of course he’s not going to apologize. On top of that a group of people shrieking about how these lyrics are about raping an unconscious woman does not help, you must educate yourself before you can educate others. Right now, by insisting that the lyric means something it clearly does not, you are making it look like you have no clue and no business speaking up.

    • Tinyfaeri

      So, drugging a woman (whether she is unconscious at the end of it or no, she’s still out of it and not fully able to give consent) could be considered rape, but it isn’t, we need to educate ourselves on…something, but it really isn’t rape, so we should shut up. Did I get that right-ish?
      It doesn’t actually matter if she’s unconscious. If you get a woman drunk or rolling on E (by slipping it into her drink when she’s not looking, no less) so that she isn’t in her right mind and won’t remember what happened later, she can’t consent to have sex. If she can’t give proper consent, or be able to say, sober, that she wants to have sex with you tonight, it’s rape. Bragging about how she won’t remember that you hit that is bragging about rape, regardless of whether you say the word rape or not. Talk about a need to educate yourself.

    • Blooming_Babies

      Yes rape is subjective and educating your audience is difficult. Sorry if you misread but I’m taking about reaching out to an audience that matters, it’s incredibly important. If any blogger was misrepresenting a political speech or a “mommy law” it would be a problem for most commenters here. Misreading these lyrics is a lost chance to educate the audience on what actually constitutes rape.

    • whiteroses

      “Rape is subjective”? Honestly, what planet are you living on?

      Consensual= both parties can say that they want to have sex without slurring their words or throwing up on themselves. They do it sober. Hopefully, they both enjoy it.

      Nonconsensual= one or both parties cannot consent. They are either drugged or drunk. One of them (irrespective of gender) says no, and they’re forced. All of these are valid definitions of rape.

      If you’re not stone cold sober, you can’t consent. Rape is not subjective. It has absolutely no gray area.

    • Tinyfaeri

      Ditto. :)

    • http://www.facebook.com/valerisexton.jones Valeri Jones

      “Rape is subjective.”
      This is exactly the kind of thinking that causes such controversy over cases like Steubenville and things. People think there’s a lot of gray areas when it comes to rape. There’s really not.

    • Jones

      Oh okay. So if two people WILLINGLY go out and get drunk and then decide to WILLINGLY have sex with each other, they have just raped each other, because, following your logic, nobody can consent unless they are 100% sober. Right.. Ok then. Better tell EVERYBODY that goes clubbing then that they can’t ‘pick-up’ cos that would make them rapists and rapees simultaneously.

    • whiteroses

      First of all, “rapees” isn’t a word. And using “simultaneously” in the next sentence doesn’t make you sound any smarter. If you’re going to educate the public on how forcible sex is ok, you should probably get the terminology right. They’re called “victims” or “survivors”.

      Second of all, my son was concieved under quite a large amount of both vodka and tequila. But my husband (my fiance at the time) and I had had sex quite a few times before, and I was still sober enough to say that yes, I wanted to have sex. If I had been too drunk to consent, he never would have proceeded. And that’s how it should be.

    • crankylex

      Drugging someone without their knowledge (“Put Molly all in her Champagne, she ain’t even know it”) and then having sex with them (“I took her home and I enjoyed that, she ain’t even know it”) is rape. There is nothing subjective about that. What is wrong with you???

    • http://twitter.com/mariaguido Guerrilla Mom

      “I took her home and I enjoyed that, she ain’t even know it”
      Um, okay.

    • Blooming_Babies

      Um yes Molly, MDMA, extacy does not render a person unconscious. You sound like some daft asshat to anyone who would take your message to heart. Again you don’t have to like facts but it doesn’t change them.

    • http://twitter.com/mariaguido Guerrilla Mom

      Oh. Excuse me. So you’re arguing that the lyric is saying that she was too high to realize she was having sex, not that she was unconscious? Mixing MDMA with alcohol can absolutely render a person unconscious – which is EXACTLY what the lyric is saying since he is slipping it in her champagne – but I can’t even believe I am even having this argument. Before you decide to call a person an “asshat” maybe you should look in the mirror and ask yourself why you are taking up the role of “rape lyric apoligist” for the day.

    • Tinyfaeri

      MDMA use (even when done knowingly) greatly reduces inhibitions and is about the opposite of sober, even without the use of alcohol. Slipping it into her drink without her knowing it means she didn’t even consent to the use of drugs, nevermind the sex that followed – as pointed out by the lyrics. That’s rape AND drugging someone without their knowledge with an illegal substance which adds a whole new layer to the existing felony. Define “asshat” for me.

    • whiteroses

      You do realize, also, that giving someone drugs against their will is also illegal?

    • Makabit

      So if she’s on MDMA, but conscious and able to consent, how is it that she ‘ain’t even know it’? Please, educate me, so I won’t sound like a daft asshat.

    • Blueathena623

      I don’t understand what you are saying. The speaker of the lyric is outing extract is a woman’s drink, without her knowledge, and then taking her home and having sex, without her knowledge. How is that not rape?

    • Blooming_Babies

      Right I said that IS rape but when you sceam about something aka the rape of an unconscious girl that lyrics ARE NOT about you make yourself look foolish to those who need educated and discredit yourself as an educator. You don’t have to like it but that doesn’t make it less true.

    • whiteroses

      How is he not bragging about raping an unconscious girl?
      He is. YOU may not like that, but it doesn’t make it less true.

    • Jones

      just because drinking and taking x CAN make you unconscious, doesn’t mean it WILL. No where in those lyrics does he say anything about raping an unconscious girl. What he is rapping about is morally questionable (and a crime), but he isn’t bragging about doing what you are saying.
      Why don’t you step off? There’s a million other rappers or artists that you could be accusing, you know, ones who ACTUALLY are rapping about raping.. but you’re picking some dude who’s words you have utterly misinterpreted.

    • aoti

      You’re forgetting the whole “she ain’t even know it” part of the song.

    • whiteroses

      I do protest lyrics like that. Hell, I protest the fact that I live in a culture where, apparently, idiots get to crawl out of the woodwork and tell me to “step off” when I protest stuff like this. Please, please shut up. Your ignorance is showing.

    • Blueathena623

      How can one have sex without knowing it if they are not unconscious?

    • Makabit

      You seriously want people to ‘educate themselves’ about Rick Ross lyrics?

      OK, explain this, how does ‘taking her home and enjoying that’ when she ‘doesn’t even know it’ possibly translate in your mind to anything but intercourse with an unconscious woman…otherwise known as rape?

  • http://www.facebook.com/valerisexton.jones Valeri Jones

    And this, friends, is exactly why I don’t listen to hip hop or rap anymore now that I have children. The sad truth is, Rick Ross isn’t the first rapper to talk about stuff like this. And he’s definitely not the first (or the last) to degrade women. It’s a completely different culture which, a lot of times, is similar to something you see on the Nat Geo’s series Lockdown.

    I’m not saying it’s bad music. I still have appreciation for a lot of the artists. But this is not something I will bring into my children’s lives, for fear they will take influence from it, as a lot of kids do.

    • http://www.xojane.com/author/eve Eve Vawter

      ‘Dem dere’s fightin’ words. One of my kids listens to rap and hip hop exclusively. I would be happy to turn you on to some truly brilliant stuff that is smart, empowering, and totally badass. The rap my kid listens to could not be better for him as far as role models go.

    • http://twitter.com/KatyWelte Katy Welte

      Actually, I would love some recommendations if you have a minute!

    • http://twitter.com/mariaguido Guerrilla Mom

      I’ll weigh in. Talib Kweli. Common. Jean Grae. KRS-One. Dead Prez. Mos Def – to name a few…

    • http://www.xojane.com/author/eve Eve Vawter

      Bone thugs N harmony , Lupe Fiasco, a tribe called quest, Kid Cudi , mf doom , Aesop Rock and a lot of wu-tang ( but not all!)

    • http://www.xojane.com/author/eve Eve Vawter

      I mentioned this to my son and he said OH YOU MEAN THE SONG ABOUT DRUGGING AND RAPING A GIRL? so he even know of it, haha

    • Simone

      Tribe called Quest

      Most of the Beastie Boys

      Queen Latifah, huge feminist, classic hip hop.

      Thanks for this article raising awareness of rape culture, it will only be addressed through constant agitation like this.

    • whiteroses

      Also, if you’re Christian, Lecrae is awesome.

    • http://www.facebook.com/valerisexton.jones Valeri Jones

      Of course, you are right, Eve. But when I think of rap, I think of the stuff I used to listen to, which is like Lil Wayne, Eminem, Rick Ross (I know, I know), and so on and so forth. THOSE are the things I don’t want my kids listening to.

    • http://www.xojane.com/author/eve Eve Vawter

      Yeah, there is a lot of really good stuff out there. I am awful because I listen to BAD stuff myself (NWA, N.E.R.D, Murs) that I don’t want my own kids listening to, haha

  • http://Mommyish.com/ Amanda Low

    “And Ross – read a dictionary. Start with the word “rape” and then backtrack to the word “apology.”

    BOOM! Drop the mic. Love it!

  • Jones

    um, ok. have you even tried MDMA? It sure as hell don’t make you unconscious. It makes you HORNAY!!! So I don’t believe he was referring to raping a woman. Drugging her, yes. But raping, no.

    • http://twitter.com/mariaguido Guerrilla Mom

      Drugging a woman and having sex with her without her knowledge IS rape.

    • Tinyfaeri

      All I can think is “Why is this so confusing for people?!?!”

    • whiteroses

      Good question.

    • http://twitter.com/mariaguido Guerrilla Mom

      I really have no idea. It’s frightening.

    • Tinyfaeri

      Really. The fact that some of these people could end up on a jury is enough to keep a gal awake at night.

    • faifai

      This is what is known as date rape. Date rape does not necessarily involve making a woman unconscious. You idiot.

    • whiteroses

      And drugging a woman is okay with you? I’m sorry, your opinion is officially invalid.

  • Janelle

    You are accusing rick ross of doing something he has not done. You are only hurting a woman’s cause by doing this and making yourself look hysterical to boot. If women go around accusing every man and his dog of promoting rape, especially when he is not, nobody will listen when there is an actual case of rape promotion. Remember the little boy who cried wolf? that is what you are doing.

    • whiteroses

      You’ve heard the song, yes? Why is “she aint even know it” not troubling to you?

      Look, it’s not crying wolf when it’s an attempt to change our culture, to change the way people view this crap. And that’s what it is.

    • http://twitter.com/mariaguido Guerrilla Mom

      And this proves that we are so deeply immersed in and accepting of rape culture that even when someone raps about drugging a woman and having sex with her without her knowledge – people like you think it’s no big deal. I’m going to go bang my head against a wall now.

    • Makabit

      I have no reason to think that Rick Ross’s dog promotes rape. However, that lyric sure as hell does.

  • http://www.facebook.com/eryn.stilp Eryn Stilp

    I listen to heavy metal songs where they sing about killing babies and hail satan and all that. if the song is good, I will enjoy it. You have the right to sing about whatever the hell you want. It’s MUSIC. There are worse songs than this out there- in myopinion, the article’s author had a serious overreaction. sorry.

    • faifai

      1) “Heavy” metal? Honey, that term hasn’t been used since the 80s and refers to those old hair bands. Waddya got now, black metal? Death metal? Operatic metal? Screamo? You can’t be that much into it if you don’t even know what it’s properly called.
      2) All this overuse of the concept of rape in all its permutations is and will cause society to become inured to it. We keep talking about it in our music and our tv (see the current mommyish article on Mad Men) and it won’t even matter anymore. And rape SHOULD matter. Some things are important. Some things need to stay important.

    • Erika Allen

      God, you sound like a cunt

    • Erika Allen

      I agree, you can’t censor. It might be sick but oh well. And I don’t see how the bitch below you got the idea you claimed you were heavily into death metal

  • crankylex

    What the hell is up with the rape apologists in this thread? In what universe is drugging a woman without her knowledge and then having sex with her NOT rape?

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  • A Concerned Party

    This is kind of funny to me. MDMA is not equatable to a date rape drug. It really never results in unconsciousness or an inability to say “no.” It think these lyrics in question may have very well been misunderstood. It seems to me that he would imply he drugged her to make her more sexually inclined, took her home and had relations with her both under consent, and that he enjoyed it more having causes her to be more arroused by drugging her without consent.

    Rape is wrong, and so is drugging somwone, but the former is just not the case here. Take some MDMA and then start pressing these ridiculous assertions.

    • whiteroses

      Drugging someone without their consent is illegal. And if someone can’t give consent (which you can’t do if you’re unconscious- and if you don’t know you’re having sex you’re most likely unconscious), it’s rape.

      See? I simplified it for you.

  • Fuckit

    Molly is not a rape drug you ingenious bastards

    • whiteroses

      Ingenious is not the word you’re looking for. Try again.